An excellent article on the Right-wing misuse of classical education

[Anonymous]

Public schools are for the destitute, overwhelmed and confused families. Private or homeschool are the only options for families of strength and purpose. Liberals have turned the publics into a sloppy, slovenly, somewhat odiferous, time-wasting, soul sucking vortex of re-tarded sexuality and Sesame Street level academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort? That kind of sounds like what liberal cities and teachers unions did during the pandemic. The policies of the Left were objectively wrong, yet the people trading in common sense at the time were called racist, conspiracy theorists, and much worse. I recall in the Spring of 2022 literally being told on Twitter that I would cause a racial genocide for advocating for the lifting of mask mandates in DCPS schools. I really loved this snippet from the NYT this weekend ...

"Many liberals overstated Covid’s dangers to the non-elderly, especially children. Partly for that reason, Democratic-run communities closed schools for longer. It was a bad trade-off: These areas did not have noticeably less Covid, and their children struggled more. The left also appears to have been wrong about long-term mask mandates (which had little effect) and wrong to dismiss the lab-leak theory (which, contrary to being a bigoted conspiracy theory, remains plausible)."

Its an absolute scandal that our children were used as a Teachers Union bargaining chip, and that parents in liberal cities refuse to hold their leaders accountable. My daughter was three when the pandemic started. She is seven now. In that time period she has never seen a teacher's mouth move. (Yep, her 25 y/o teacher is STILL masking.) She has literacy and articulation issues. SURPRISE!

COVID killed over 1.1 million Americans, including teachers. But yes, let's pretend none of that ever happened, let's continue to pander to delusional right wing conspiracy theorists who wanna say it was all a hoax and spout deranged idiocy about how masks and vaccines were all about control and that the vaccines are dangerous and how you can't breathe in a mask and how kids couldn't learn phonetics or how to speak when people wear masks because apparently none of you ever speak to your kids at home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort? That kind of sounds like what liberal cities and teachers unions did during the pandemic. The policies of the Left were objectively wrong, yet the people trading in common sense at the time were called racist, conspiracy theorists, and much worse. I recall in the Spring of 2022 literally being told on Twitter that I would cause a racial genocide for advocating for the lifting of mask mandates in DCPS schools. I really loved this snippet from the NYT this weekend ...

"Many liberals overstated Covid’s dangers to the non-elderly, especially children. Partly for that reason, Democratic-run communities closed schools for longer. It was a bad trade-off: These areas did not have noticeably less Covid, and their children struggled more. The left also appears to have been wrong about long-term mask mandates (which had little effect) and wrong to dismiss the lab-leak theory (which, contrary to being a bigoted conspiracy theory, remains plausible)."

Its an absolute scandal that our children were used as a Teachers Union bargaining chip, and that parents in liberal cities refuse to hold their leaders accountable. My daughter was three when the pandemic started. She is seven now. In that time period she has never seen a teacher's mouth move. (Yep, her 25 y/o teacher is STILL masking.) She has literacy and articulation issues. SURPRISE!

My kid could read before even getting into school because we regularly read story books with him. You obviously didn't. And here you are, shamelessly pretending to care about kids and teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort? That kind of sounds like what liberal cities and teachers unions did during the pandemic. The policies of the Left were objectively wrong, yet the people trading in common sense at the time were called racist, conspiracy theorists, and much worse. I recall in the Spring of 2022 literally being told on Twitter that I would cause a racial genocide for advocating for the lifting of mask mandates in DCPS schools. I really loved this snippet from the NYT this weekend ...

"Many liberals overstated Covid’s dangers to the non-elderly, especially children. Partly for that reason, Democratic-run communities closed schools for longer. It was a bad trade-off: These areas did not have noticeably less Covid, and their children struggled more. The left also appears to have been wrong about long-term mask mandates (which had little effect) and wrong to dismiss the lab-leak theory (which, contrary to being a bigoted conspiracy theory, remains plausible)."

Its an absolute scandal that our children were used as a Teachers Union bargaining chip, and that parents in liberal cities refuse to hold their leaders accountable. My daughter was three when the pandemic started. She is seven now. In that time period she has never seen a teacher's mouth move. (Yep, her 25 y/o teacher is STILL masking.) She has literacy and articulation issues. SURPRISE!

My kid could read before even getting into school because we regularly read story books with him. You obviously didn't. And here you are, shamelessly pretending to care about kids and teaching.

DP. You're gross. Schools are supposed to educate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public schools are for the destitute, overwhelmed and confused families. Private or homeschool are the only options for families of strength and purpose. Liberals have turned the publics into a sloppy, slovenly, somewhat odiferous, time-wasting, soul sucking vortex of re-tarded sexuality and Sesame Street level academics.

Please take your medications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort? That kind of sounds like what liberal cities and teachers unions did during the pandemic. The policies of the Left were objectively wrong, yet the people trading in common sense at the time were called racist, conspiracy theorists, and much worse. I recall in the Spring of 2022 literally being told on Twitter that I would cause a racial genocide for advocating for the lifting of mask mandates in DCPS schools. I really loved this snippet from the NYT this weekend ...

"Many liberals overstated Covid’s dangers to the non-elderly, especially children. Partly for that reason, Democratic-run communities closed schools for longer. It was a bad trade-off: These areas did not have noticeably less Covid, and their children struggled more. The left also appears to have been wrong about long-term mask mandates (which had little effect) and wrong to dismiss the lab-leak theory (which, contrary to being a bigoted conspiracy theory, remains plausible)."

Its an absolute scandal that our children were used as a Teachers Union bargaining chip, and that parents in liberal cities refuse to hold their leaders accountable. My daughter was three when the pandemic started. She is seven now. In that time period she has never seen a teacher's mouth move. (Yep, her 25 y/o teacher is STILL masking.) She has literacy and articulation issues. SURPRISE!

My kid could read before even getting into school because we regularly read story books with him. You obviously didn't. And here you are, shamelessly pretending to care about kids and teaching.

DP. You're gross. Schools are supposed to educate.

I hope that was sarcasm. Otherwise it's a really bizarre take. Parents have responsibility to ensure their kids are well educated, by any and all means, not just schools but teaching them ourselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort? That kind of sounds like what liberal cities and teachers unions did during the pandemic. The policies of the Left were objectively wrong, yet the people trading in common sense at the time were called racist, conspiracy theorists, and much worse. I recall in the Spring of 2022 literally being told on Twitter that I would cause a racial genocide for advocating for the lifting of mask mandates in DCPS schools. I really loved this snippet from the NYT this weekend ...

"Many liberals overstated Covid’s dangers to the non-elderly, especially children. Partly for that reason, Democratic-run communities closed schools for longer. It was a bad trade-off: These areas did not have noticeably less Covid, and their children struggled more. The left also appears to have been wrong about long-term mask mandates (which had little effect) and wrong to dismiss the lab-leak theory (which, contrary to being a bigoted conspiracy theory, remains plausible)."

Its an absolute scandal that our children were used as a Teachers Union bargaining chip, and that parents in liberal cities refuse to hold their leaders accountable. My daughter was three when the pandemic started. She is seven now. In that time period she has never seen a teacher's mouth move. (Yep, her 25 y/o teacher is STILL masking.) She has literacy and articulation issues. SURPRISE!

My kid could read before even getting into school because we regularly read story books with him. You obviously didn't. And here you are, shamelessly pretending to care about kids and teaching.

DP. You're gross. Schools are supposed to educate.

I hope that was sarcasm. Otherwise it's a really bizarre take. Parents have responsibility to ensure their kids are well educated, by any and all means, not just schools but teaching them ourselves.

You told a pp that if her kid didn't arrive at kindergarten already reading, that should have no voice in her children's education.

That's an insane take. First, because children learn at different paces. And second, because parents of all backgrounds and abilities can and do have a say in their children's education.

You are shaming a parent and positioning yourself as super mami, and that's being done to a lot of parents all over. That's why historic numbers of parents are pulling their kids out of public schools. This isn't good for public schools and will hurt their funding and public support. You sound like a total bully, btw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort? That kind of sounds like what liberal cities and teachers unions did during the pandemic. The policies of the Left were objectively wrong, yet the people trading in common sense at the time were called racist, conspiracy theorists, and much worse. I recall in the Spring of 2022 literally being told on Twitter that I would cause a racial genocide for advocating for the lifting of mask mandates in DCPS schools. I really loved this snippet from the NYT this weekend ...

"Many liberals overstated Covid’s dangers to the non-elderly, especially children. Partly for that reason, Democratic-run communities closed schools for longer. It was a bad trade-off: These areas did not have noticeably less Covid, and their children struggled more. The left also appears to have been wrong about long-term mask mandates (which had little effect) and wrong to dismiss the lab-leak theory (which, contrary to being a bigoted conspiracy theory, remains plausible)."

Its an absolute scandal that our children were used as a Teachers Union bargaining chip, and that parents in liberal cities refuse to hold their leaders accountable. My daughter was three when the pandemic started. She is seven now. In that time period she has never seen a teacher's mouth move. (Yep, her 25 y/o teacher is STILL masking.) She has literacy and articulation issues. SURPRISE!

COVID killed over 1.1 million Americans, including teachers. But yes, let's pretend none of that ever happened, let's continue to pander to delusional right wing conspiracy theorists who wanna say it was all a hoax and spout deranged idiocy about how masks and vaccines were all about control and that the vaccines are dangerous and how you can't breathe in a mask and how kids couldn't learn phonetics or how to speak when people wear masks because apparently none of you ever speak to your kids at home?

COVID would have killed just a limited number of people, slightly more than the regular flu. It was fine all up until the CDC/FDA/AMA got involved in trying to fix it. Study that showing that ventilators killed people:

Secondary bacterial infection of the lung (pneumonia) was extremely common in patients with COVID-19, affecting almost half the patients who required support from mechanical ventilation. By applying machine learning to medical record data, scientists at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine found that secondary bacterial pneumonia that does not resolve was a key driver of death in patients with COVID-19. It may even exceed death rates from the viral infection itself.

Have we not learned how to treat pneumonia yet?

Cleveland clinic treatments:

Some treatments may include:

Antibiotics: Antibiotics treat bacterial pneumonia. They can’t treat a virus but a provider may prescribe them if you have a bacterial infection at the same time as a virus.

Antifungal medications: Antifungals can treat pneumonia caused by a fungal infection.

Antiviral medications: Viral pneumonia usually isn’t treated with medication and can go away on its own. A provider may prescribe antivirals such as oseltamivir (Tamiflu®), zanamivir (Relenza®) or peramivir (Rapivab®) to reduce how long you’re sick and how sick you get from a virus.

Oxygen therapy: If you’re not getting enough oxygen, a provider may give you extra oxygen through a tube in your nose or a mask on your face.

IV fluids: Fluids delivered directly to your vein (IV) treat or prevent dehydration.

Draining of fluids: If you have a lot of fluid between your lungs and chest wall (pleural effusion), a provider may drain it. This is done with a catheter or surgery.


These obviously are the most common and didn't see put the person on a Vent anywhere, but yet that is what we did to a majority of the everyone that got bad. You are more than welcome to attempt to show that hospitals didn't receive extra money for a COVID patient on a ventilator, good luck though:

"Hospitals and doctors are getting paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 — or if it’s presumed they’ve contracted the virus save for laboratory-confirmed tests — and then the payout triples if those patients are placed on ventilators, according to a USA Today fact check."

"The CARES Act created the 20% add-on to be paid for Medicare patients with COVID-19. The act further created a $100 billion fund that is being used to financially assist hospitals"


You can spin the MSM media hype all you want but the end result is telling people to go home and die from March of 2020 wasn't the right answer. Funny how COVID was in the US late 2019 but only when the "medical professionals at the highest levels" told doctors what do to did the death rate really take off. Then it is worthy to note that the CARES act was signed into law March 27th, 2020.

You sound like you are part of the teachers union that didn't want to go back to work.

[Anonymous]

A lot of delusional MAGAs raging tonight. I pity your families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of delusional MAGAs raging tonight. I pity your families.

Given that conservatives consistently rank higher on all metrics of wellbeing and happiness, your concern seems misplaced.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is "literally genocidal."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Oh FFS. Kids are still being taught all of these things.

For a long time, the basics of reading decoding, spelling, and writing were definitely ignored in favor of whole language type instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Oh FFS. Kids are still being taught all of these things.

For a long time, the basics of reading decoding, spelling, and writing were definitely ignored in favor of whole language type instruction.

That is still happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public schools are for the destitute, overwhelmed and confused families. Private or homeschool are the only options for families of strength and purpose. Liberals have turned the publics into a sloppy, slovenly, somewhat odiferous, time-wasting, soul sucking vortex of re-tarded sexuality and Sesame Street level academics.

Concentrated truth bomb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of delusional MAGAs raging tonight. I pity your families.

PP here. The literal publisher of the NYT wrote that in retrospect, the data shows that liberal cities were wrong to keep schools closed for so long, and that the positive impact of masking in schools was grossly exaggerated. These are facts. There was no genocide of children or teachers of color when schools reopened, or when the mask mandate was lifted. The educational catastrophe unfolding for these same kids on the other hand is very real. Some of us understood this earlier than others.

I have two teacher aunts that retired early, uprooted their lives and fled to the woods, gave up on years of income and the children they served because of the fear that was stoked. I am simultaneously sad and ashamed for them.

COVID killed 1.1 million people. That is a fact. But over three years, 1,700 were Americans aged 0-18. We failed our children, full stop, because of these assinine policies and race to the bottom of the virtue signaling well. My family is vaccinated. I like Dr. Fauci. My first grader can now read. All of these things can be true while still acknowledging that liberals were wrong on COVID education policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of delusional MAGAs raging tonight. I pity your families.

PP here. The literal publisher of the NYT wrote that in retrospect, the data shows that liberal cities were wrong to keep schools closed for so long, and that the positive impact of masking in schools was grossly exaggerated. These are facts. There was no genocide of children or teachers of color when schools reopened, or when the mask mandate was lifted. The educational catastrophe unfolding for these same kids on the other hand is very real. Some of us understood this earlier than others.

I have two teacher aunts that retired early, uprooted their lives and fled to the woods, gave up on years of income and the children they served because of the fear that was stoked. I am simultaneously sad and ashamed for them.

COVID killed 1.1 million people. That is a fact. But over three years, 1,700 were Americans aged 0-18. We failed our children, full stop, because of these assinine policies and race to the bottom of the virtue signaling well. My family is vaccinated. I like Dr. Fauci. My first grader can now read. All of these things can be true while still acknowledging that liberals were wrong on COVID education policies.

There are no conservative cities.