which is more difficult to get in: Cornell vs Northwestern

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on which college, CS and Dyson are probably much harder to get in

Dyson is at best a top 30 biz school. Kellogg is M7 and undergrads can get certificate, similar to Princeton's finance certificate.

Dyson has like 3% acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on which college, CS and Dyson are probably much harder to get in

Dyson is at best a top 30 biz school. Kellogg is M7 and undergrads can get certificate, similar to Princeton's finance certificate.

Dyson has like 3% acceptance rate.

It's in in-state school (similar to the agriculture program), so the draw is the discounted tuition, not the quality of program itself

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on which college, CS and Dyson are probably much harder to get in

Dyson is at best a top 30 biz school. Kellogg is M7 and undergrads can get certificate, similar to Princeton's finance certificate.

Dyson has like 3% acceptance rate.

It's in in-state school (similar to the agriculture program), so the draw is the discounted tuition, not the quality of program itself

Check the thread title. I don't know about quality of programs.

I stand by my assessment that Cornell Dyson is harder to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:I know Northwestern is ranked slightly higher and Chicago suburb is probably more desirable than Ithaca, but if it were me, an Ivy League degree is an Ivy League degree. US news has Northwestern at 10 and Cornell at 17. WSJ has Cornell at 11 and Northwestern at 9. Forbes has Northwestern 11 and Cornell 16.

Is the slight uptick worth it? Where will your kid be? East Coast? I would do Cornell.

Northwestern is one of the small handful of schools where the “Ivy League degree is an Ivy League degree” argument doesn’t work. I agree that nitpicking about rankings is useless (although I haven’t really seen that here in this thread), I just don’t see how a school simply just being in the Ivy League has any material benefit. In your own words, is the slight uptick (of being able to say you went to an Ivy League) worth it?

DP. My observation is that Cornell's alumni network and name, particularly in certain fields, carries more weight deep into a career than Northwestern's does. I'm sure Northwestern's network is very strong in the Midwest and obviously the school is very well respected elsewhere. But Cornell's network is more deeply in entrenched on the East Coast. There are two major advantages to going to a brand name school like this, from a career perspective -- one is the degree to which that brand name gets you in the door. I think the schools are roughly equal in that respect, with some variation depending on industry. But the other is the degree to which the school offers pipelines to certain industries and employers. I think that's more true with Cornell than Northwestern, and generally more true for Ivy League schools than others, at least when looking at the major East Coast markets (NY, DC, Boston, Philly).

I'm based in NYC, and very few ppl in my circle considers Cornell brand stronger than Northwestern's. Yes, Cornell has a bigger network in NY, but it's different from considering it a better school. Just look at recent rankings, Cornell has been slipping to mid teens in all the publications

+1. Don't get me wrong, Cornell is a fantastic school and has a great rep, but Northwestern's brand is just as strong, if not stronger, and while the alumni base is smaller, it definitely runs deep here.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on which college, CS and Dyson are probably much harder to get in

Dyson is at best a top 30 biz school. Kellogg is M7 and undergrads can get certificate, similar to Princeton's finance certificate.

Dyson has like 3% acceptance rate.

It's in in-state school (similar to the agriculture program), so the draw is the discounted tuition, not the quality of program itself

Check the thread title. I don't know about quality of programs.

I stand by my assessment that Cornell Dyson is harder to get in.

Northwestern people are good at changing subjects.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on which college, CS and Dyson are probably much harder to get in

Dyson is at best a top 30 biz school. Kellogg is M7 and undergrads can get certificate, similar to Princeton's finance certificate.

Dyson has like 3% acceptance rate.

It's in in-state school (similar to the agriculture program), so the draw is the discounted tuition, not the quality of program itself

Check the thread title. I don't know about quality of programs.

I stand by my assessment that Cornell Dyson is harder to get in.

Northwestern people are good at changing subjects.

Who's to say the people in this thread are "Northwestern people"? Strange thing to say.

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Cornell College of Computing and Information Science is also probably harder to get in.

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Both are harder to get into depending on how you frame it!

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Northwestern easy to get in if you ED. I said this in another thread but the students who applied and accepted ED in our DC private school were nowhere near the top. Average or slightly above average students.

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern easy to get in if you ED. I said this in another thread but the students who applied and accepted ED in our DC private school were nowhere near the top. Average or slightly above average students.

Definitely not true at all. "Easy to get in if you ED" is just blatant misinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern easy to get in if you ED. I said this in another thread but the students who applied and accepted ED in our DC private school were nowhere near the top. Average or slightly above average students.

I find this very hard to believe. What private school are you referencing? At our top public, Northwestern kids were all either top or close to top. And the one girl I know who matriculated to Northwestern from an elite private school was valedictorian.

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They are both fabulous schools and would be great outcomes.

I would try to get a feel for which school might be looking for a kid like yours. I realize this is not easy. I'd read the schools newspapers, talk to students who go/went there. Have your kid watch 1,000 youtube vlogs and then pick the one that most resonates, and that they feel they can put the strongest application together for.

GL!

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I attended Cornell. DC attends NU. Both are excellent schools, but very different vibe due to location. I happened to love Ithaca, but DC would have been bored silly there. Different fit for different people, though pretty equivalent in selectivity. Deciding which to apply to (or attend) based on acceptance rates makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I attended Cornell. DC attends NU. Both are excellent schools, but very different vibe due to location. I happened to love Ithaca, but DC would have been bored silly there. Different fit for different people, though pretty equivalent in selectivity. Deciding which to apply to (or attend) based on acceptance rates makes no sense.

+1 Unless the kid is a robot, anyone would have a clear preference for one or the other of the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern easy to get in if you ED. I said this in another thread but the students who applied and accepted ED in our DC private school were nowhere near the top. Average or slightly above average students.

I find this very hard to believe. What private school are you referencing? At our top public, Northwestern kids were all either top or close to top. And the one girl I know who matriculated to Northwestern from an elite private school was valedictorian.

You don't have to believe me. I say this only because DCUM is often alarmist and makes people think these places are impossible to get in. No, they're not. Average students from private schools will get into NU.