What is the future of heterosexual dating when the number of men attending college continues to drop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Do you know "most women"? Did you ask them? Maybe you can speak for women in your social circle, but not "most women".

I think you're premise is flawed.

There’s this thing, you see, called statistics and surveys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Number 2 is spot on— every married person I know has told me that if their marriage ended, they’d never do the marriage thing again and it’s still perplexing how non married people out of college hold marriage on a pedestal, but if they’d had conversations with anyone that’s been married, their tune would change.

Women of previous generations were told if you want kids you have to get married. Many women want kids so they get married because they have to. This is no longer true.

Also, women found having a husband did not necessarily make raising kids easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Some, not many. Only 2% or so of the population is gay.

Among Gen Z, it’s 21%. Bringing the overall percentage to 7%.

BuT iT's NaTuRe, NoT nUtUrE!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Go outside, touch grass, turn off your computer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a huge issue. Not just because of the college but the lack of manners towards women and the lack of work ethic. Peter Pan syndrome all over.

So many men all over the internet. I’m not sure if I want to have kids or feel comfortable with them. I simply don’t understand this comment. You were a kid. People have kids all over the world. It’s a projection of something else

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Meant that a lot of men on the internet say they aren't sure if they want to have kids. And they are 35 plus at this time saying this. I don't understand their angst. They were children once. People have children all over the world without the means we have in America. It just seems strange this would be such a source of anxiety for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Number 2 is spot on— every married person I know has told me that if their marriage ended, they’d never do the marriage thing again and it’s still perplexing how non married people out of college hold marriage on a pedestal, but if they’d had conversations with anyone that’s been married, their tune would change.

Women of previous generations were told if you want kids you have to get married. Many women want kids so they get married because they have to. This is no longer true.

Also, women found having a husband did not necessarily make raising kids easier.

Fatherlessness kids are a menace on society. This data holds true even when they’re raised by a high-income woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is 70-80% of men voted for trump so dating is slim anyway.

LOL! No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

As a woman, I would never, ever, date a car dealer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Number 2 is spot on— every married person I know has told me that if their marriage ended, they’d never do the marriage thing again and it’s still perplexing how non married people out of college hold marriage on a pedestal, but if they’d had conversations with anyone that’s been married, their tune would change.

Women of previous generations were told if you want kids you have to get married. Many women want kids so they get married because they have to. This is no longer true.

Also, women found having a husband did not necessarily make raising kids easier.

Fatherlessness kids are a menace on society. This data holds true even when they’re raised by a high-income woman.

Oh really? Please screenshot your Sociology PhD and cite your sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Do you know "most women"? Did you ask them? Maybe you can speak for women in your social circle, but not "most women".

I think you're premise is flawed.

There’s this thing, you see, called statistics and surveys.

OK, smartass, point me to the study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

As a woman, I would never, ever, date a car dealer.

Exhibit A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Humans are generally pretty realistic about calculating where they will need to settle to find a mate. It will work itself out.

The nonsense about polygamy or a subset of men dating all the women is of course nonsense. The vast majority of people want normal traditional relationships and male educational attainment certainly isn’t enough to shake that.

It’s not at all nonsense – it’s very well-documented that this is what’s happening right now, not even at some point in the future, with online dating.

Because women generally have unreasonable dating standards (the college degree example in this thread being one of them), they only swipe right on the top 10-20% of men. So you have something approaching 100% of eligible women contacting 10-20% of all eligible men and ignoring the other 80-90%. This is a bonanza for the top-tier men and gives them no incentive to stick to only one woman. Hence all the complaints from women about the dating pool being only comprised of losers and players.

Women are essentially shooting themselves in the foot by clinging to such unreasonable standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a huge issue. Not just because of the college but the lack of manners towards women and the lack of work ethic. Peter Pan syndrome all over.

So many men all over the internet. I’m not sure if I want to have kids or feel comfortable with them. I simply don’t understand this comment. You were a kid. People have kids all over the world. It’s a projection of something else

?

Meant that a lot of men on the internet say they aren't sure if they want to have kids. And they are 35 plus at this time saying this. I don't understand their angst. They were children once. People have children all over the world without the means we have in America. It just seems strange this would be such a source of anxiety for them.

They suck at it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Some, not many. Only 2% or so of the population is gay.

Among Gen Z, it’s 21%. Bringing the overall percentage to 7%.

LOL. Gen X had its share of four-year lesbians too. Most of those ended up with their MRS degree in the end.

Certainly wasn’t 21%.

Most of that 21% is self identified bisexual. I think there are a lot more bisexual Gen X than you know about. They just don't go around telling people because they married opposite sex partners. More people feeling comfortable coming out and admitting yes, I'm attracted by both men and women instead of hiding is good for society. People act like this is some travesty. The travesty are the straight people telling queer people that they need to live a straight life to be happy and so that they won't be discriminated against. Gay people have kids these days too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Humans are generally pretty realistic about calculating where they will need to settle to find a mate. It will work itself out.

The nonsense about polygamy or a subset of men dating all the women is of course nonsense. The vast majority of people want normal traditional relationships and male educational attainment certainly isn’t enough to shake that.

It’s not at all nonsense – it’s very well-documented that this is what’s happening right now, not even at some point in the future, with online dating.

Because women generally have unreasonable dating standards (the college degree example in this thread being one of them), they only swipe right on the top 10-20% of men. So you have something approaching 100% of eligible women contacting 10-20% of all eligible men and ignoring the other 80-90%. This is a bonanza for the top-tier men and gives them no incentive to stick to only one woman. Hence all the complaints from women about the dating pool being only comprised of losers and players.

Women are essentially shooting themselves in the foot by clinging to such unreasonable standards.

While a college degree is more common in women than men in today's graduates, it's not that much off balance that a large number of women with degrees can't find a man with a degree. The real limiting factor comes when someone is looking for specific rare subgroups within subgroups. Like if someone is looking for a Jewish dentist or doctor that's 6' tall, never married, no kids with anyone else, and under 35. Suddenly there's like 3 people in the country and a thousand women trying to date them. And one of them is probably gay.