Do any other teachers here hate “Leader in Me”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

So someone drank the kool-aid at forbes and that somehow makes your point valid? Nah....try again!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

Nope just see teachers who are good at what they are good at and completely out of their element when it comes to leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

So someone drank the kool-aid at forbes and that somehow makes your point valid? Nah....try again!

One person and twenty-five million others in thirty-eight languages

[Anonymous]

This is our second year with it in my elementary school. It's awful and definitely cult-like. I don't even teach it for the most part. Once a week I might grab a lesson out of it that doesn't seem too stupid and I'll do that with my kids. For the most part, I prefer to focus our SEL and morning meeting time on topics that are important to the students in that moment. For example, problem-solving an issue that keeps occurring in class or helping them through friendship issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

Nope just see teachers who are good at what they are good at and completely out of their element when it comes to leadership.

This is how we all know you're full of sh*t.. LIM is hardly leadership. Everyone and anyone with a brain knows this. You're just so sad and pathetic to buy into this cult-nonsense. Truly, I hope you get better soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

So someone drank the kool-aid at forbes and that somehow makes your point valid? Nah....try again!

One person and twenty-five million others in thirty-eight languages

Are you getting paid by the line? What a joke...Everyone here is echoing how terrible it is. You're not gonna win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

Nope just see teachers who are good at what they are good at and completely out of their element when it comes to leadership.

The program seems fine so that leaves one or two possibilities, but if I were to bet, I'd go with it's one or two fixated posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

Nope just see teachers who are good at what they are good at and completely out of their element when it comes to leadership.

The program seems fine so that leaves one or two possibilities, but if I were to bet, I'd go with it's one or two fixated posters.

The DCUM Way!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

Nope just see teachers who are good at what they are good at and completely out of their element when it comes to leadership.

The program seems fine so that leaves one or two possibilities, but if I were to bet, I'd go with it's one or two fixated posters.

The DCUM Way!

I can't decide if the cult-like Leader in Me PR team is on this thread defending that garbage, or if it's defensive MCPS administrators worried they'll get called out for misusing funds. Either way, there's no value added and it's harmful if only because it sucks time and resources away from other more important areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

You think..
You think the 7 habits are required in the corporate world? Sorry…
Anyone who works in the real world knows bs when they see it.
You sound like you actually need some help.

Forbes disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2011/04/25/applying-the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-people-to-career-development/?sh=726ad32328d7

There's a poster who has their panties in a bunch over this. They likely have a vested interest in some competing program because they seem to fixate on it. Personally, I wish school would focus more on reading books and less on these SEL expeditions but whatever.

Nope just see teachers who are good at what they are good at and completely out of their element when it comes to leadership.

The program seems fine so that leaves one or two possibilities, but if I were to bet, I'd go with it's one or two fixated posters.

The DCUM Way!

I can't decide if the cult-like Leader in Me PR team is on this thread defending that garbage, or if it's defensive MCPS administrators worried they'll get called out for misusing funds. Either way, there's no value added and it's harmful if only because it sucks time and resources away from other more important areas.

Or just plain old regular folks who are fed up with non-stop complaining about this trivia like this, the kid museum or bocce ball.

[Anonymous]

Teacher here. I feel that teaching Leader in Me feels like cheerleading for a multi-level marketing scheme. I am forced to promote something I have little knowledge of and very little faith that it is helping my students. It is not SEL.

The only ones truly benefiting from this is the company getting the money and they are now going to promote MCPS involvement to continue their gravy train. I fear some staff will eventually get hired by this company to continue promoting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I feel that teaching Leader in Me feels like cheerleading for a multi-level marketing scheme. I am forced to promote something I have little knowledge of and very little faith that it is helping my students. It is not SEL.

The only ones truly benefiting from this is the company getting the money and they are now going to promote MCPS involvement to continue their gravy train. I fear some staff will eventually get hired by this company to continue promoting it.

Notice how Dr. McKnight included a Steven Covey quote in her latest email....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

Kids should have nothing to do with these “classes,” regardless of who leads them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.

You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.

Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?

First of all, you’re a moron. Period.

Second of all, even people as dumb as you could teach this. Done! Doesn’t require any specialization. It actually requires negative brain cells. You have to be a covey shill. I just feel sorry for you.

Sorry but teachers are not qualified to teach everything. I know it hurts your feeling. But leadership is needed in the real world and academia is not the real world. Teachers don’t have any experience in a business, they are rarely educated enough to teach most things.

I’m on your side, I don’t think YOU should teach this.

Covey is insipid, pop psych, business lite garbage. Sorry you drank the Kool-Aid. Keep it far away from our kids.