What is it like being gen Ed at AAP center?

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Can't gen ed kids elect to take honors classes at that point? BTW, My AAP 7th grader only has core AA classes; the rest of the classes are not "separated."

Yes, but the AAP classes are different and this is a school where everyone is encouraged to take honors

It depends on the MS school. Some AAP and honors are the same.

The students are separated. At schools with a lot of farms students encouraged to try honors, the classes will end up moving at very different paces.

I think the point people are trying to make is that IT DOES NOT Matter! By the time you get to MS and opt to take HN or in AAP, your day is MIXED with ALL kids. Math is completely separate-so that really can not be counted. LA, History, Sci may or may not be separated by AAP/HN/Regular BUT ALL other classes( PE, 2 electives or Foreign Language, "Mascot" Time, Lunch) are ALL MIXED. Plus by this point, your kids are friends with all kids from sports teams and other extra activities that the "peer" group thing becomes much less of a thing. By HS ALL kids can chose EVERY CLASS that they take regardless of in AAP,HN, GE etc. A ton of kids not in AAP(from ES) take Honors and AP or IB classes in HS.

I’m not counting lunch, study hall, those bullsh*t electives, or even PE as real classes. I don’t care if those classes are mixed. I only care about the core classes and I’m thankful my child is in AAP and surrounded by academically like minded peers.

Do you really believe that kids who can't come close to passing an SOL coming out of Hybla Valley taking honors because they were told everyone should try honors classes isn't going to slow classes?

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Can't gen ed kids elect to take honors classes at that point? BTW, My AAP 7th grader only has core AA classes; the rest of the classes are not "separated."

Yes, but the AAP classes are different and this is a school where everyone is encouraged to take honors

It depends on the MS school. Some AAP and honors are the same.

The students are separated. At schools with a lot of farms students encouraged to try honors, the classes will end up moving at very different paces.

I think the point people are trying to make is that IT DOES NOT Matter! By the time you get to MS and opt to take HN or in AAP, your day is MIXED with ALL kids. Math is completely separate-so that really can not be counted. LA, History, Sci may or may not be separated by AAP/HN/Regular BUT ALL other classes( PE, 2 electives or Foreign Language, "Mascot" Time, Lunch) are ALL MIXED. Plus by this point, your kids are friends with all kids from sports teams and other extra activities that the "peer" group thing becomes much less of a thing. By HS ALL kids can chose EVERY CLASS that they take regardless of in AAP,HN, GE etc. A ton of kids not in AAP(from ES) take Honors and AP or IB classes in HS.

I’m not counting lunch, study hall, those bullsh*t electives, or even PE as real classes. I don’t care if those classes are mixed. I only care about the core classes and I’m thankful my child is in AAP and surrounded by academically like minded peers.

Do you really believe that kids who can't come close to passing an SOL coming out of Hybla Valley taking honors because they were told everyone should try honors classes isn't going to slow classes?

No, and from my posts you would get that. I was saying I don’t care if those lower kids are in other classes like PE or lunch. I don’t want them in the core classes. How do you not get that?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a healthy environment. One boy said to my DC that he’s too smart for his class and will be moving to AAP. This was 3rd grade.

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Even better is when an AAP kid tells your kid they’re “stupid.” That’s fun.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Yes. My kid can attend a better middle school due to AAP. Way less problems, drugs, behavior issues. More academic focus and kids on the right track. Thank God for AAP!

Then go to high school with those you done want in your middle school.

Nope, by then my kid will be in mostly AP classes and will rarely have to see those kids.

Certain pyramids across FCPS, the majority of kids do take honors and AP courses in HS even though they were not in AAP and they do great. I've taught in a few HS. Those kids will most likely be in your kids AP classes, but keep telling yourself otherwise. The kids could care less who was in what program in Elementary School, the few that do, have been been constantly told by the parents that they are smarter than others. A lot of kids really mature and start to thrive by HS, it is wonderful to watch that happen.

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Anonymous wrote:I have had two Gen Ed kids at an AAP center. One of the bigger problems is that there are 2 Gen Ed classes and 4 AAP classes for their grades so socially, my kids are stuck with the same kids every year whereas the AAP kids get more variety in their peer group. My older kid couldn’t have cared less about AAP. My younger kid is bitter that she can’t take advanced math even though literally 2/3 of her grade is in advanced math (very long story there). But, I already told my younger kid that she can take advanced math in middle school - it isn’t up to the school, we get to decide.

This. There is something wrong when AAP kids outnumber GE kids. Ours were also in this situation - centers give the impression to all that if you’re in GE, you’re in the minority and are dumb. It’s a horrible place for GE kids to have to go to school. If I could do it all over, we would have moved to a neighborhood with a non-center school.

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Anonymous wrote:One DC in GenEd at a center felt inferior because she knew she wasn’t in the AAP. This lowered her self esteem throughout elementary school.

She'll be happy in Middle School and High School knowing she wasn't part of the "weird" group. LOL.

Good lord the parents are the absolute worst part of FCPS. Are you 13, pp?

DP. Funny, you didn’t seem to be outraged about the earlier posts claiming how glad parents were that their kids were in AAP so they “wouldn’t have to deal with all the behavior issues from GE.” And the parents crowing about AAP being a “better crowd.” All of which, btw, is garbage. But seems those remarks were just fine to you.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Can't gen ed kids elect to take honors classes at that point? BTW, My AAP 7th grader only has core AA classes; the rest of the classes are not "separated."

Yes, but the AAP classes are different and this is a school where everyone is encouraged to take honors

It depends on the MS school. Some AAP and honors are the same.

The students are separated. At schools with a lot of farms students encouraged to try honors, the classes will end up moving at very different paces.

I think the point people are trying to make is that IT DOES NOT Matter! By the time you get to MS and opt to take HN or in AAP, your day is MIXED with ALL kids. Math is completely separate-so that really can not be counted. LA, History, Sci may or may not be separated by AAP/HN/Regular BUT ALL other classes( PE, 2 electives or Foreign Language, "Mascot" Time, Lunch) are ALL MIXED. Plus by this point, your kids are friends with all kids from sports teams and other extra activities that the "peer" group thing becomes much less of a thing. By HS ALL kids can chose EVERY CLASS that they take regardless of in AAP,HN, GE etc. A ton of kids not in AAP(from ES) take Honors and AP or IB classes in HS.

Yes - by the time students reach high school, it doesn’t matter - kids can choose to take whatever classes they want. However, the damage has been done. Dividing students into two very similar groups, starting at age 7 in elementary school - but labeling one “advanced” and the other not - is incredibly inappropriate and damaging.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Yes. My kid can attend a better middle school due to AAP. Way less problems, drugs, behavior issues. More academic focus and kids on the right track. Thank God for AAP!

Then go to high school with those you done want in your middle school.

Nope, by then my kid will be in mostly AP classes and will rarely have to see those kids.

You do realize in high school, AP classes are open to all? Get a clue. Many former GE kids outshine their former AAP peers in high school. Brace yourself!
DP

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Anonymous wrote:One DC in GenEd at a center felt inferior because she knew she wasn’t in the AAP. This lowered her self esteem throughout elementary school.

She'll be happy in Middle School and High School knowing she wasn't part of the "weird" group. LOL.

Good lord the parents are the absolute worst part of FCPS. Are you 13, pp?

DP. Funny, you didn’t seem to be outraged about the earlier posts claiming how glad parents were that their kids were in AAP so they “wouldn’t have to deal with all the behavior issues from GE.” And the parents crowing about AAP being a “better crowd.” All of which, btw, is garbage. But seems those remarks were just fine to you.

Unfortunately, I lack the tech skills to quote all the idiots on this thread, so I went with the most recent ridiculousness posted prior to making my comment. I said “parents” - i never specified GE or AAP, it was a global statement about “parents” being the worst part of this school district. I did, however, ask the pp if they were 13, bc their comment did seem especially juvenile.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Yes. My kid can attend a better middle school due to AAP. Way less problems, drugs, behavior issues. More academic focus and kids on the right track. Thank God for AAP!

Then go to high school with those you done want in your middle school.

Nope, by then my kid will be in mostly AP classes and will rarely have to see those kids.

Certain pyramids across FCPS, the majority of kids do take honors and AP courses in HS even though they were not in AAP and they do great. I've taught in a few HS. Those kids will most likely be in your kids AP classes, but keep telling yourself otherwise. The kids could care less who was in what program in Elementary School, the few that do, have been been constantly told by the parents that they are smarter than others. A lot of kids really mature and start to thrive by HS, it is wonderful to watch that happen.

You’re not getting it. I’m referring to a specific subset of kids who will never be in honors of AP classes. The track my kid will be on will be different.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Can't gen ed kids elect to take honors classes at that point? BTW, My AAP 7th grader only has core AA classes; the rest of the classes are not "separated."

Yes, but the AAP classes are different and this is a school where everyone is encouraged to take honors

It depends on the MS school. Some AAP and honors are the same.

The students are separated. At schools with a lot of farms students encouraged to try honors, the classes will end up moving at very different paces.

I think the point people are trying to make is that IT DOES NOT Matter! By the time you get to MS and opt to take HN or in AAP, your day is MIXED with ALL kids. Math is completely separate-so that really can not be counted. LA, History, Sci may or may not be separated by AAP/HN/Regular BUT ALL other classes( PE, 2 electives or Foreign Language, "Mascot" Time, Lunch) are ALL MIXED. Plus by this point, your kids are friends with all kids from sports teams and other extra activities that the "peer" group thing becomes much less of a thing. By HS ALL kids can chose EVERY CLASS that they take regardless of in AAP,HN, GE etc. A ton of kids not in AAP(from ES) take Honors and AP or IB classes in HS.

I’m not counting lunch, study hall, those bullsh*t electives, or even PE as real classes. I don’t care if those classes are mixed. I only care about the core classes and I’m thankful my child is in AAP and surrounded by academically like minded peers.

It is as if you can not comprehend that kids in honors or GE are also academically i”like minded peers”.That is fine. Maybe you will get it when those “other” kids are in your child’s HS school classes.

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PP is either a troll or extremely ignorant. Or both.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Yes. My kid can attend a better middle school due to AAP. Way less problems, drugs, behavior issues. More academic focus and kids on the right track. Thank God for AAP!

Then go to high school with those you done want in your middle school.

Nope, by then my kid will be in mostly AP classes and will rarely have to see those kids.

You do realize in high school, AP classes are open to all? Get a clue. Many former GE kids outshine their former AAP peers in high school. Brace yourself!
DP

LD kids will be in AP classes? Doubtful.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Can't gen ed kids elect to take honors classes at that point? BTW, My AAP 7th grader only has core AA classes; the rest of the classes are not "separated."

Yes, but the AAP classes are different and this is a school where everyone is encouraged to take honors

It depends on the MS school. Some AAP and honors are the same.

The students are separated. At schools with a lot of farms students encouraged to try honors, the classes will end up moving at very different paces.

I think the point people are trying to make is that IT DOES NOT Matter! By the time you get to MS and opt to take HN or in AAP, your day is MIXED with ALL kids. Math is completely separate-so that really can not be counted. LA, History, Sci may or may not be separated by AAP/HN/Regular BUT ALL other classes( PE, 2 electives or Foreign Language, "Mascot" Time, Lunch) are ALL MIXED. Plus by this point, your kids are friends with all kids from sports teams and other extra activities that the "peer" group thing becomes much less of a thing. By HS ALL kids can chose EVERY CLASS that they take regardless of in AAP,HN, GE etc. A ton of kids not in AAP(from ES) take Honors and AP or IB classes in HS.

I’m not counting lunch, study hall, those bullsh*t electives, or even PE as real classes. I don’t care if those classes are mixed. I only care about the core classes and I’m thankful my child is in AAP and surrounded by academically like minded peers.

It is as if you can not comprehend that kids in honors or GE are also academically i”like minded peers”.That is fine. Maybe you will get it when those “other” kids are in your child’s HS school classes.

Certain kids will never be in my child’s classes. Such as the jocks.

Oh my. You are in for quite a surprise when high school rolls around! Bless your heart.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Can't gen ed kids elect to take honors classes at that point? BTW, My AAP 7th grader only has core AA classes; the rest of the classes are not "separated."

Yes, but the AAP classes are different and this is a school where everyone is encouraged to take honors

It depends on the MS school. Some AAP and honors are the same.

The students are separated. At schools with a lot of farms students encouraged to try honors, the classes will end up moving at very different paces.

I think the point people are trying to make is that IT DOES NOT Matter! By the time you get to MS and opt to take HN or in AAP, your day is MIXED with ALL kids. Math is completely separate-so that really can not be counted. LA, History, Sci may or may not be separated by AAP/HN/Regular BUT ALL other classes( PE, 2 electives or Foreign Language, "Mascot" Time, Lunch) are ALL MIXED. Plus by this point, your kids are friends with all kids from sports teams and other extra activities that the "peer" group thing becomes much less of a thing. By HS ALL kids can chose EVERY CLASS that they take regardless of in AAP,HN, GE etc. A ton of kids not in AAP(from ES) take Honors and AP or IB classes in HS.

I’m not counting lunch, study hall, those bullsh*t electives, or even PE as real classes. I don’t care if those classes are mixed. I only care about the core classes and I’m thankful my child is in AAP and surrounded by academically like minded peers.

Do you really believe that by the time they are in high school, only those in AAP are in AP courses and the like? No, they are not. My gen ed kids are in AP courses alongside their former AAP peers. It literally does not matter, and you cannot tell who in high school was an AAP student and who was not. Secondly, do you really believe gen ed students are not as like-minded as your precious child? I mean, that’s really high-minded and you are in for a big surprise once your kids get to high school! Is the first question you ask your child’s friend, “We’re you in AAP?” Lol

This. What a joke the PP is.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP goes out the door in 7th grade. I have had kids in both programs. When your child is young and the "first kid", this seems to be when most parents are more anxious about getting into AAP.. By the time they get to middle school and certainly high school you realize it wasn't worth the stress. One "possible" perk could be peer group but I will say, my middle child did not have the positive peer group in AAP that my older one did. So, at least for me, my belief is that is just depends on the class year as a whole. Youngest is not in AAP at a center and all has been fine. In fact it has been the smallest AAP class this school has had. 3rd grade GE teacher incorporated a ton of "AAP" curriculum-could be teacher dependent. Things seem to be really changing.

Funny, for our pyramid, 7th and 8th being separated is the biggest benefit

Yes. My kid can attend a better middle school due to AAP. Way less problems, drugs, behavior issues. More academic focus and kids on the right track. Thank God for AAP!

Then go to high school with those you done want in your middle school.

Nope, by then my kid will be in mostly AP classes and will rarely have to see those kids.

You do realize in high school, AP classes are open to all? Get a clue. Many former GE kids outshine their former AAP peers in high school. Brace yourself!
DP

LD kids will be in AP classes? Doubtful.

+1 or kids who can’t read/write? They won’t be in any of my kids’ core classes, sorry. No matter how much you like to parrot “but they’re open to anyone!” No, the reality is only certain types of students can handle those classes. A kid who can’t read isn’t signing up for an AP class.