Do any other teachers here hate “Leader in Me”?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the teachers in my high school are forced to teach leader in me during our advisory/home room time. I just feel like I am rambling about jargon nonsense for thirty minutes. The videos seem geared for elementary schoolers and are sometimes not in English. The PowerPoint this week was over forty slides to get done in 30 minutes. It has been a constant fight just to keep kids off their phones, but I honestly don’t blame them. I can’t believe the county paid $1.8 million for this.

Conceptually there is nothing wrong with the seven habits but the presentations seem to assume I am some sort of indoctrinated expert already who is all bubbly about this shit and can think of loads of examples or something. Some kids are in sync with it. Usually students who already have a positive attitude and don’t really need this “training”. But most students have bigger priorities and I and don’t feel like this meets their needs at all.

I asked my other classes how the training is handled and it seems like most are just doing their best to completely ignore it and pretend to hear nothing.


All the teachers at my school love this program. It's really so wonderful. I don't know what you are talking about.


Sure, Jan. Name your school. Name the grade levels supposedly soo in love with this. We will wait.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Taught it last year… third graders absolutely didn’t buy in (good for them) as much as I hated it, I was positive about it. Fast forward: now I teach fifth… they would never buy into it no matter what. It’s bs and you know it’s bad when the kids know it’s bad.


+100. Imagine teaching it to high schoolers. Complete nightmare.
They see right through it
Anonymous
Luckily our school administrators recognise how bad it is and they minimize how much we end up teaching it. Occasionally we go through a lesson but that is it. I cannot believe MCPS shelled out a couple million for this garbage.
We have kids who could have benefited from free lunch but instead of that, MCPS wastes money on useless things.
As a teacher, it is completely infuriating
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Luckily our school administrators recognise how bad it is and they minimize how much we end up teaching it. Occasionally we go through a lesson but that is it. I cannot believe MCPS shelled out a couple million for this garbage.
We have kids who could have benefited from free lunch but instead of that, MCPS wastes money on useless things.
As a teacher, it is completely infuriating


Everyone at our school thought it was amazing! People loved it, especially the kids. I think you must be going about it all wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Luckily our school administrators recognise how bad it is and they minimize how much we end up teaching it. Occasionally we go through a lesson but that is it. I cannot believe MCPS shelled out a couple million for this garbage.
We have kids who could have benefited from free lunch but instead of that, MCPS wastes money on useless things.
As a teacher, it is completely infuriating


Everyone at our school thought it was amazing! People loved it, especially the kids. I think you must be going about it all wrong.


Really? Everyone? I would hope your entire school wasn’t sucked into this cult like thinking. What school are you at where everyone thinks this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Luckily our school administrators recognise how bad it is and they minimize how much we end up teaching it. Occasionally we go through a lesson but that is it. I cannot believe MCPS shelled out a couple million for this garbage.
We have kids who could have benefited from free lunch but instead of that, MCPS wastes money on useless things.
As a teacher, it is completely infuriating


Everyone at our school thought it was amazing! People loved it, especially the kids. I think you must be going about it all wrong.


There’s no way to go about this mind numbing curriculum “wrong.” It’s super easy to teach. People with brains realize it’s garbage. Glad you’re sooo into it but I guarantee you, your students are not. You sound delusional or you’re actually a LIM trainer in disguise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They just started teaching this in my DD's 1st grade class (they sent a warning email last year that it was coming). One thing I did like was a lesson called "the power of yet". For example, "I can't XYZ (cook, read, get married, ride a bike, etc) yet. But the other lessons have involved learning what the 7 principles are and watching elementary kids sing songs about the principles. My daughter did like the song though and had me google it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESNNlA8vq5U

Warning! Haha! Yep, the program is crap and many teachers were already talking about the power of yet. Don’t need an expensive program to figure out that lesson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Luckily our school administrators recognise how bad it is and they minimize how much we end up teaching it. Occasionally we go through a lesson but that is it. I cannot believe MCPS shelled out a couple million for this garbage.
We have kids who could have benefited from free lunch but instead of that, MCPS wastes money on useless things.
As a teacher, it is completely infuriating


Everyone at our school thought it was amazing! People loved it, especially the kids. I think you must be going about it all wrong.


There's one poster who got it in for this program so keeps posting about ti but it's totally a fine program. In fact, my kids actually liked it.
Anonymous
One poster?

Did you miss the part about mcps paying upwards of $2M for this curriculum that is sold by Franklin Covey, a for profit corporation?

Did you miss the part about it’s grounding in Mormonism?

I’m more concerned about the price tag.
Anonymous
I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Luckily our school administrators recognise how bad it is and they minimize how much we end up teaching it. Occasionally we go through a lesson but that is it. I cannot believe MCPS shelled out a couple million for this garbage.
We have kids who could have benefited from free lunch but instead of that, MCPS wastes money on useless things.
As a teacher, it is completely infuriating


Everyone at our school thought it was amazing! People loved it, especially the kids. I think you must be going about it all wrong.


Great sock puppetry by the team that probably bought this crap.
Sad how MCPS is going downhill
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.
Anonymous
“You watched video games for three hours- what could you have done differently?” Fifth grade response: ummm not played video games for three hours? What kind of question is this?” Yes, it’s supposed to create a discussion but most kids are smarter than this…. They know they are so they don’t buy in. The lone teacher praising this here? I’m worried about you and your students. I’m glad my students recognize bs when they see it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I 100% think teachers are in no position to teach leadership.

OTOH, I hire 20 something’s in Montgomery county and the 1st 5 years of training involve communication, leadership and Franklin Covey for becoming organized and efficient.

But I agree you are not qualified to teach it. Kids should go to these classes by qualified staff.


You don’t think teachers are capable of teaching.. leadership? Seek homeschool then. Yikes. No one needs to be “qualified” to teach this complete bs. Anyone with a functioning brain could easily teach it and also realize how stupid it is at the same time.


Yes just like I f’ing think an English teacher should teach math.

Teachers are not leaders.

Clearly OP can’t teach it. It’s a solid program and needed if taught properly.

Really? How many teachers do you know that are actual leaders?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“You watched video games for three hours- what could you have done differently?” Fifth grade response: ummm not played video games for three hours? What kind of question is this?” Yes, it’s supposed to create a discussion but most kids are smarter than this…. They know they are so they don’t buy in. The lone teacher praising this here? I’m worried about you and your students. I’m glad my students recognize bs when they see it.


^^^

Lol this is how you DONT teach it.
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