Military recruiting woes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine the moral panic at Maret or Sidwell if a Marine recruiter showed up on campus.

Burning group chats!

My father went to Exeter and graduated from Harvard. He retired as a Colonel and had another career with the DOD and later as a consultant. One of his other Harvard friends retired as a Colonel. My brother served in the Air Force with a Harvard PhD. He left as a Captain before age 30.
You are really ignorant about the military, aren't you?

Your relatives didn’t enlist out of high school, dummy.

[Anonymous]

How about to any kind of civilian student loan forgiveness or free college scheme. Including states saying “X public university is free for people under Y income.” If you want any of that, you’re going to have to join the military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dad retired as a Lt Gen and we never knew his political leanings until after he retired - not even my mother. He said he served the president no matter who it was and never even voted while active duty.

I’ve noticed that the current young people are struggling more with this idea and with authority in general. Between that and the physical fitness issue, I’m not surprised it’s harder to find enough people to join now.

But yes, there have been other times that pilots were given bonuses to stay or not allowed to retire. Not news.

This is just insane. You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

[Anonymous]

You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

+1 spouse of retired military
Every post helps military obtain absentee ballots, if needed.

But, you should not share how you vote with others--especially if you are in a command position. Neither should teachers or anyone else in authority.

I'm amazed at some of the people who share their politics on twitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

+1 spouse of retired military
Every post helps military obtain absentee ballots, if needed.

But, you should not share how you vote with others--especially if you are in a command position. Neither should teachers or anyone else in authority.

I'm amazed at some of the people who share their politics on twitter.

Its called free speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

+1 spouse of retired military
Every post helps military obtain absentee ballots, if needed.

But, you should not share how you vote with others--especially if you are in a command position. Neither should teachers or anyone else in authority.

I'm amazed at some of the people who share their politics on twitter.

Its called free speech.

I believe in free speech--but some of the comments that teachers make on twitter are extremely divisive and offensive. It is especially troubling if they are sharing this with their students.
It is just not professional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

+1 spouse of retired military
Every post helps military obtain absentee ballots, if needed.

But, you should not share how you vote with others--especially if you are in a command position. Neither should teachers or anyone else in authority.

I'm amazed at some of the people who share their politics on twitter.

Its called free speech.

There are some restrictions on free speech if you're drawing a federal paycheck.

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/2208332/service-members-civilians-bound-by-dod-rules-during-election-campaigns/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about to any kind of civilian student loan forgiveness or free college scheme. Including states saying “X public university is free for people under Y income.” If you want any of that, you’re going to have to join the military.

I would support this if there was an option to choose military or peace corps or something like the old CCC. It shouldn’t just be armed forces but the idea is good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband thinks that if some form of military service was mandatory, there wouldn’t some many lost males.

+1
Former military here-I've seen lots of service members find their way in the military. It can provide purpose, structure, discipline, teamwork, teach physical fitness, and provide educational opportunities such as tuition assistance, GI Bill, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband thinks that if some form of military service was mandatory, there wouldn’t some many lost males.

+1
Former military here-I've seen lots of service members find their way in the military. It can provide purpose, structure, discipline, teamwork, teach physical fitness, and provide educational opportunities such as tuition assistance, GI Bill, etc.

In my experience it is the career military folks that least desire mandatory service. They would have to deal with more problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My dad retired as a Lt Gen and we never knew his political leanings until after he retired - not even my mother. He said he served the president no matter who it was and never even voted while active duty.

I’ve noticed that the current young people are struggling more with this idea and with authority in general. Between that and the physical fitness issue, I’m not surprised it’s harder to find enough people to join now.

But yes, there have been other times that pilots were given bonuses to stay or not allowed to retire. Not news.

This is just insane. You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

No, it’s smart if your goal is senior leadership. Zero optics of political influence. Level head. You serve the president regardless of who that person is.

If you’re just going to enlist for a few years, then it doesn’t matter as much.

There’s a problem with how tribal politics have become and if you think it’s not affecting the military, you are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband thinks that if some form of military service was mandatory, there wouldn’t some many lost males.

+1
Former military here-I've seen lots of service members find their way in the military. It can provide purpose, structure, discipline, teamwork, teach physical fitness, and provide educational opportunities such as tuition assistance, GI Bill, etc.

Agree. Purpose, community, connection, a paycheck, and health care. It’s changed a lot of lives for the better.

But mandatory service results in training people who aren’t interested too. And that comes with difficulties and risks. Especially now when so few young people respect authority and so many think they deserve the best of everything from the start of their careers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Time to reduce our military foot print in the world anyway. We cannot be the worlds military to the expense of our own country. Spend it on infrastructure and education instead.

That’s why Trump is the only option. Spend it shoring up social security and building up the United States. How is it that Trump has stolen the anti-war, anti big pharma, anti American oligarchy, pro blue collar political playing field? The Dems have been totally punked into being the unpopular warmongering establishment.

Trump was anti-pharma... lol.. thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/31/14453740/trump-medicare-prescription-drugs

After meeting with pharma lobbyists, Trump drops promise to negotiate drug prices

...But, but, but.. That's what Fox News told her! LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

+1 spouse of retired military
Every post helps military obtain absentee ballots, if needed.

But, you should not share how you vote with others--especially if you are in a command position. Neither should teachers or anyone else in authority.

I'm amazed at some of the people who share their politics on twitter.

Its called free speech.

You have ZERO understanding of the military. Or free speech.

Here’s the kind of guy who should tweet info risking OPSEC and think he has the right to free speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My dad retired as a Lt Gen and we never knew his political leanings until after he retired - not even my mother. He said he served the president no matter who it was and never even voted while active duty.

I’ve noticed that the current young people are struggling more with this idea and with authority in general. Between that and the physical fitness issue, I’m not surprised it’s harder to find enough people to join now.

But yes, there have been other times that pilots were given bonuses to stay or not allowed to retire. Not news.

This is just insane. You should vote for the person who's going to be your boss, as well as for political issues that shape your country (and I'm former military).

No, it’s smart if your goal is senior leadership. Zero optics of political influence. Level head. You serve the president regardless of who that person is.

If you’re just going to enlist for a few years, then it doesn’t matter as much.

There’s a problem with how tribal politics have become and if you think it’s not affecting the military, you are part of the problem.

You're responding to a statement about VOTING. Voting does not equal tribal politics.