Systemic bias against Asian-Americans in schools

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Similar racists on this thread too.

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Anonymous wrote:The current FFX County school board was caught being openly hostile and racist against Asian students in work emails.

They never apologized for it either.

And it took a lawsuit against them to uncover their hostility and racism.

These same racists are still running the FCPS school system.

Sadly true.

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Anonymous wrote:Some also claim that TJ is biased against Asians even though they're the most well-represented demographic.

The rule changes caused a 20% drop in the number of Asians in the TJ freshman class, and it mirrors a nationwide movement to reduce the number of Asians in magnet schools. NYC, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Boston, and MCPS all did the same.

NYC is notable in that the Asians are poor, and the URMs there have other pathways to success. But they did it anyway.

At some point you take the hint.

The hint being that Asians are not allowed to have a majority.

Fixed it for you.

At TJ Asians are the majority.

But do Asians want to be the majority? It's harder to stand out that way.

Right, but how many people are happy about it? I’m sure quite a few people would lower the Asian numbers even more if they could. Give it several years. See if people start clamoring for more change.

I'm Asian, and all I want is to be around the best. I don't care what color or race they are. It just so happens that the best are Asian. I'll still make sure that I will stand out, because being around the best motivates me. My kid is the same.

The concept of their being a "best" in something as complex as academic and career achievement in a variety of social enterprises is where the disconnect is, I think.

This is exactly right. America has succeeded because of factors that are not as well understood by these immigrants. Even China's vaunted technological advances were based on a combination of their students receiving higher education in the U.S. and carrying back the technology or on plain espionage. Our system has always been more casual at the younger ages. However, there is now a real problem with education in this country, with lowered standards based on the quest for equity. Asian parents are less likely to put up with that, and that is good. But it doesn't make them "the best" and comments like this make others less excited to welcome them into the community.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you've described a school that selects URMs. That's not anti-AAPI bias.

Fwiw, there a number of AAPI students in FCPS of different backgrounds and some are high achieving and others are average. Don't have all the same concerns.

It is biased if the selection is not based on merit.

There are different types of merit when it comes to the opportunities you mention. If someone external wants to hear from students, they don’t just want to hear from top academic achievers. They want a range of experiences. If you want a student host/MC for an event, you want the most charismatic students and sometimes those are the B/C students. Sounds like the school isn’t exclusively selecting academic leaders, but applying criteria of the most suitable strengths for the positions they need to fill.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't it enough that your super duper Kumon devouring child gets good grades and test scores? Why do they also have to be recognized at an award ceremony and oh, by someone fluent in their language who can read their name properly????? Jesus, give me a break!

so, because they are super duper kumon devouring kids who get stellar grades and test scores they should not be recognized for their super duper studying? But instead, we should celebrate mediocrity of others and non academic achievements because all super duper kumon devouring children already get super duper test scores so why bother recognizing them publicly?

Jesus, give me a break, indeed.

Basically, that's exactly what I'm saying. This is exactly why these kids were rated so poorly on personality in the Harvard admissions data. There's a disconnect between what you want to see and hear and what the majority wants to see and hear. You keep driving home how well trained your child is study to the test but no one cares. They want to see personality, innovation and diversity of thought, approach and skill. You aren't showing that. When you have 1,000 applicants and 700 are Asian with 4.5 GPAs, who play violin and tennis, you're hurting your own chances because there is no diversity even within your application pool. It's boring simply. I know this hurts your little feelings but as someone who has worked at a college and with admissions staff, their eyes start to glaze over after awhile.

Wait-these kids are rated poorly on personality because they have terrible personalities? "These kids"? A whole race of kids with don't have personalit, innovation and diversity of thought?

Please ban this poster.
You have no place working at a college and with admissions staff. I hope someone can trace your identity and out you.

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The Asian American applicants had great interviews and great recommendations. Yet the admissions staff, the people most removed from knowing them personally, somehow know Asian Americans have the worst personalities.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you've described a school that selects URMs. That's not anti-AAPI bias.

Fwiw, there a number of AAPI students in FCPS of different backgrounds and some are high achieving and others are average. Don't have all the same concerns.

It is biased if the selection is not based on merit.

The problem is how do we fairly define merit? What if a wealthy school offers advanced classes unavailable elsewhere or an affluent family spends thousands on outside enrichment? Does this mean they have more merit? Should public shool programs be open to all county residents or just those who can afford enrichment?

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you've described a school that selects URMs. That's not anti-AAPI bias.

Fwiw, there a number of AAPI students in FCPS of different backgrounds and some are high achieving and others are average. Don't have all the same concerns.

It is biased if the selection is not based on merit.

Then you should be glad that at any school system around here selection is race-blind.

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"Merit."

You don't deserve anything. Neither do I.