Do any other teachers here hate “Leader in Me”?

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


Your source is FORBES? Your lack of critical thinking ability would be hilarious if it weren’t so damn sad.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


So someone drank the kool-aid at forbes and that somehow makes your point valid? Nah....try again!


One person and twenty-five million others in thirty-eight languages


What a pathetic shill you are.
Anonymous
LCPS is also doing something like this and it is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME and inequitable. Someone needs to investigate who is making these types of purchases!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



Covey is insipid, pop psych, business lite garbage. Sorry you drank the Kool-Aid. Keep it far away from our kids.


Even in the business world the people
Who love the seven habits are usually the dumb ones. Personally I hate the whole philosophy of leadership and teaching people how to be leaders. Lots of really smart people are introverts and thinkers. Not leaders. It is weird how we always seem to reward the loudest most annoying person in the Erin in America.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



Covey is insipid, pop psych, business lite garbage. Sorry you drank the Kool-Aid. Keep it far away from our kids.


Even in the business world the people
Who love the seven habits are usually the dumb ones. Personally I hate the whole philosophy of leadership and teaching people how to be leaders. Lots of really smart people are introverts and thinkers. Not leaders. It is weird how we always seem to reward the loudest most annoying person in the Erin in America.


Lol! I hate the concept of leaders? Omg! Our children have no chance, thank god coaches teach this instead of teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


So someone drank the kool-aid at forbes and that somehow makes your point valid? Nah....try again!


One person and twenty-five million others in thirty-eight languages


Are you getting paid by the line? What a joke...Everyone here is echoing how terrible it is. You're not gonna win.


All 3 of you … sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



Covey is insipid, pop psych, business lite garbage. Sorry you drank the Kool-Aid. Keep it far away from our kids.


Even in the business world the people
Who love the seven habits are usually the dumb ones. Personally I hate the whole philosophy of leadership and teaching people how to be leaders. Lots of really smart people are introverts and thinkers. Not leaders. It is weird how we always seem to reward the loudest most annoying person in the Erin in America.


You know there's an 8th habit they try to keep secret and limited to an exclusive group?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:LCPS is also doing something like this and it is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME and inequitable. Someone needs to investigate who is making these types of purchases!


Not sure how LCPS works, but nobody in MCPS is ever held accountable for bad decisions.

MCPS can waste as much taxpayer money as it wants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.


Most of the kids need SEL, just not this program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


Loving this because I’m a former English teacher who currently teaches math. Teachers are expected to be able to teach every subject- this tells me you definitely are not a teacher. You’re probably someone who bought into the 7 habits (I hope you get better soon)


DP.

Not at the secondary level. Most of us have a four year degree or even grad degree in our content area. I have no trouble admitting that I should not teach Math or ELA. MCPS doesn’t ask me to teach math but decided about a decade ago that everyone should teach reading and writing in order to boost scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.


Most of the kids need SEL, just not this program.


That's weird everyone at our school really loved it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.


Most of the kids need SEL, just not this program.


That's weird everyone at our school really loved it.


I think this poster is being provocative. Enjoys getting other posters riled up. I don't think they have anything to do with Leader in Me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



Covey is insipid, pop psych, business lite garbage. Sorry you drank the Kool-Aid. Keep it far away from our kids.


Even in the business world the people
Who love the seven habits are usually the dumb ones. Personally I hate the whole philosophy of leadership and teaching people how to be leaders. Lots of really smart people are introverts and thinkers. Not leaders. It is weird how we always seem to reward the loudest most annoying person in the Erin in America.


Lol! I hate the concept of leaders? Omg! Our children have no chance, thank god coaches teach this instead of teachers.


Teachers teach this insipid curriculum with ease. It’s insultingly easy to teach actually. Zero coaches necessary.
Anonymous
I think the reality is that teachers are not therapists or leadership trainers. Almost all of these types programs will not be successful for this reason. Many if not most teachers and students resent being put in this position, especially if it is apparent that they are being used just to make admin look good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?


First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.


Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.



You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.


Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7


There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.


Most of the kids need SEL, just not this program.


That's weird everyone at our school really loved it.


I think this poster is being provocative. Enjoys getting other posters riled up. I don't think they have anything to do with Leader in Me.


Really? I think it's the opposite. The people all bent out of shape about this program seem unhinged to me.
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