Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Posse commitatus

Nice try! These poster’s don’t have a clue what that means and haven spent 1 minute in the military.

No, you don't have a clue. If you've spent a minute in the military you should have learned the huge differences between the National Guard and active duty (including reserves).

Posse Comitatus has been mentioned at least three times in this thread but no one seems to have bothered to go and LEARN about what it means.

This is especially frustrating since the Jan 6th riot and all the discussion about what the "military" did or didn't do.

Yet here we are. People are still using the term "military" in a generic sense with no damn idea how the National Guard is used and who has authority and how the active duty/reserves is used and who has authority.

Having been in the military I do not want regular active duty, active duty reservist/natural guard or reservists/NG any where near a school with a loaded weapons.

That said how would this work? Take Virginia 2,109 elementary school and 623 high schools. Maybe a platoon at the elementary schools and a company at the high schools…maybe more because they would have to search every person entering, patrol and still have perimeter security? The units involved would have to be infantry or MP’s. So you are talking about just under 200k without support and administration just for Virginia. Virginia NG is how big?

Now you are just embarrassing yourself and it's obvious you never served a day in your life. There is no such thing as an active duty "natural" guard nor is there a reservist/"natural" guard. As well as b.s.ing about your service, you've also demonstrated your ignorance because anyone who knows about Posse Comitatus knows what it means. Suggest you spend less time trying to insert yourself into subjects you know nothing about, and do some research on how the U.S. military and National Guard is structured and governed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posse commitatus

Nice try! These poster’s don’t have a clue what that means and haven spent 1 minute in the military.

No, you don't have a clue. If you've spent a minute in the military you should have learned the huge differences between the National Guard and active duty (including reserves).

Posse Comitatus has been mentioned at least three times in this thread but no one seems to have bothered to go and LEARN about what it means.

This is especially frustrating since the Jan 6th riot and all the discussion about what the "military" did or didn't do.

Yet here we are. People are still using the term "military" in a generic sense with no damn idea how the National Guard is used and who has authority and how the active duty/reserves is used and who has authority.

Having been in the military I do not want regular active duty, active duty reservist/natural guard or reservists/NG any where near a school with a loaded weapons.

That said how would this work? Take Virginia 2,109 elementary school and 623 high schools. Maybe a platoon at the elementary schools and a company at the high schools…maybe more because they would have to search every person entering, patrol and still have perimeter security? The units involved would have to be infantry or MP’s. So you are talking about just under 200k without support and administration just for Virginia. Virginia NG is how big?

That would add up to way more than 200K.
I agree with a pp--you have not served in the military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.

Stop feeding the trolls please.

+1

OP is a notorious troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posse commitatus

Nice try! These poster’s don’t have a clue what that means and haven spent 1 minute in the military.

No, you don't have a clue. If you've spent a minute in the military you should have learned the huge differences between the National Guard and active duty (including reserves).

Posse Comitatus has been mentioned at least three times in this thread but no one seems to have bothered to go and LEARN about what it means.

This is especially frustrating since the Jan 6th riot and all the discussion about what the "military" did or didn't do.

Yet here we are. People are still using the term "military" in a generic sense with no damn idea how the National Guard is used and who has authority and how the active duty/reserves is used and who has authority.

Having been in the military I do not want regular active duty, active duty reservist/natural guard or reservists/NG any where near a school with a loaded weapons.

That said how would this work? Take Virginia 2,109 elementary school and 623 high schools. Maybe a platoon at the elementary schools and a company at the high schools…maybe more because they would have to search every person entering, patrol and still have perimeter security? The units involved would have to be infantry or MP’s. So you are talking about just under 200k without support and administration just for Virginia. Virginia NG is how big?

Now you are just embarrassing yourself and it's obvious you never served a day in your life. There is no such thing as an active duty "natural" guard nor is there a reservist/"natural" guard. As well as b.s.ing about your service, you've also demonstrated your ignorance because anyone who knows about Posse Comitatus knows what it means. Suggest you spend less time trying to insert yourself into subjects you know nothing about, and do some research on how the U.S. military and National Guard is structured and governed.

You are an idiot and have never served a day in your life. You are on a mommy board trying hard but can not even put together a coherent argument. Just go back to pushing paper around and thinking you served.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posse commitatus

Nice try! These poster’s don’t have a clue what that means and haven spent 1 minute in the military.

No, you don't have a clue. If you've spent a minute in the military you should have learned the huge differences between the National Guard and active duty (including reserves).

Posse Comitatus has been mentioned at least three times in this thread but no one seems to have bothered to go and LEARN about what it means.

This is especially frustrating since the Jan 6th riot and all the discussion about what the "military" did or didn't do.

Yet here we are. People are still using the term "military" in a generic sense with no damn idea how the National Guard is used and who has authority and how the active duty/reserves is used and who has authority.

Having been in the military I do not want regular active duty, active duty reservist/natural guard or reservists/NG any where near a school with a loaded weapons.

That said how would this work? Take Virginia 2,109 elementary school and 623 high schools. Maybe a platoon at the elementary schools and a company at the high schools…maybe more because they would have to search every person entering, patrol and still have perimeter security? The units involved would have to be infantry or MP’s. So you are talking about just under 200k without support and administration just for Virginia. Virginia NG is how big?

That would add up to way more than 200K.
I agree with a pp--you have not served in the military.

You do not read very well do you? 200k without support. We all can tell you were in the military because of you attention to details…. You S4 types

[Anonymous]

The statistical likelihood of a plane hijacking is tiny. And yet, TSA, no fly lists, etc.

Because we value commerce.

No, we have the TSA because people got scared and over-reacted and were willing to give up their essential, Constitutionally protected rights in the name of possibly increased security. Even the TSA's own statistics show that it is remarkably ineffective at its mission.

As for schools, we tried having on-campus police presence, and that failed miserably at preventing school shootings (look at the Douglas school shooting in Florida, for example, where the on-campus cop essentially did nothing during the entire event).

As noted above, this (school shootings) is statistically unlikely to happen and is not really worth worrying about. If we really wanted to save the most lives per dollar, we would be investing in research on heart disease. Note that I am not trying to justify school shootings--just state that we have limited resources and that we should apply them in the most effective way possible. And we shouldn't create a culture of fear and make children afraid to go to school.

[Anonymous]

This is a horrible premise. We should not be militarizing for lack of responsible gun policy. It's ABSOLUTELY wrong and only continues to send us in a wrong direction.

[Anonymous]

It's been amazing how many Republicans who oppose doing anything about school shootings, when asked about where they send their kids, say "homeschool" or "private school" or some other non-public schooling.

They don't give a sht because they think it doesn't and won't affect them. They are content to throw millions of other peoples' kids under the bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The statistical likelihood of a plane hijacking is tiny. And yet, TSA, no fly lists, etc.

Because we value commerce.

No, we have the TSA because people got scared and over-reacted and were willing to give up their essential, Constitutionally protected rights in the name of possibly increased security. . . . .

As noted above, this (school shootings) is statistically unlikely to happen and is not really worth worrying about. If we really wanted to save the most lives per dollar, we would be investing in research on heart disease. Note that I am not trying to justify school shootings--just state that we have limited resources and that we should apply them in the most effective way possible. And we shouldn't create a culture of fear and make children afraid to go to school.

The voice of reason emerges.

Everyone: use your brain. PP has laid this out for everyone.

In contrast, op is a fear-mongering troll. She is trying to spread terror. If only there were a name for someone who resorts to terror in order to force their opinion on others . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a horrible premise. We should not be militarizing for lack of responsible gun policy. It's ABSOLUTELY wrong and only continues to send us in a wrong direction.

What exact "responsible gun policy", if in place, would have prevented these school shootings?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a horrible premise. We should not be militarizing for lack of responsible gun policy. It's ABSOLUTELY wrong and only continues to send us in a wrong direction.

What exact "responsible gun policy", if in place, would have prevented these school shootings?

Have you read any of this thread at all? Numerous posters have made suggestions, have mentioned proposals that went nowhere due to Republican obstruction.

What reasonable gun policies do you have to offer that would actually help solve the problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.

Stop feeding the trolls please.

+1

OP is a notorious troll.

Yep, as are many others based on the responses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Statistically, this kind of event, while horrible, is very, very far down on the list of things any of us need to worry about or plan for. The fear you feel comes from inside your head, not from any significant danger to you or your kids.

I don't think you understand statistics.

No, this person is correct. It’s about as likely as dying by lightning strike. Now, we still warn people not to stand out in open fields during a storm, and we should still take reasonable measures to ensure that zero children die in a school shooting. But living in fear as if this is a likely occurrence is not warranted.

There is something deeply wrong with those of you that choose to normalize mass shootings of children.

If Sandy Hook did not prompt us to get our house in order, nothing will. I accept the reality underwhich we live due to gun nuts. As long as at least half the population (more or less) votes R I have to fear for my children, whether it's getting shot at school or being denied needed reproductive care.

I have to find ways to cope and to work around their madness. One approach is those "safe rooms" you may have seen recently that create a bullet proof area inside the classroom. Another might be the Reserrves on site. Sad, terrible, reminds me of "third world" places I've vistied but, I'm not living in a fantasy here.

Fck that. I'm not giving in. That's insanity.

Israel does that and many jewish schools do that. Its not giving in to defend yourself.

Do you have a link to that? Because I don't think you really have any idea what day to day life looks like in most of Israel.