Actress Anne Heche severely burned in fiery car crash

[Anonymous]

What a mess! Fortunately nobody else was hurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad how devastating childhood abuse can be a lifelong suffering. She ravaged her body with substances and is now covered in burns; and caused great damage to others in response to her trauma. Her father was a monster. While she is unfortunately responsible for carrying that burden and maintaining herself the crash was rooted in a harmed child.

Genetics passed on to choldren.
Her father very likely had untreated mental health issues. Perhaps her father also experienced abuse when he was growing up.

I don’t disagree with this. But it also seems that the father is being given more compassion in this conversation than Ann.

PP here. I feel compassion for all who battle mental health and substance abuse issues. I don't regard any of them as "monsters."
I do think too many people don't understand the significance of genetic factors in these matters and also think forced hospitalizations and/or rehab should be required or give up certain freedoms. People with significant issues should not be free to drive, own guns, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad how devastating childhood abuse can be a lifelong suffering. She ravaged her body with substances and is now covered in burns; and caused great damage to others in response to her trauma. Her father was a monster. While she is unfortunately responsible for carrying that burden and maintaining herself the crash was rooted in a harmed child.

Genetics passed on to choldren.
Her father very likely had untreated mental health issues. Perhaps her father also experienced abuse when he was growing up.

I don’t disagree with this. But it also seems that the father is being given more compassion in this conversation than Ann.

PP here. I feel compassion for all who battle mental health and substance abuse issues. I don't regard any of them as "monsters."
I do think too many people don't understand the significance of genetic factors in these matters and also think forced hospitalizations and/or rehab should be required or give up certain freedoms. People with significant issues should not be free to drive, own guns, etc.

Choosing to not get help and rape your daughter / continue the cycle is a problem. I understand everything you’re saying and have experience in working with complex trauma. I do not have compassion for sex offenders. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad how devastating childhood abuse can be a lifelong suffering. She ravaged her body with substances and is now covered in burns; and caused great damage to others in response to her trauma. Her father was a monster. While she is unfortunately responsible for carrying that burden and maintaining herself the crash was rooted in a harmed child.

Genetics passed on to choldren.
Her father very likely had untreated mental health issues. Perhaps her father also experienced abuse when he was growing up.

I don’t disagree with this. But it also seems that the father is being given more compassion in this conversation than Ann.

PP here. I feel compassion for all who battle mental health and substance abuse issues. I don't regard any of them as "monsters."
I do think too many people don't understand the significance of genetic factors in these matters and also think forced hospitalizations and/or rehab should be required or give up certain freedoms. People with significant issues should not be free to drive, own guns, etc.

Choosing to not get help and rape your daughter / continue the cycle is a problem. I understand everything you’re saying and have experience in working with complex trauma. I do not have compassion for sex offenders. Period.

PP here. I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

She’s in stable condition now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently during her show that day, she sounded drunk (as posted online, I have no direct knowledge of course):

https://www.tmz.com/2022/08/06/anne-heche-new-video-speeding-residential-street-before-crash/

Why does no one intervene when people like Whitney Huston or whatever celebrity are circling the drain? Too many people getting rich off of them perhaps. All I know is that most workplaces would NOT tolerate people being drunk on duty. Very sad person all around. Clearly lost and miserable.

You have no idea how many people may have tried to intervene. Nobody can force someone to get better. Often addicts have to hit rock bottom and decide for themselves. You are very naive about how these things work. Most work places don't tolerate this? OMG. Do you know how many doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, etc are practicing with serious impairment due to things like addiction, dementia, mental illness, etc? You don't magically decide the person is imapired and fire them. It takes a ton of documenting and meeting with them and working with lawyers and still they can sue you. Impairment is all around is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have zero sympathy for her. None. She chose to get behind the wheel. Nope she didn't let those substance abuse demons stop her!

This accident is on the heels of a horrific accident just one day earlier, also here in LA, where 6 people were killed including a pregnant woman, her one year old boy, her unborn child, her fiance. The woman who caused the accident was going over 100mph down a busy road and barreled right through an intersection. Seeing the Ring video of Heche's car was eerily similar to that crash.

Will she survive? Of course she will. Just like the nurse who killed those 6 people.

Here's a video of that horrific car accident

Yep - that's the one. The first time I saw the video I nearly threw my phone across the room from the horror of what I just saw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same sh@t Tiger used after his last crash “condition prevents from having toxicology tests done”. Having $ pays for a good lawyer because that is absolute bullsh@t. They can take a vial of blood, they would anyway before administering meds.

I thought the same thing.

Sometimes the medical team does not want insurance to deny the claim. But it is actually relevant for diagnosis and treatment to know what someone is on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad how devastating childhood abuse can be a lifelong suffering. She ravaged her body with substances and is now covered in burns; and caused great damage to others in response to her trauma. Her father was a monster. While she is unfortunately responsible for carrying that burden and maintaining herself the crash was rooted in a harmed child.

Genetics passed on to choldren.
Her father very likely had untreated mental health issues. Perhaps her father also experienced abuse when he was growing up.

I don’t disagree with this. But it also seems that the father is being given more compassion in this conversation than Ann.

PP here. I feel compassion for all who battle mental health and substance abuse issues. I don't regard any of them as "monsters."
I do think too many people don't understand the significance of genetic factors in these matters and also think forced hospitalizations and/or rehab should be required or give up certain freedoms. People with significant issues should not be free to drive, own guns, etc.

Choosing to not get help and rape your daughter / continue the cycle is a problem. I understand everything you’re saying and have experience in working with complex trauma. I do not have compassion for sex offenders. Period.

We don’t know for sure it happened (her sibling thinks not). Some therapists plant these ideas in people’s minds. She said she was a toddler and is not entirely sure it happened. (She also says she had genital heroes as an INFANT, but her mother says it was diaper rash)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very sad how devastating childhood abuse can be a lifelong suffering. She ravaged her body with substances and is now covered in burns; and caused great damage to others in response to her trauma. Her father was a monster. While she is unfortunately responsible for carrying that burden and maintaining herself the crash was rooted in a harmed child.

Genetics passed on to choldren.
Her father very likely had untreated mental health issues. Perhaps her father also experienced abuse when he was growing up.

I don’t disagree with this. But it also seems that the father is being given more compassion in this conversation than Ann.

PP here. I feel compassion for all who battle mental health and substance abuse issues. I don't regard any of them as "monsters."
I do think too many people don't understand the significance of genetic factors in these matters and also think forced hospitalizations and/or rehab should be required or give up certain freedoms. People with significant issues should not be free to drive, own guns, etc.

Choosing to not get help and rape your daughter / continue the cycle is a problem. I understand everything you’re saying and have experience in working with complex trauma. I do not have compassion for sex offenders. Period.

We don’t know for sure it happened (her sibling thinks not). Some therapists plant these ideas in people’s minds. She said she was a toddler and is not entirely sure it happened. (She also says she had genital heroes as an INFANT, but her mother says it was diaper rash)

Wonder if AH went to the same therapist as Teal Swan? She’s notorious for coercing patients into false memories of their parents abusing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same sh@t Tiger used after his last crash “condition prevents from having toxicology tests done”. Having $ pays for a good lawyer because that is absolute bullsh@t. They can take a vial of blood, they would anyway before administering meds.

I thought the same thing.

Sometimes the medical team does not want insurance to deny the claim. But it is actually relevant for diagnosis and treatment to know what someone is on.

Maybe her arms were burnt and it was simply a medical emergency

[Anonymous]

No condition prevents toxicology- just sayin'. It may not be the PRIORITY- but it can be done.

[Anonymous]

Interesting that I’ve heard almost no compassion here for the lady whose house was burned down, who almost died trying to rescue her dog, and who had to flee her house so quickly that she didn’t even have shoes on. It is true that it was only sheer luck that we didn’t see another loss of life like that with the accident on La Brea where an entire young family was obliterated. Driving at that level of impairment is no less a crime than shooting a gun into a crowded room — you might get lucky and not kill anyone, but chances are some innocent person or persons are going to die.

I have compassion for people with substance abuse issues, but as someone who lost multiple family members to a drunk driver, there is zero excuse for driving impaired. The driver may get a few years of jail time (maybe!), but it is a death sentence for the innocent people they kill. Their families live every day with the emotional scars of losing their parents and children. I don’t apologize for having no sympathy for someone who did this and has to live with a few physical scars.

[Anonymous]

If you want to help the woman whose house was destroyed -- also pictures of the house

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-lynne-mishele-after-devastating-fire-loss?utm_campaign=p_cp%20share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&fbclid=IwAR224VTOHM0-mUXBeXD0utuOvm0CnceFGotUFcyAf3Beg4VzMj-GkFPo4C0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to help the woman whose house was destroyed -- also pictures of the house

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-lynne-mishele-after-devastating-fire-loss?utm_campaign=p_cp%20share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&fbclid=IwAR224VTOHM0-mUXBeXD0utuOvm0CnceFGotUFcyAf3Beg4VzMj-GkFPo4C0

Oh, wow thank you for posting this link. She's so very lucky that she and her beloved pets got out alive!! Truly terrible though that she and other victims pay a steep price for the selfish, non-caring choices of drunk, speeding drivers.