This board has been taken over by weight loss drug threads

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree OP. They should all be in the 'beauty' forum, since they have nothing to do with diet or exercise.


Probably “Health” since it’s about treating an epidemic.
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Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.


Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”


The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.


We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.
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Anonymous wrote:What does it all mean?


It means that UMC, largely white women, are still obsessed with being thin, and particularly the idea that thinness is easily attainable for most of us.

I think semaglutides can be very helpful for people who suffer from obesity. That’s not most of DCUM.


Promise plenty of us are obese. Including me.

I wonder if you don’t realize it because you think of it as an insult for someone who looks disgusting rather than a medical diagnosis.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.


Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”

Your livelihood depends on believe that, or at least convincing people you believe that and they should believe it, too.


I quit to be a SAHM a year ago and DH is in a different industry. I’m just a true believer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It means that people are lazy. Especially Americans.


Being hardworking is not a cure for obesity.
Anonymous
You can treat depression without pharmaceuticals but thankfully people have mostly evolved past calling people “lazy” for taking “happy pills.”

Although to be perfectly honest I don’t care what anyone thinks of me for taking semaglutide. I have regular obesity not caused by trauma or marathon training or some rare disorder. I’ve lost and gained a lot of weight by a lot of methods and I am morally the same now as then. I’ve never heard a valid argument for why dieting without meds is moral but dieting with meds is immoral or why one is “lazy.”
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Anonymous wrote:You can treat depression without pharmaceuticals but thankfully people have mostly evolved past calling people “lazy” for taking “happy pills.”

Although to be perfectly honest I don’t care what anyone thinks of me for taking semaglutide. I have regular obesity not caused by trauma or marathon training or some rare disorder. I’ve lost and gained a lot of weight by a lot of methods and I am morally the same now as then. I’ve never heard a valid argument for why dieting without meds is moral but dieting with meds is immoral or why one is “lazy.”


+1

I’m fat now after a lifetime of working incredibly hard to lose weight and maintain weight loss. All the drugs have done is quiet constant food chatter.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it all mean?


It means that UMC, largely white women, are still obsessed with being thin, and particularly the idea that thinness is easily attainable for most of us.

I think semaglutides can be very helpful for people who suffer from obesity. That’s not most of DCUM.


Promise plenty of us are obese. Including me.

I wonder if you don’t realize it because you think of it as an insult for someone who looks disgusting rather than a medical diagnosis.


Nope. Try again. PP is right - these threads should be on the Health and Medicine forum since obesity is a disease with significant heritability.

This forum is incredibly hostile to people who are overweight or obese, or even anyone of average weight, frankly. Look at the recent thread insisting that a good guideline for women’s weight is 100 pounds +5 pounds for any inch over 5 feet tall. That the semaglutides threads pop here, instead of Health and Medicine, demonstrates how most of DCUM views obesity: something that can be easily adjusted with diet and exercise, rather than what it actually is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it all mean?


It means that UMC, largely white women, are still obsessed with being thin, and particularly the idea that thinness is easily attainable for most of us.

I think semaglutides can be very helpful for people who suffer from obesity. That’s not most of DCUM.


Promise plenty of us are obese. Including me.

I wonder if you don’t realize it because you think of it as an insult for someone who looks disgusting rather than a medical diagnosis.


Nope. Try again. PP is right - these threads should be on the Health and Medicine forum since obesity is a disease with significant heritability.

This forum is incredibly hostile to people who are overweight or obese, or even anyone of average weight, frankly. Look at the recent thread insisting that a good guideline for women’s weight is 100 pounds +5 pounds for any inch over 5 feet tall. That the semaglutides threads pop here, instead of Health and Medicine, demonstrates how most of DCUM views obesity: something that can be easily adjusted with diet and exercise, rather than what it actually is.


Fair point, a lot of the threads here promote unhealthy eating or losing 5-10 lbs for a vacation. Setting aside celebrities, I think a lot of people on semaglutides ARE doing it for health reasons. Being overweight or obese causes all sorts of issues and risks. I’m not below 25 BMI quite yet but already seeing a lot of benefits of being 20 lbs lighter, including normal A1C levels.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.


Some of us, at no fault of our own, need big pharma to lead a decent life. How pious of you.
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Anonymous wrote:We are creating a league of short sighted addicts. These are great drugs for people whose lives are at risk due to weight issues. Otherwise, I want to cry so bad for their futures.


Go ahead and cry, sweetie! What’s stopping you?

+1

The fat shamers are so big mad that they won’t have so many people to shame! It’s kind of cute to watch.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anybody that has done any amount of work in the pharma space would realize the goal in life is to avoid big pharma. The drugs are great, but I’m not so sure saddling yourself with that addiction is worth it.


Weird, I have spent my whole career working in pharma and I think these drugs are on par with vaccines for meaningfully changing health outcomes at the population level. So I guess not “anybody.”


The goal would still be to avoid all these interventions in the first instance.


We tried that, it was a failure. Every single method.


This is not universally true. Not everyone needs to resort to drugs to control their weight. The defeatist attitude about all this gets to be a little tired.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:because it is the wave of the future. Give it five years and I'll bet the drugs are easily available OTC and cheap and a significant portion of the population will be taking them.


And then we’ll see yet another increase of special needs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:because it is the wave of the future. Give it five years and I'll bet the drugs are easily available OTC and cheap and a significant portion of the population will be taking them.


And then we’ll see yet another increase of special needs.


lol wut
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Anonymous wrote:People are lazy and vain.


How many marathons have YOU run? Because I promise you I’m not the only multiple marathon finisher who’s on these meds because I’m at risk for serious health problems.


Did you run those marathons, or primarily walk them?


The poster used the word run.

Reading is fundamental.


If you're running (as opposed to "running") marathons and are obese, you're eating way, way, way too much. And eating way too much of the wrong foods.



And your point is what? Your revolution about calories in vs out is hardly groundbreaking.
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