Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"

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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.
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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.


Your solution to ‘West Virginia has so much welfare’ is to pile on MORE welfare? At the expense of the taxpayer? During a 50-year high for inflation?
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Anonymous wrote:Coming from Bernie, the fool who helped spoil one election, this is rich.

It is infuriating that two rogue “Democrats” are able to stop everything. Most of Biden’s policies are pretty middle of the road and they’re what millions of Democrats and others voted for.

Its also infuriating that the Repubes are allowed to be regressive jerks who want to ruin America and no one cares.


Hes just salty because he knows he may not be alive when the democrats control the WH and congress again


He's gonna be irrelevant soon. Dems will have a majority in the Senate with the next election.


Dems are projected to lose the House. Go google how to pass a bill.


Those indicators are fizzling fast. Google polling on the tossup and "leans/likely R" districts. Quite a few of them show Dems creeping ahead of their Republican competitors when historically that shouldn't be happening in a mid-term where a Dem is in the White House. Chances of a "red wave" are pretty much gone. The Republicans *could* still take the house but at this point even that is not longer guaranteed. And, don't underestimate how hard Dems will be hitting campaign contributions and hitting polls and GOTV campaigns as a result of the Dobbs ruling. Some of the Dems have been amassing war chests that completely dwarf their R competition.
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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.


Your solution to ‘West Virginia has so much welfare’ is to pile on MORE welfare? At the expense of the taxpayer? During a 50-year high for inflation?


Your solution is to do nothing and let West Virginians descend into even deeper poverty. I'll take mine over yours.
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Anonymous wrote:Coming from Bernie, the fool who helped spoil one election, this is rich.

It is infuriating that two rogue “Democrats” are able to stop everything. Most of Biden’s policies are pretty middle of the road and they’re what millions of Democrats and others voted for.

Its also infuriating that the Repubes are allowed to be regressive jerks who want to ruin America and no one cares.


Hes just salty because he knows he may not be alive when the democrats control the WH and congress again


He's gonna be irrelevant soon. Dems will have a majority in the Senate with the next election.


Dems are projected to lose the House. Go google how to pass a bill.


Those indicators are fizzling fast. Google polling on the tossup and "leans/likely R" districts. Quite a few of them show Dems creeping ahead of their Republican competitors when historically that shouldn't be happening in a mid-term where a Dem is in the White House. Chances of a "red wave" are pretty much gone. The Republicans *could* still take the house but at this point even that is not longer guaranteed. And, don't underestimate how hard Dems will be hitting campaign contributions and hitting polls and GOTV campaigns as a result of the Dobbs ruling. Some of the Dems have been amassing war chests that completely dwarf their R competition.


I remember the Dem war chests of 2020. Historic numbers. They all lost.

Sara Gideon against Susan Collins (ME), Theresa Greenfield against Joni Ernst (IO), Steve Bullock against Steve Daines (MT), Al Gross vs Dan Sullivan (AL), Lindsey Graham against Jaime Harrison (SC), John Corryn and MJ Hegar (TX), Thom Tillis vs Cal Cunningham (NC) and Amy McGrath vs Mitch McConnell (KY).

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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.


Your solution to ‘West Virginia has so much welfare’ is to pile on MORE welfare? At the expense of the taxpayer? During a 50-year high for inflation?


Your solution is to do nothing and let West Virginians descend into even deeper poverty. I'll take mine over yours.


They seem pretty happy without interference. Manchin is a King in West Virginia and considering all the DC folks rushing to move to the state - you have no complaints otherwise.
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Even the White House is preparing for a GOP majority but fools think somehow the Dems will be in control past midterms?

Additional staffing departures and changes are possible as part of the broader re-evaluation of the press operation as the White House considers a future after the midterms in which they may confront a new, Republican majority in Congress. A source said that existing staff could see their portfolios shift as the administration is potentially focused less on legislating and more on confronting investigations from a new GOP majority. Biden’s own political future and the possibility of a 2024 reelection campaign are also factoring in to the plans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/white-house-begins-search-fresh-communications-team-rcna38980
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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.


Your solution to ‘West Virginia has so much welfare’ is to pile on MORE welfare? At the expense of the taxpayer? During a 50-year high for inflation?


Your solution is to do nothing and let West Virginians descend into even deeper poverty. I'll take mine over yours.


They seem pretty happy without interference. Manchin is a King in West Virginia and considering all the DC folks rushing to move to the state - you have no complaints otherwise.


West Virginians love their delusions, they love to lie to themselves and each other. Again, it's all good when you have stereotypical "worse people" to look down on, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Coming from Bernie, the fool who helped spoil one election, this is rich.

It is infuriating that two rogue “Democrats” are able to stop everything. Most of Biden’s policies are pretty middle of the road and they’re what millions of Democrats and others voted for.

Its also infuriating that the Repubes are allowed to be regressive jerks who want to ruin America and no one cares.


Hes just salty because he knows he may not be alive when the democrats control the WH and congress again


He's gonna be irrelevant soon. Dems will have a majority in the Senate with the next election.


Dems are projected to lose the House. Go google how to pass a bill.


Those indicators are fizzling fast. Google polling on the tossup and "leans/likely R" districts. Quite a few of them show Dems creeping ahead of their Republican competitors when historically that shouldn't be happening in a mid-term where a Dem is in the White House. Chances of a "red wave" are pretty much gone. The Republicans *could* still take the house but at this point even that is not longer guaranteed. And, don't underestimate how hard Dems will be hitting campaign contributions and hitting polls and GOTV campaigns as a result of the Dobbs ruling. Some of the Dems have been amassing war chests that completely dwarf their R competition.


I remember the Dem war chests of 2020. Historic numbers. They all lost.

Sara Gideon against Susan Collins (ME), Theresa Greenfield against Joni Ernst (IO), Steve Bullock against Steve Daines (MT), Al Gross vs Dan Sullivan (AL), Lindsey Graham against Jaime Harrison (SC), John Corryn and MJ Hegar (TX), Thom Tillis vs Cal Cunningham (NC) and Amy McGrath vs Mitch McConnell (KY).



So they lost in deep red areas or with deeply entrenched incumbents. No shocker there. You ignore the fact that the Dems won many seats in tossup and less-red districts.
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Anonymous wrote:Coming from Bernie, the fool who helped spoil one election, this is rich.

It is infuriating that two rogue “Democrats” are able to stop everything. Most of Biden’s policies are pretty middle of the road and they’re what millions of Democrats and others voted for.

Its also infuriating that the Repubes are allowed to be regressive jerks who want to ruin America and no one cares.


Hes just salty because he knows he may not be alive when the democrats control the WH and congress again


He's gonna be irrelevant soon. Dems will have a majority in the Senate with the next election.


Dems are projected to lose the House. Go google how to pass a bill.


Those indicators are fizzling fast. Google polling on the tossup and "leans/likely R" districts. Quite a few of them show Dems creeping ahead of their Republican competitors when historically that shouldn't be happening in a mid-term where a Dem is in the White House. Chances of a "red wave" are pretty much gone. The Republicans *could* still take the house but at this point even that is not longer guaranteed. And, don't underestimate how hard Dems will be hitting campaign contributions and hitting polls and GOTV campaigns as a result of the Dobbs ruling. Some of the Dems have been amassing war chests that completely dwarf their R competition.


I remember the Dem war chests of 2020. Historic numbers. They all lost.

Sara Gideon against Susan Collins (ME), Theresa Greenfield against Joni Ernst (IO), Steve Bullock against Steve Daines (MT), Al Gross vs Dan Sullivan (AL), Lindsey Graham against Jaime Harrison (SC), John Corryn and MJ Hegar (TX), Thom Tillis vs Cal Cunningham (NC) and Amy McGrath vs Mitch McConnell (KY).



So they lost in deep red areas or with deeply entrenched incumbents. No shocker there. You ignore the fact that the Dems won many seats in tossup and less-red districts.


Many but not enough to make a difference…according to this thread of whiners. And Dems had the advantage of a huge anti-trump wave and Covid fear. What do they have now? 10% inflation that they’re in charge of.
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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.


Your solution to ‘West Virginia has so much welfare’ is to pile on MORE welfare? At the expense of the taxpayer? During a 50-year high for inflation?


Your solution is to do nothing and let West Virginians descend into even deeper poverty. I'll take mine over yours.


They seem pretty happy without interference. Manchin is a King in West Virginia and considering all the DC folks rushing to move to the state - you have no complaints otherwise.


West Virginians love their delusions, they love to lie to themselves and each other. Again, it's all good when you have stereotypical "worse people" to look down on, right?


I wouldn’t know but you’re welcome to join your brethren flocking to the state

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1069532.page
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Anonymous wrote:I think he's perfectly understandable. He hates liberal welfare policies funded by ruinous tax and spend policies. Only sane person in the whole democratic senate that wont keep voting on policies that will worsen historic inflation. The fact they keeo trying to twist his arm and bully him into submission like the American Rescue Plan is the definition of insanity.

Democrats should consider themselves lucky they are in the majority because of him and they can bring their bills to a vote and have been confirming D judges including Jackson. Ds would have gotten squat with McConnel in charge but I bet Biden would be way more popular than he is now.


Bizarre that Manchin would harbor such hate for welfare policies given that after New Mexico, his own state's residents, his own constituents have the second highest per capita rate of dependency on food stamps and other welfare programs. And Manchin has done absolutely nothing to actually help his state's constituents get out of that situation and in fact does everything he can to hold them back.

And, this yet again speaks to the total cognitive dissonance of rural white people in red West Virginia thinking we need to "end welfare" because they still fully embrace the stereotypes and think welfare and food stamps is all about mooching black baby mammas on crack with kids by 6 different absentee felon dads in Detroit or NYC living large on the taxpayer nickel with free apartments, free Obama phones, big screen TVs, eating steak and shrimp every night, as opposed to the reality of it being far more of themselves in West Virginia as the biggest consumers of welfare programs. Distract the poor white people by giving them the idea of poor black people to look down on.


Your solution to ‘West Virginia has so much welfare’ is to pile on MORE welfare? At the expense of the taxpayer? During a 50-year high for inflation?


Your solution is to do nothing and let West Virginians descend into even deeper poverty. I'll take mine over yours.


What is your solution? Start printing more money than we already have for initiatives that have been shown to be either ineffective or wasteful? And you think that will help inflation which is the biggest tax on poor people? I swear it should be required for every elected Democrat to take basic economics and finance courses. As a party they are completely clueless about how it all works. Tax and spend has never been an effective long term strategy but here you are trying it again.
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With friends like Manchin, Democrats don’t need enemies. At least with a Republican in the seat there’s zero pretending there’s a need to collaborate. Instead Manchin strings Democrats along and then blows up their agenda while serving his Koch masters. F him.
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Anonymous wrote:With friends like Manchin, Democrats don’t need enemies. At least with a Republican in the seat there’s zero pretending there’s a need to collaborate. Instead Manchin strings Democrats along and then blows up their agenda while serving his Koch masters. F him.


Manchin is like a blue lobster - a Democrat worthy of respect.
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Anonymous wrote:Coming from Bernie, the fool who helped spoil one election, this is rich.

It is infuriating that two rogue “Democrats” are able to stop everything. Most of Biden’s policies are pretty middle of the road and they’re what millions of Democrats and others voted for.

Its also infuriating that the Repubes are allowed to be regressive jerks who want to ruin America and no one cares.


Hes just salty because he knows he may not be alive when the democrats control the WH and congress again


He's gonna be irrelevant soon. Dems will have a majority in the Senate with the next election.


Dems are projected to lose the House. Go google how to pass a bill.


Those indicators are fizzling fast. Google polling on the tossup and "leans/likely R" districts. Quite a few of them show Dems creeping ahead of their Republican competitors when historically that shouldn't be happening in a mid-term where a Dem is in the White House. Chances of a "red wave" are pretty much gone. The Republicans *could* still take the house but at this point even that is not longer guaranteed. And, don't underestimate how hard Dems will be hitting campaign contributions and hitting polls and GOTV campaigns as a result of the Dobbs ruling. Some of the Dems have been amassing war chests that completely dwarf their R competition.


I remember the Dem war chests of 2020. Historic numbers. They all lost.

Sara Gideon against Susan Collins (ME), Theresa Greenfield against Joni Ernst (IO), Steve Bullock against Steve Daines (MT), Al Gross vs Dan Sullivan (AL), Lindsey Graham against Jaime Harrison (SC), John Corryn and MJ Hegar (TX), Thom Tillis vs Cal Cunningham (NC) and Amy McGrath vs Mitch McConnell (KY).


Several of those Republicans were able to outstrip even the most optimistic polling. Weird, isn’t it, how Republicans magically win by ridiculous amounts, no matter what the polls and the exit polls say.
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