Should FCPS Reassign New Affordable Housing from Marshall to Langley?

[Anonymous]

Yes, they should.

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Anonymous wrote:So I see there’s a meeting about it. Will people bring up concerns about schools in the area and how FCPS will deal with it? Also-is this something that people can bring up to the school board meetings?

Anyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So I see there’s a meeting about it. Will people bring up concerns about schools in the area and how FCPS will deal with it? Also-is this something that people can bring up to the school board meetings?

Anyone?

You can bring it up at any upcoming School Board meeting.

The project will be in the Hunter Mill District - Melanie Meren is the representative.

Marshall HS is in the Providence District - Karl Frisch is the representative.

Langley HS is in the Dranesville District - Elaine Tholen is the representative.

This is a win-win opportunity to use space at Langley, avoid further overcrowding Marshall, and demonstrate that "One Fairfax" isn't an empty slogan. Those who claim it's far away from Langley must not understand the current boundaries or the fact that many students who live further from Langley than Dominion Square West already attend Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The county is planning to build 500 units of new affordable housing in Tysons in the Marshall HS district:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/housing/news/2022/media-advisory-affordable-housing-in-tysons

This is new housing so there are no existing residents with ties to particular schools.

As I understand it, Marshall is at capacity and it’s quite hard to place into Marshall now for IB. Langley on the other hand is still below capacity. Would this not be a good opportunity for FCPS to honor its commitment to equity and One Fairfax by assigning this new development to Langley?

From a capacity perspective it might make sense.

Moving kids around by race and income for “equity” is silly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The county is planning to build 500 units of new affordable housing in Tysons in the Marshall HS district:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/housing/news/2022/media-advisory-affordable-housing-in-tysons

This is new housing so there are no existing residents with ties to particular schools.

As I understand it, Marshall is at capacity and it’s quite hard to place into Marshall now for IB. Langley on the other hand is still below capacity. Would this not be a good opportunity for FCPS to honor its commitment to equity and One Fairfax by assigning this new development to Langley?

From a capacity perspective it might make sense.

Moving kids around by race and income for “equity” is silly.

It’s sensible to assign a new development in an area adjacent to an under-enrolled school’s existing boundaries to that school. If the equity kicker is what it takes to motivate some of the School Board members to take action, so be it. My kid went to Marshall and it’s crazy to overcrowd GCM further when Langley has more space than other schools in the area.

[Anonymous]

Great Falls moves to Herndon

Tysons and parts of McLean move to Langley

Simple. It can be solved in 5 minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The county is planning to build 500 units of new affordable housing in Tysons in the Marshall HS district:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/housing/news/2022/media-advisory-affordable-housing-in-tysons

This is new housing so there are no existing residents with ties to particular schools.

As I understand it, Marshall is at capacity and it’s quite hard to place into Marshall now for IB. Langley on the other hand is still below capacity. Would this not be a good opportunity for FCPS to honor its commitment to equity and One Fairfax by assigning this new development to Langley?

From a capacity perspective it might make sense.

Moving kids around by race and income for “equity” is silly.

It’s not because of equity it’s bc of space. It’s the only school in the vicinity that can take additional students. Further Overcrowding schools in the area bc Langley is 2 more miles further out is BS. And the way it works now, kids way further out than 5 miles “get bused” to attend Langley. And why is it called getting bused only when poor kids do it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The county is planning to build 500 units of new affordable housing in Tysons in the Marshall HS district:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/housing/news/2022/media-advisory-affordable-housing-in-tysons

This is new housing so there are no existing residents with ties to particular schools.

As I understand it, Marshall is at capacity and it’s quite hard to place into Marshall now for IB. Langley on the other hand is still below capacity. Would this not be a good opportunity for FCPS to honor its commitment to equity and One Fairfax by assigning this new development to Langley?

From a capacity perspective it might make sense.

Moving kids around by race and income for “equity” is silly.

It’s not because of equity it’s bc of space. It’s the only school in the vicinity that can take additional students. Further Overcrowding schools in the area bc Langley is 2 more miles further out is BS. And the way it works now, kids way further out than 5 miles “get bused” to attend Langley. And why is it called getting bused only when poor kids do it?

+1. That ship sailed when they spent our money expanding Langley to almost 2400 seats. If they wanted to send more kids to Marshall or McLean they should have expanded those schools, not Langley.

It will be interesting to see if the School Board is paying attention. I can imagine they’ll only be more vulnerable next year if it looks they were asleep again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I know is that if Elaine Tholen and Karl Frisch don't coordinate to assign these new affordable housing units to Langley, they should both be called out for their hypocrisy and neglect of duty.

And Abrar Omeish is concerned about interested students at AP schools not having access to IB at Marshall, which of course becomes even less likely if they load GCM up with more affordable housing.

Mark Frisch won’t care. He’s just a puppet. Don’t get your hopes up. He needs to be recalled or voted out asap. Horrid human who cares more about his own gains than the children he represents. We failed by voting him in!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is that if Elaine Tholen and Karl Frisch don't coordinate to assign these new affordable housing units to Langley, they should both be called out for their hypocrisy and neglect of duty.

And Abrar Omeish is concerned about interested students at AP schools not having access to IB at Marshall, which of course becomes even less likely if they load GCM up with more affordable housing.

Mark Frisch won’t care. He’s just a puppet. Don’t get your hopes up. He needs to be recalled or voted out asap. Horrid human who cares more about his own gains than the children he represents. We failed by voting him in!!

Then we must vote his sorry ass out. Marshall shares a boundary with Langley but the FARMS rate is 6X higher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a tricky spot - it's currently zoned for Marshall, but within a mile or so of the boundaries for Madison, McLean and Langley. If FCPS was strategic (and that's a big IF) this would serve as a catalyst for reviewing Tysons' school zones.

And Marshall will probably get screwed and end up with a much higher FARMS rate than all of the other schools listed.

They don’t already?

[Anonymous]

Yes send them to Langley!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:If you look on a map, this school is closest to Marshall. Why wouldn't the obvious answer be to expand Marshall? I don't understand why this is a hot button issue at all.

Is Marshall at capacity? If so, why would FCPS spend money on an expansion when there is an undercapacity school (Langley) within reasonable distance? Which school would be bumped down the renovation queue to get Marshall more space?

And let's be honest - Marshall recently had a renovation so is in the back of the line. Plus it has no room to expand but up, and that depends on the strength of the existing foundation.
McLean is in desparate need of a renovation/expansion, and is nowhere near the front of the queue.
But Madison is finishing up its renovation/expansion, and Langley has extra room as well. Seems like there are other options here than just expanding Marshall.

Have you seen what's going on in Vienna? Madison is about to explode.

Tear downs to put up 6,000 to 8,000 sq ft homes for families that consist of three people?

You haven't been on 123 in a while have you? They aren't building single family homes anymore.

At $1 million, this is Vienna's version of affordable housing.

https://patch.com/virginia/vienna/heres-what-1-million-townhouse-looks-vienna

I think a rooftop terrace is a great feature, especially since these homes seem to not have yards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is great news. Every Fairfax County district should take on multiple affordable housing developments. Mount Vernon, Mason, and Lee districts have taken on the brunt of the county's affordable housing for too long.[/quote
“ the brunt”

What a nice way to put it.

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Anonymous wrote:They should expand Marshall's capacity. It takes away from the sense of community if you bus kids too far. Especially the demographic that would be in affordable housing.

You’re disgusting.

How is this disgusting? We already know busing is counterproductive. For any demographic.

It’s not busing. Look at the location.

Langley is the furthest away.

Closest - Marshall (by far)
2nd - Madison
3rd - Mclean
4th Langley

You would have these kids get on a bus and pass two high schools to get to their school?

Marshall is at capacity already, you’d be creating an attendance island at Madison, and McLean is one of the most overcrowded schools in FCPS.

They should use the capacity where it’s available and right now that’s Langley. How do you think Great Falls ended up at Langley when it’s closer to Herndon and South Lakes.

Ask Omeish or the retired Pat Hynes, they’ll tell you it’s due to racism.