This board has been taken over by weight loss drug threads

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.

Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.

We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.

This is not universally true. Not everyone needs to resort to drugs to control their weight. The defeatist attitude about all this gets to be a little tired.

You know what’s really tiring? All the fat shaming. Now there’s a drug that might actually make a difference, and here you are judging people as “giving up.” Do you tell diabetics to just try a little harder to control how they process sugar? I’m sure you must be fun around those with cancer. After all , it must be their fault.

DP. I don't think you understand what "fat shaming" is. There is a scientifically proven way to lose weight, and keep weight off. It's called: eat less, move more. Is it hard? Well, sure. But will it lead to success for 99.5% of human beings? Yes. How on earth is it "fat shaming" to bring this up?

I'm nearing keeping a 60lb weight loss (at 5'2") for 9 years. I was obese as a kid, teen, and up until my 30s. No pills, no diets, just small, sustainable changes that are permanent.

The reason why I'll wage to say that the drugs will not work long term, is because the people seeking them out are seeking an easy (or easier) fix than putting in the work... forever. Losing weight the natural way doesn't mean never eating cake again, or never eating out again, or running 10 miles a day. It means small, regular, permanent changes.

You don't want to do that, and go for the semi glutide? Go for it. But the mentality behind why people are seeking out the drugs... it's not going to lead to long term weight loss success. The only way to do that, is to actually put in the work. Sorry, them's the facts. And I was fat for most of my life.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.

Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.

We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.

This is not universally true. Not everyone needs to resort to drugs to control their weight. The defeatist attitude about all this gets to be a little tired.

You know what’s really tiring? All the fat shaming. Now there’s a drug that might actually make a difference, and here you are judging people as “giving up.” Do you tell diabetics to just try a little harder to control how they process sugar? I’m sure you must be fun around those with cancer. After all , it must be their fault.

DP. I don't think you understand what "fat shaming" is. There is a scientifically proven way to lose weight, and keep weight off. It's called: eat less, move more. Is it hard? Well, sure. But will it lead to success for 99.5% of human beings? Yes. How on earth is it "fat shaming" to bring this up?

I'm nearing keeping a 60lb weight loss (at 5'2") for 9 years. I was obese as a kid, teen, and up until my 30s. No pills, no diets, just small, sustainable changes that are permanent.

The reason why I'll wage to say that the drugs will not work long term, is because the people seeking them out are seeking an easy (or easier) fix than putting in the work... forever. Losing weight the natural way doesn't mean never eating cake again, or never eating out again, or running 10 miles a day. It means small, regular, permanent changes.

You don't want to do that, and go for the semi glutide? Go for it. But the mentality behind why people are seeking out the drugs... it's not going to lead to long term weight loss success. The only way to do that, is to actually put in the work. Sorry, them's the facts. And I was fat for most of my life.

And now you’re furious that there’s an easier way. That’s super understandable.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.

Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.

We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.

This is not universally true. Not everyone needs to resort to drugs to control their weight. The defeatist attitude about all this gets to be a little tired.

You know what’s really tiring? All the fat shaming. Now there’s a drug that might actually make a difference, and here you are judging people as “giving up.” Do you tell diabetics to just try a little harder to control how they process sugar? I’m sure you must be fun around those with cancer. After all , it must be their fault.

DP. I don't think you understand what "fat shaming" is. There is a scientifically proven way to lose weight, and keep weight off. It's called: eat less, move more. Is it hard? Well, sure. But will it lead to success for 99.5% of human beings? Yes. How on earth is it "fat shaming" to bring this up?

I'm nearing keeping a 60lb weight loss (at 5'2") for 9 years. I was obese as a kid, teen, and up until my 30s. No pills, no diets, just small, sustainable changes that are permanent.

The reason why I'll wage to say that the drugs will not work long term, is because the people seeking them out are seeking an easy (or easier) fix than putting in the work... forever. Losing weight the natural way doesn't mean never eating cake again, or never eating out again, or running 10 miles a day. It means small, regular, permanent changes.

You don't want to do that, and go for the semi glutide? Go for it. But the mentality behind why people are seeking out the drugs... it's not going to lead to long term weight loss success. The only way to do that, is to actually put in the work. Sorry, them's the facts. And I was fat for most of my life.

And now you’re furious that there’s an easier way. That’s super understandable.

Do.... you know what furious even means?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It means that people are lazy. Especially Americans.

Lazy? I’m a Hepatologist and am on semaglutides and beg to differ. Lazy is spending 12 years in school and then 3 years as a fellow? Lazy is working 60hrs a week? Lazy is assisting with liver transplant care? Yea I’m lazy alright. You know who else is lazy? My patients with fatty liver. You know what most of them
have in common? They are busting their lazy asses at work. They are trying to put food on the table and give their kids a good life and their health is what is sacrificed. I have Medicaid patients who have busted their lazy asses their entire lives at brutally hard jobs whose bodies and up completely breaking down and are now not able to work. One of my current patients was a career housekeeper and also worked a 2nd job overnight as a road worker on paving projects. Do you have any idea what kid of chaos ilthr body goes through with night shift work? Ask me how I know. Better yet read the multiple studies about night shift work and the health implications. Alarmingly I have lazy ass kids coming into my clinic more than ever with fatty liver disease. Children with fatty liver. The current estimate is that 10%! of US kids have fatty liver. That’s staggering. These lazy kids are in desperate need for a pediatric Hepatologist, but many people aren’t as lazy as me and want to do what it takes to do this job. Americans are a lot of things, but lazy is not one of them.

I hope semaglutides wipe me out of a job. I’m on the back end of seeing what obesity does and it does not boil down to lazy. Because of my career being on the front lines of obesity mortality, I got on semaglutides myself when I saw dramatic reversal of fatty liver disease in some of my patients. Not to even mention what a miracle it is for reducing alcohol consumption. There are many hormonal and environmental factors that we are just learning more about that contribute to obesity. Semaglutides in my experience (I can assure you I know more about the effects of obesity than you) are a life saving therapeutic treatment and should be dispensed more freely than they are now.

People are not obese because they are lazy, just the same that people are not anorexic because they are hardworking.

Stop being such a lazy keyboard warrior and do some real research. Your attitude is antiquated and intellectually lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:People are lazy and vain.

Or they have serious metabolic disorders that make losing weight almost impossible, and that extra weight is seriously increasing their risk of heart attack and stroke, so they weigh the risk of the drug against that.

Oh and also, Your Judginess, you still have to exercise and eat in a deficit while on the drug.

The inner fat girl will always show. You’ll be back to sumo sized in two years.

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Anonymous wrote:People are lazy and vain.

How many marathons have YOU run? Because I promise you I’m not the only multiple marathon finisher who’s on these meds because I’m at risk for serious health problems.

Did you run those marathons, or primarily walk them?

She was gently rolled by actual runners with oars.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.

Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.

We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.

This is not universally true. Not everyone needs to resort to drugs to control their weight. The defeatist attitude about all this gets to be a little tired.

You know what’s really tiring? All the fat shaming. Now there’s a drug that might actually make a difference, and here you are judging people as “giving up.” Do you tell diabetics to just try a little harder to control how they process sugar? I’m sure you must be fun around those with cancer. After all , it must be their fault.

DP. I don't think you understand what "fat shaming" is. There is a scientifically proven way to lose weight, and keep weight off. It's called: eat less, move more. Is it hard? Well, sure. But will it lead to success for 99.5% of human beings? Yes. How on earth is it "fat shaming" to bring this up?

I'm nearing keeping a 60lb weight loss (at 5'2") for 9 years. I was obese as a kid, teen, and up until my 30s. No pills, no diets, just small, sustainable changes that are permanent.

The reason why I'll wage to say that the drugs will not work long term, is because the people seeking them out are seeking an easy (or easier) fix than putting in the work... forever. Losing weight the natural way doesn't mean never eating cake again, or never eating out again, or running 10 miles a day. It means small, regular, permanent changes.

You don't want to do that, and go for the semi glutide? Go for it. But the mentality behind why people are seeking out the drugs... it's not going to lead to long term weight loss success. The only way to do that, is to actually put in the work. Sorry, them's the facts. And I was fat for most of my life.

And now you’re furious that there’s an easier way. That’s super understandable.

Do.... you know what furious even means?

She’s living a revenge fantasy that she’s nursed along with everything in chewing range for decades. Everyone is gonna be jeaaalllous. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.

Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.

We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.

This is not universally true. Not everyone needs to resort to drugs to control their weight. The defeatist attitude about all this gets to be a little tired.

You know what’s really tiring? All the fat shaming. Now there’s a drug that might actually make a difference, and here you are judging people as “giving up.” Do you tell diabetics to just try a little harder to control how they process sugar? I’m sure you must be fun around those with cancer. After all , it must be their fault.

DP. I don't think you understand what "fat shaming" is. There is a scientifically proven way to lose weight, and keep weight off. It's called: eat less, move more. Is it hard? Well, sure. But will it lead to success for 99.5% of human beings? Yes. How on earth is it "fat shaming" to bring this up?

I'm nearing keeping a 60lb weight loss (at 5'2") for 9 years. I was obese as a kid, teen, and up until my 30s. No pills, no diets, just small, sustainable changes that are permanent.

The reason why I'll wage to say that the drugs will not work long term, is because the people seeking them out are seeking an easy (or easier) fix than putting in the work... forever. Losing weight the natural way doesn't mean never eating cake again, or never eating out again, or running 10 miles a day. It means small, regular, permanent changes.

You don't want to do that, and go for the semi glutide? Go for it. But the mentality behind why people are seeking out the drugs... it's not going to lead to long term weight loss success. The only way to do that, is to actually put in the work. Sorry, them's the facts. And I was fat for most of my life.

Wow, it’s amazing how you know so much about my mentality. And public health. And the long term success of people taking semaglutide, which you don’t take and have not studied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does it all mean?

Pharma domination, not only diet drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it all mean?

Pharma domination, not only diet drugs.

Pharma as a whole does not benefit from semaglutides use.

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Anonymous wrote:It means that people are lazy. Especially Americans.

Being hardworking is not a cure for obesity.

If you are hardworking and disciplined in your eating, you wouldn’t get to be obese in the first place

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Anonymous wrote:It means that people are lazy. Especially Americans.

Being hardworking is not a cure for obesity.

If you are hardworking and disciplined in your eating, you wouldn’t get to be obese in the first place

If people had self control, they wouldn’t have problems from depression or anxiety.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it all mean?

Pharma domination, not only diet drugs.

Pharma as a whole does not benefit from semaglutides use.

This.

I was on Ozempic for a year before ozempic was a “thing”. I was on it for elevated A1C. I’ve been off ozempic for al2 years after losing 60lbs. My weight never goes over 4 lbs of my ending goal weight. My BMI went from 31 to 22. I went off it because I switched jobs had a high deductible and didn’t want to pay for it OOP. My doctor was not supportive. Here is what has happened since:

1. I have maintained my weight loss for 2 years.
2. I am off statins
3. I am off blood pressure meds
4. I no longer have sleep apnea
5. I am no longer insulin resistant
6. I am no longer on SSRIs
7. I no longer see an endocrinologist
8. I feel so good in my body and work out 6 days a week. Including clocking in 20 miles a week jogging along with 3 days weight lifting and 3 days Pilates.

Haters gonna hate. IDNGAF. I am 100% pharma free and I have ozempic to thank for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.

Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It means that people are lazy. Especially Americans.

Being hardworking is not a cure for obesity.

If you are hardworking and disciplined in your eating, you wouldn’t get to be obese in the first place

If people had self control, they wouldn’t have problems from depression or anxiety.

Not analogous.