TJ Decisions are Out

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

It’s not good to have middle schools with concentrated poverty. If this new admissions system incentivizes families to spread out more, good.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has lost about 20 freshmen and sophomores admitted under the new system this year. Seems like larger attrition than in the past.

They lost 70+ students and counting in the class of 2025. They really messed up the admissions process.

Bring back teacher recommendations at least.

That's a lie. FCPS profiles show real-time enrollment. TJ started this year with 1971 and now have 1952 - a loss of 19 students. In 2018, they started with 1781 and had 1766 by March of 2019 - a loss of 16 students. There is nothing out of the ordinary happening this year. This is all public info from FCPS profiles.

Exactly, the pro-prep posters have always tried to manipulate the facts in the hope of returning to gameable process.

My favorite lie is the county's push for diversity using a race-blind selection process which is laughable. It's a matter of law.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

DP. I think a lot of us realize that you constantly push a very one-sided narrative for political reasons that have little to do with which students have the most STEM aptitude. It’s all clowns like Scott Surovell, Ricardy Anderson, and Karen Corbett Sanders have ever brought to the table - they do nothing to improve the other schools in their districts, but they’re great at stoking class-based resentment and anti-Asian bias.

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It’s not good to have middle schools with concentrated poverty. If this new admissions system incentivizes families to spread out more, good.

Because the admissions process isn’t necessarily leading to predictable results, and the downside is getting stuck at a low-achieving high school, it likely has exactly the opposite effect and encourages families to move to the top pyramids. Their kids still have a shot at TJ, even if not as great as before, but TJ isn’t as appealing as it used to be and they’ve hedged the downside of getting denied admission by having moved into a strong pyramid.

Welcome to the laws of unintended consequences. It turns out people’s behavior often can’t be manipulated in the ways that School Board members would like.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

DP. I think a lot of us realize that you constantly push a very one-sided narrative for political reasons that have little to do with which students have the most STEM aptitude. It’s all clowns like Scott Surovell, Ricardy Anderson, and Karen Corbett Sanders have ever brought to the table - they do nothing to improve the other schools in their districts, but they’re great at stoking class-based resentment and anti-Asian bias.

Even more of us realize you've been constantly pushing this narrative to stoke grievances based on false assumptions. Believing that the best and brightest are only at the most affluent schools is nonsense. If left to you, advantaged students would gain outsized access to these programs because money matters more than merit.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

Agree, insisting that privilege equates to merit is getting tiresome.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

DP. I think a lot of us realize that you constantly push a very one-sided narrative for political reasons that have little to do with which students have the most STEM aptitude. It’s all clowns like Scott Surovell, Ricardy Anderson, and Karen Corbett Sanders have ever brought to the table - they do nothing to improve the other schools in their districts, but they’re great at stoking class-based resentment and anti-Asian bias.

Even more of us realize you've been constantly pushing this narrative to stoke grievances based on false assumptions. Believing that the best and brightest are only at the most affluent schools is nonsense. If left to you, advantaged students would gain outsized access to these programs because money matters more than merit.

The record shows that School Board members openly talked about “redefining merit” to get the results they felt would best serve their political agendas.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

Agree, insisting that privilege equates to merit is getting tiresome.

It seems your commitment to tokenism outweighs any real interest in lifting up the low-performing schools that 98.5% of the kids in the less affluent areas will attend.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

Agree, insisting that privilege equates to merit is getting tiresome.

It seems your commitment to tokenism outweighs any real interest in lifting up the low-performing schools that 98.5% of the kids in the less affluent areas will attend.

On the contrary, I'm just tired of your insistence that Prep equates to IQ or that buying test answers equals to merit.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

DP. I think a lot of us realize that you constantly push a very one-sided narrative for political reasons that have little to do with which students have the most STEM aptitude. It’s all clowns like Scott Surovell, Ricardy Anderson, and Karen Corbett Sanders have ever brought to the table - they do nothing to improve the other schools in their districts, but they’re great at stoking class-based resentment and anti-Asian bias.

Even more of us realize you've been constantly pushing this narrative to stoke grievances based on false assumptions. Believing that the best and brightest are only at the most affluent schools is nonsense. If left to you, advantaged students would gain outsized access to these programs because money matters more than merit.

The record shows that School Board members openly talked about “redefining merit” to get the results they felt would best serve their political agendas.

Provide a citation for this. I don't buy it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

DP. I think a lot of us realize that you constantly push a very one-sided narrative for political reasons that have little to do with which students have the most STEM aptitude. It’s all clowns like Scott Surovell, Ricardy Anderson, and Karen Corbett Sanders have ever brought to the table - they do nothing to improve the other schools in their districts, but they’re great at stoking class-based resentment and anti-Asian bias.

Even more of us realize you've been constantly pushing this narrative to stoke grievances based on false assumptions. Believing that the best and brightest are only at the most affluent schools is nonsense. If left to you, advantaged students would gain outsized access to these programs because money matters more than merit.

The record shows that School Board members openly talked about “redefining merit” to get the results they felt would best serve their political agendas.

Provide a citation for this. I don't buy it.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/tjpapers/

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

Agree, insisting that privilege equates to merit is getting tiresome.

It seems your commitment to tokenism outweighs any real interest in lifting up the low-performing schools that 98.5% of the kids in the less affluent areas will attend.

On the contrary, I'm just tired of your insistence that Prep equates to IQ or that buying test answers equals to merit.

#backdoorKaren

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

DP. I think a lot of us realize that you constantly push a very one-sided narrative for political reasons that have little to do with which students have the most STEM aptitude. It’s all clowns like Scott Surovell, Ricardy Anderson, and Karen Corbett Sanders have ever brought to the table - they do nothing to improve the other schools in their districts, but they’re great at stoking class-based resentment and anti-Asian bias.

Even more of us realize you've been constantly pushing this narrative to stoke grievances based on false assumptions. Believing that the best and brightest are only at the most affluent schools is nonsense. If left to you, advantaged students would gain outsized access to these programs because money matters more than merit.

The record shows that School Board members openly talked about “redefining merit” to get the results they felt would best serve their political agendas.

Provide a citation for this. I don't buy it.

https://defendinged.org/incidents/tjpapers/

It looks like this was cherry picked and presented out of context to create a false narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.

Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80

So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?

The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.

Oh come on. It’s not that a school has dumber students but it’s accurate to say that 100% under this new quote policy, it becomes, in part, not about obtaining the best of the best but obtaining the best of those who apply from each school. Higher performing kids from places like Cooper will be booted out while very possibly lower performing kids from a lower SES school will be admitted. That’s bc of the quota system. It is NOT about the best kids in the area.

Except for 1 PP who keeps trying to argue otherwise, most people understand this. It’s just a difference of opinion about whether that change is a good thing or not. On my view I think it is so a small handful of MSs aren’t getting the overwhelming share of seats still.

You mean the 1 poster who pushes this elitist narrative by sock puppets their own posts? Most of us are aware that intelligence isn't limited to the wealthiest schools but the privilege is...

Agree, insisting that privilege equates to merit is getting tiresome.

It seems your commitment to tokenism outweighs any real interest in lifting up the low-performing schools that 98.5% of the kids in the less affluent areas will attend.

On the contrary, I'm just tired of your insistence that Prep equates to IQ or that buying test answers equals to merit.

There's definitely a poster here who has got their panties in a bunch over the admission changes. They are especially angry that they can't game admission like the good old days.