Has Bancroft's rapid gentrification ruined its chances to have its current feeder rights preserved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This idea that access to Wilson, now Jackson-Reed, was premised on the "diversity" that crosstown commuter students offered has always been so patronizing and so easily manipulated by upper class people pointing at their neighbors while seeking benefits for themselves.

The Jackson-Reed catchment area is rich and white. It just is. If the school is rich and white it's a result of residential segregation. Why is there a need to create a Garden of Cultivated Diversity at Jackson-Reed for the benefit of its student body who don't see those people in the rest of their lives? Please explain. And please explain why the rest of us are props for your fancy people lives, maybe even "props with benefits."

If the idea is that the District needs a place for students to thrive who are wilting among their dumbass neighbors' children, why are criteria for entry being set around residential segregation, e.g., "Bancroft access?" Why isn't it family income or test scores or something else?

Residence-based access to a crosstown school, with the requirement of enrollment for at least a few days in a school in a particular neighborhood, is such a ridiculous approach to solving schooling problems.

Um, you should be able to buy a house & be able to know exactly where your kid will go to school at least for middle and high school, instead of having to worry about the lottery & magnet nonsense. That’s how it works in the US. It’s bad enough that there’s constant school rezoning in the DMV suburbs.

San Francisco & NYC have what you want. As a result, families that can’t afford $60,000/year private k-12 schools leave those cities once they have kids.

In many towns in the US, every school district has one high school, one middle school and a couple elementary schools. You buy a house in those places with zero risk that your kid will have to be rezoned or bused somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

DC does it once every 10 years to keep up with population changes and movement. It’s a very reasonable approach.

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Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

This. 10 years ago Bowser protected her peeps in the Shepard boundary. Never mind that Kalorama Triangle and Woodley Park students used to zip up to Deal on metro far more conveniently than students who lived near Shepard ever could get themselves anywhere.

Bancroft parents at those Ward 1 listening sessions said a lot of things about how sacrifice was necessary for the good of the school, fully confident they were not the ones called upon to sacrifice.

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Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

Ha! The mayor is counting the days until Matilda is in Catholic school.

I wouldn’t be so sure. From what I hear in my friends group, Shepherd is an amazing little school. Also, that’s not the child’s name and we should stop referring to kids by name anyhow. I wouldn’t underscore the presence of the J&J and D9 families at Shepherd.

I think it's less about Mayor Bowser's own child and more about her connections to Ward 4.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

Ha! The mayor is counting the days until Matilda is in Catholic school.

I wouldn’t be so sure. From what I hear in my friends group, Shepherd is an amazing little school. Also, that’s not the child’s name and we should stop referring to kids by name anyhow. I wouldn’t underscore the presence of the J&J and D9 families at Shepherd.

I think it's less about Mayor Bowser's own child and more about her connections to Ward 4.

Her daughter's name is Miranda - and her mother is a public figure and released her name to the media. Just like Mayor Bowser has repeatedly said she was going to put her in Catholic school eventually. Wells and Coolidge are also in Ward 4. Manor Park where Bowser grew up is in Ward 4 and routed to Wells/Coolidge. Once she's out of office she is not beholden to CC and Gold Coast $$$.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

Ha! The mayor is counting the days until Matilda is in Catholic school.

I wouldn’t be so sure. From what I hear in my friends group, Shepherd is an amazing little school. Also, that’s not the child’s name and we should stop referring to kids by name anyhow. I wouldn’t underscore the presence of the J&J and D9 families at Shepherd.

I think it's less about Mayor Bowser's own child and more about her connections to Ward 4.

Her daughter's name is Miranda - and her mother is a public figure and released her name to the media. Just like Mayor Bowser has repeatedly said she was going to put her in Catholic school eventually. Wells and Coolidge are also in Ward 4. Manor Park where Bowser grew up is in Ward 4 and routed to Wells/Coolidge. Once she's out of office she is not beholden to CC and Gold Coast $$$.

No doubt she will send her child private but that won’t happen until after this boundary review. She will protect W4 and SP because that’s where her political base and its money reside. She will need them to get Eleanor Holmes Norton’s seat when EHN retires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idea that access to Wilson, now Jackson-Reed, was premised on the "diversity" that crosstown commuter students offered has always been so patronizing and so easily manipulated by upper class people pointing at their neighbors while seeking benefits for themselves.

The Jackson-Reed catchment area is rich and white. It just is. If the school is rich and white it's a result of residential segregation. Why is there a need to create a Garden of Cultivated Diversity at Jackson-Reed for the benefit of its student body who don't see those people in the rest of their lives? Please explain. And please explain why the rest of us are props for your fancy people lives, maybe even "props with benefits."

If the idea is that the District needs a place for students to thrive who are wilting among their dumbass neighbors' children, why are criteria for entry being set around residential segregation, e.g., "Bancroft access?" Why isn't it family income or test scores or something else?

Residence-based access to a crosstown school, with the requirement of enrollment for at least a few days in a school in a particular neighborhood, is such a ridiculous approach to solving schooling problems.

Um, you should be able to buy a house & be able to know exactly where your kid will go to school at least for middle and high school, instead of having to worry about the lottery & magnet nonsense. That’s how it works in the US. It’s bad enough that there’s constant school rezoning in the DMV suburbs.

San Francisco & NYC have what you want. As a result, families that can’t afford $60,000/year private k-12 schools leave those cities once they have kids.

In many towns in the US, every school district has one high school, one middle school and a couple elementary schools. You buy a house in those places with zero risk that your kid will have to be rezoned or bused somewhere else.

Actually, this is exactly the way it works across the US. And that’s the way it should work. Unfortunately, in DC, it doesn’t because there is no political will to make hard decisions that make for bad optics but sound school system management. It’s all political here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

This. 10 years ago Bowser protected her peeps in the Shepard boundary. Never mind that Kalorama Triangle and Woodley Park students used to zip up to Deal on metro far more conveniently than students who lived near Shepard ever could get themselves anywhere.

Bancroft parents at those Ward 1 listening sessions said a lot of things about how sacrifice was necessary for the good of the school, fully confident they were not the ones called upon to sacrifice.

10 years ago, there was no middle school alternative. Also, SP kids get to Deal on a 10 min bus ride. You all can call it political favor all you want. Regardless of who is in power, it does not make sense to zone out the only IB elementary that feeds to Deal, nor does it make sense to send them to Wells that is already over capacity when Hardy is 2/3 at capacity. It just doesn’t. I have no dog in this debate but I’m sure Shepherd and Lafayette families would love a new smaller middle school. The city should just buy out Lowell. Kidding. But one can dream 😃. What they really should have done is dedicate space at Walter Reed for a new middle school. It could still feed to Jackson Reed since they will now be under capacity this year.

[Anonymous]

I’m disheartened that this post has 4 times as many posts as the kid that got killed last week on DCPS site during the school day. But we really know what’s top of mind for Liberal, Rainbow flags, All are Welcome, Believe Science, BLM Ward 3 folks - the possibility of being zoned out of a white plurality school! Gotta love it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m disheartened that this post has 4 times as many posts as the kid that got killed last week on DCPS site during the school day. But we really know what’s top of mind for Liberal, Rainbow flags, All are Welcome, Believe Science, BLM Ward 3 folks - the possibility of being zoned out of a white plurality school! Gotta love it.

I noticed that imbalance too. However, I think the problem with the shootings is that there is nothing left to say and there is no point to argue about. The shootings are horrible, awful, unacceptable. Guns should be illegal, legal consequences should be higher, social supports should be better (but what, when, and how?). And the people who need to get their thinking straight on this are not on tjis forum and mostly are not in DC. And the rest of us are helpless.

So we debate problems with less clear answers but more clarity as to hiw we fit in the puzzle.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m disheartened that this post has 4 times as many posts as the kid that got killed last week on DCPS site during the school day. But we really know what’s top of mind for Liberal, Rainbow flags, All are Welcome, Believe Science, BLM Ward 3 folks - the possibility of being zoned out of a white plurality school! Gotta love it.

I noticed that imbalance too. However, I think the problem with the shootings is that there is nothing left to say and there is no point to argue about. The shootings are horrible, awful, unacceptable. Guns should be illegal, legal consequences should be higher, social supports should be better (but what, when, and how?). And the people who need to get their thinking straight on this are not on tjis forum and mostly are not in DC. And the rest of us are helpless.

So we debate problems with less clear answers but more clarity as to hiw we fit in the puzzle.

I appreciate your response. Just because we feel helpless doesn’t mean we could t debate what we should be doing and exactly what each council member thinks and their stance. We can debate how much security should be outside of schools, not just metal detectors. There’s a lot we can discuss that runs parallel to re-zoning but when it doesn’t affect one personally, people have intentional blinders on. The same people that are shouting BLM are the same ones turning a blind eye when brown lives are being taken at school.

Case in point, the shooting near JR that caused a temporary lock down in Nov had 7 pages of comments in 4 hours.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1094990.page

Not to mention the shooting at Burke that didn’t result in any students being killed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

Ha! The mayor is counting the days until Matilda is in Catholic school.

I wouldn’t be so sure. From what I hear in my friends group, Shepherd is an amazing little school. Also, that’s not the child’s name and we should stop referring to kids by name anyhow. I wouldn’t underscore the presence of the J&J and D9 families at Shepherd.

I think it's less about Mayor Bowser's own child and more about her connections to Ward 4.

Her daughter's name is Miranda - and her mother is a public figure and released her name to the media. Just like Mayor Bowser has repeatedly said she was going to put her in Catholic school eventually. Wells and Coolidge are also in Ward 4. Manor Park where Bowser grew up is in Ward 4 and routed to Wells/Coolidge. Once she's out of office she is not beholden to CC and Gold Coast $$$.

No doubt she will send her child private but that won’t happen until after this boundary review. She will protect W4 and SP because that’s where her political base and its money reside. She will need them to get Eleanor Holmes Norton’s seat when EHN retires.

She is not getting that seat, EHN has already said she wants Kenyan for that seat.

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Anonymous wrote:Cackling with a little smug satisfaction here. My Adams Morgan neighborhood lost access to Deal about 10 years ago. I sat in on several community listening sessions filled mostly with Bancroft parents and soon-to-be Bancroft parents who were totally fine with sacrificing our kids, since they were so confident their kids were safe.

My own family no longer needs DCPS, but the school boundary change transformed Kalorama Triangle. We have a lot more doggy parents and fewer human parents. The housing stock is different in Mount Pleasant, so I don't know if the change will be as dramatic for you. But it couldn't happen to nicer folks.

Also, the Shepherd and Lafayette parents, a hard rain is going to fall.

The mayor would never allow Shepherd to be moved out of Deal.

You seem like a lovely person (!) but terribly naive.

Ha! The mayor is counting the days until Matilda is in Catholic school.

I wouldn’t be so sure. From what I hear in my friends group, Shepherd is an amazing little school. Also, that’s not the child’s name and we should stop referring to kids by name anyhow. I wouldn’t underscore the presence of the J&J and D9 families at Shepherd.

I think it's less about Mayor Bowser's own child and more about her connections to Ward 4.

Her daughter's name is Miranda - and her mother is a public figure and released her name to the media. Just like Mayor Bowser has repeatedly said she was going to put her in Catholic school eventually. Wells and Coolidge are also in Ward 4. Manor Park where Bowser grew up is in Ward 4 and routed to Wells/Coolidge. Once she's out of office she is not beholden to CC and Gold Coast $$$.

No doubt she will send her child private but that won’t happen until after this boundary review. She will protect W4 and SP because that’s where her political base and its money reside. She will need them to get Eleanor Holmes Norton’s seat when EHN retires.

She is not getting that seat, EHN has already said she wants Kenyan for that seat.

Then there’s going to be fight and Bowser is not going to antagonize possible supporters by right-sizing enrollment across DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m disheartened that this post has 4 times as many posts as the kid that got killed last week on DCPS site during the school day. But we really know what’s top of mind for Liberal, Rainbow flags, All are Welcome, Believe Science, BLM Ward 3 folks - the possibility of being zoned out of a white plurality school! Gotta love it.

You just explained why not getting zoned out is so important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m disheartened that this post has 4 times as many posts as the kid that got killed last week on DCPS site during the school day. But we really know what’s top of mind for Liberal, Rainbow flags, All are Welcome, Believe Science, BLM Ward 3 folks - the possibility of being zoned out of a white plurality school! Gotta love it.

I noticed that imbalance too. However, I think the problem with the shootings is that there is nothing left to say and there is no point to argue about. The shootings are horrible, awful, unacceptable. Guns should be illegal, legal consequences should be higher, social supports should be better (but what, when, and how?). And the people who need to get their thinking straight on this are not on tjis forum and mostly are not in DC. And the rest of us are helpless.

So we debate problems with less clear answers but more clarity as to hiw we fit in the puzzle.

+1. I just don’t know what to say about the gun violence anymore. Same way I don’t even read the weekly news articles about mass shootings. I’m just overwhelmed and burnt out and it feels like a hopeless situation.