What's the stigma: Colleges with a high number of kids from your HS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"13th grade/year" is an expression used by people who want to disparage state schools that are popular among students. They usually use that term because their kids didn't get in and they have a huge chip on their shoulder that they just can't shake. No matter that these schools are all large and there is next to zero chance of randomly running into someone from high school.

In other words, it's a form of face-saving. Disparaging the school(s) that didn't accept your kids. Very typical for DCUM.

Maybe this but it could also be a way to poke at those that seem to remain within the same bubble that they grew up in. All this talk about diversity but there is something to geographic diversity as well.

This is it exactly. Same people. Same dramas. Different school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"13th grade/year" is an expression used by people who want to disparage state schools that are popular among students. They usually use that term because their kids didn't get in and they have a huge chip on their shoulder that they just can't shake. No matter that these schools are all large and there is next to zero chance of randomly running into someone from high school.

In other words, it's a form of face-saving. Disparaging the school(s) that didn't accept your kids. Very typical for DCUM.

Maybe this but it could also be a way to poke at those that seem to remain within the same bubble that they grew up in. All this talk about diversity but there is something to geographic diversity as well.

This is it exactly. Same people. Same dramas. Different school.

I can understand this being the case at a small school, but at a large state univ? There are so many people there, you aren't going to only see/interact with people from your own HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand "13th grade"

Just saw this recently in one of the threads.

Why is it seen as a bad thing here at DCUM?

(I grew up overseas where this isn't a bad thing.. in fact, it was seen as a good thing)

It's a cultural thing in the US, especially in the upper middle classes I think. Part of the idea of going away to college is leaving your home town, and living elsewhere, especially at a private school in New England, more like going to boarding school. You go away, meet students of high intellectual caliber, and get away from the "locals".

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at a state U where lots of classmates go. He only sees the couple close friends he makes a point of seeing. It wasn't an issue for him at all. My DD prefers schools where she won't run into HS friends. Either way is fine. However, I have encouraged my son to do study abroad, in part, to really get out of his comfort zone.

This is essentially what college should be all about - growth and exploration. It can be achieved anywhere of course but attending school beyond your home state is a significant step towards that goal.

+1

DH and I both decided against top state schools, many years ago, for this very reason. Not much has changed. College is about growing, not staying in one place.

Mmkay. So kids from Maryland go to California and kids from Colorado go to Massachusetts, and the economy gets a little boost from all of that OOS tuition money but how exactly does anyone benefit from swapping their kids across the country? My teens have traveled all over the country and have been abroad several times and we all love to travel. But if a world class institution happens to be right down the block and incredibly practical and inexpensive… I think that’s called luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"13th grade/year" is an expression used by people who want to disparage state schools that are popular among students. They usually use that term because their kids didn't get in and they have a huge chip on their shoulder that they just can't shake. No matter that these schools are all large and there is next to zero chance of randomly running into someone from high school.

In other words, it's a form of face-saving. Disparaging the school(s) that didn't accept your kids. Very typical for DCUM.

Maybe this but it could also be a way to poke at those that seem to remain within the same bubble that they grew up in. All this talk about diversity but there is something to geographic diversity as well.

Sure, but there is also geographic diversity (among other types) within the state universities. You could send your kid to Michigan, or UCLA, or what have you, and they'd still be among basically the same types of kids. And there's always grad school and/or jobs to experience living elsewhere. Where you go to college doesn't determine where you'll live for the rest of your life.

Actually, a lot of times it does!

And it often does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a ridiculous concern. The number of kids from your high school that you’d meet at college is minuscule.

Exactly. It's just a way for certain people to put down those who choose to attend state schools. They want everyone to know how much more "worldly" they/their kid is. Meanwhile, most kids do at least a semester abroad and/or graduate and move all over the country for jobs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand "13th grade"

Just saw this recently in one of the threads.

Why is it seen as a bad thing here at DCUM?

(I grew up overseas where this isn't a bad thing.. in fact, it was seen as a good thing)

It is exactly why most area kids do not want to attend state schools (UVA, VT, WM, UMD) - they want to feel they have lived someone else, and had varying experiences (other than say, spending summer vacations with their grandparents).

This made me laugh. Right, "most kids" in this area are all vying for seats at those very schools. Nice try, though!
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand "13th grade"

Just saw this recently in one of the threads.

Why is it seen as a bad thing here at DCUM?

(I grew up overseas where this isn't a bad thing.. in fact, it was seen as a good thing)

It is exactly why most area kids do not want to attend state schools (UVA, VT, WM, UMD) - they want to feel they have lived someone else, and had varying experiences (other than say, spending summer vacations with their grandparents).

couldn't they do that by looking for a job out of the area?

Yep. My VA state school grad is currently interviewing on the west coast. The assumptions here are so absurd, as usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"13th grade/year" is an expression used by people who want to disparage state schools that are popular among students. They usually use that term because their kids didn't get in and they have a huge chip on their shoulder that they just can't shake. No matter that these schools are all large and there is next to zero chance of randomly running into someone from high school.

In other words, it's a form of face-saving. Disparaging the school(s) that didn't accept your kids. Very typical for DCUM.

Maybe this but it could also be a way to poke at those that seem to remain within the same bubble that they grew up in. All this talk about diversity but there is something to geographic diversity as well.

+1

35+ years ago, my HS class of 460 had about 75% going to college. I think there were ~5 of us that left the state. Everyone else stayed in state and still lives in state, most within 20 mins of their family home growing up. The 5 of us have lived all over the USA and just come back to visit

And...? You are so much more special than those who went to school in state? Do you have any inkling how you come across? You can still travel far and wide while living close to home. People choose to do that when they live in an area conducive to raising families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you hang out with the same people you did in HS while going to a state school in a different area of the state where you live, that gives you a different feel than your hometown.

MD and VA both have state schools in very different parts of the state. ODU is near the water, VCU is in a city, JMU, VT and Radford are in the mountains.

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My DC is having a grand time exploring one of those areas. She and her (NEW!) friends go on adventure outings every weekend. It is nothing like her home, here in NoVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pros and cons depends on situations and kids.

My kids are introverts, but still adventurous and and want to explorer.

VA schools went bottom of the list.

x1000000

All of my kids said an emphatic NO to Northern Virginia High School 2.0.

My son said he ran into a couple of people he knew from HS but they were not friends at school and still no friends in college...

With colleges in VA with 20,000+ students how can you possibly call it Virginia High School 2.0? Besides, Northern VA is pretty diverse.

This. The only way you'd see people from high school is at a small school. No one is randomly running into these people at large schools. So silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"13th grade/year" is an expression used by people who want to disparage state schools that are popular among students. They usually use that term because their kids didn't get in and they have a huge chip on their shoulder that they just can't shake. No matter that these schools are all large and there is next to zero chance of randomly running into someone from high school.

In other words, it's a form of face-saving. Disparaging the school(s) that didn't accept your kids. Very typical for DCUM.

Maybe this but it could also be a way to poke at those that seem to remain within the same bubble that they grew up in. All this talk about diversity but there is something to geographic diversity as well.

This is it exactly. Same people. Same dramas. Different school.

I can understand this being the case at a small school, but at a large state univ? There are so many people there, you aren't going to only see/interact with people from your own HS.

Even if they didn't go to the same HS the majority will have had very similar experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"13th grade/year" is an expression used by people who want to disparage state schools that are popular among students. They usually use that term because their kids didn't get in and they have a huge chip on their shoulder that they just can't shake. No matter that these schools are all large and there is next to zero chance of randomly running into someone from high school.

In other words, it's a form of face-saving. Disparaging the school(s) that didn't accept your kids. Very typical for DCUM.

Maybe this but it could also be a way to poke at those that seem to remain within the same bubble that they grew up in. All this talk about diversity but there is something to geographic diversity as well.

This is it exactly. Same people. Same dramas. Different school.

I can understand this being the case at a small school, but at a large state univ? There are so many people there, you aren't going to only see/interact with people from your own HS.

Even if they didn't go to the same HS the majority will have had very similar experiences.

depends on the school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand "13th grade"

Just saw this recently in one of the threads.

Why is it seen as a bad thing here at DCUM?

(I grew up overseas where this isn't a bad thing.. in fact, it was seen as a good thing)

It is exactly why most area kids do not want to attend state schools (UVA, VT, WM, UMD) - they want to feel they have lived someone else, and had varying experiences (other than say, spending summer vacations with their grandparents).

This made me laugh. Right, "most kids" in this area are all vying for seats at those very schools. Nice try, though!
DP

Probably because "most kids" can't afford other options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand "13th grade"

Just saw this recently in one of the threads.

Why is it seen as a bad thing here at DCUM?

(I grew up overseas where this isn't a bad thing.. in fact, it was seen as a good thing)

It is exactly why most area kids do not want to attend state schools (UVA, VT, WM, UMD) - they want to feel they have lived someone else, and had varying experiences (other than say, spending summer vacations with their grandparents).

couldn't they do that by looking for a job out of the area?

Yep. My VA state school grad is currently interviewing on the west coast. The assumptions here are so absurd, as usual.

What % of VA state school graduates end up working in VA or the DC area?