Should FCPS Reassign New Affordable Housing from Marshall to Langley?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any potential residential developments that might come online in the next say 5-10 years that would provide a similarly substantial opportunity to add some much-needed SES diversity to Langley that are within or very near the current Langley boundaries... or is this the only realistic opportunity to do so? If there are, please indicate the location.

“Needed”

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Are Langley students suffering?

That’s just the concern troll speaking. She’s so very worried about the SES diversity of schools that her kids don’t attend.

DP. Isn’t a commitment to diversity of one of FCPS’s core values? Is there an asterisk where Langley is concerned?

All FCPS high schools are diverse.

FCPS is supposed to keep the main thing the main thing.

Exactly. Funny how FCPS actually *was* an excellent school system - long before this misplaced focus on "equity".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any potential residential developments that might come online in the next say 5-10 years that would provide a similarly substantial opportunity to add some much-needed SES diversity to Langley that are within or very near the current Langley boundaries... or is this the only realistic opportunity to do so? If there are, please indicate the location.

“Needed”

?

Are Langley students suffering?

That’s just the concern troll speaking. She’s so very worried about the SES diversity of schools that her kids don’t attend.

DP. Isn’t a commitment to diversity of one of FCPS’s core values? Is there an asterisk where Langley is concerned?

All FCPS high schools are diverse.

FCPS is supposed to keep the main thing the main thing.

Langley is not economically diverse. Since it has more excess capacity than any other school in that area, they can add diversity and use capacity at the same time.

So?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any potential residential developments that might come online in the next say 5-10 years that would provide a similarly substantial opportunity to add some much-needed SES diversity to Langley that are within or very near the current Langley boundaries... or is this the only realistic opportunity to do so? If there are, please indicate the location.

“Needed”

?

Are Langley students suffering?

That’s just the concern troll speaking. She’s so very worried about the SES diversity of schools that her kids don’t attend.

DP. Isn’t a commitment to diversity of one of FCPS’s core values? Is there an asterisk where Langley is concerned?

All FCPS high schools are diverse.

FCPS is supposed to keep the main thing the main thing.

Langley is not economically diverse. Since it has more excess capacity than any other school in that area, they can add diversity and use capacity at the same time.

It would have had more poor kids if the school board didn’t block Jane Strauss.

Nevertheless, there is no mandate for them to add a certain amount of poor/rich/middle class children to any school.

+1
The idea that low-income kids (or people in general) are somehow morally "better" is so insulting. It's like the "magical Negro" trope. People are people. Some are good, some are bad - and income has zero to do with character.

[Anonymous]

Still sounds like the answer is yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still sounds like the answer is yes.

Since no one here makes those decisions, take it up with the school board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any potential residential developments that might come online in the next say 5-10 years that would provide a similarly substantial opportunity to add some much-needed SES diversity to Langley that are within or very near the current Langley boundaries... or is this the only realistic opportunity to do so? If there are, please indicate the location.

“Needed”

?

Are Langley students suffering?

That’s just the concern troll speaking. She’s so very worried about the SES diversity of schools that her kids don’t attend.

DP. Isn’t a commitment to diversity of one of FCPS’s core values? Is there an asterisk where Langley is concerned?

All FCPS high schools are diverse.

FCPS is supposed to keep the main thing the main thing.

Exactly. Funny how FCPS actually *was* an excellent school system - long before this misplaced focus on "equity".

Certain schools were and are excellent. Other schools were and still are terrible

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still sounds like the answer is yes.

Since no one here makes those decisions, take it up with the school board.

I wouldn’t foreclose the possibility some School Board members read these threads.

[Anonymous]

https://www.ffxnow.com/2022/06/07/tysons-all-affordable-housing-high-rises-community-center-skyparks-planned/

More affordable housing than originally planned at Dominion Square West - all zoned to Marshall.

Even more affordable housing is planned in the Marshall district off Old Meadow Road: https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2022/03/24/capital-one-somos-at-tysons

It doesn't seem right to load up GCM with AH and not assign any to under-enrolled Langley.

[Anonymous]

No thanks, if you want diversity you go to Marshall

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any potential residential developments that might come online in the next say 5-10 years that would provide a similarly substantial opportunity to add some much-needed SES diversity to Langley that are within or very near the current Langley boundaries... or is this the only realistic opportunity to do so? If there are, please indicate the location.

“Needed”

?

Are Langley students suffering?

That’s just the concern troll speaking. She’s so very worried about the SES diversity of schools that her kids don’t attend.

DP. Isn’t a commitment to diversity of one of FCPS’s core values? Is there an asterisk where Langley is concerned?

All FCPS high schools are diverse.

FCPS is supposed to keep the main thing the main thing.

Exactly. Funny how FCPS actually *was* an excellent school system - long before this misplaced focus on "equity".

Certain schools were and are excellent. Other schools were and still are terrible

This.

All the whining on equity has become little more than political buzzwords. It's tiresome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No thanks, if you want diversity you go to Marshall

So you just sit back and watch the county add almost all the affordable housing in the Tysons area to the Marshall district. I'm sure everyone who purchased a house zoned for GCM knew this was what the BOS and SB always had in mind. In a few years they'll move the most expensive parts of the Marshall district to Madison, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No thanks, if you want diversity you go to Marshall

So you just sit back and watch the county add almost all the affordable housing in the Tysons area to the Marshall district. I'm sure everyone who purchased a house zoned for GCM knew this was what the BOS and SB always had in mind. In a few years they'll move the most expensive parts of the Marshall district to Madison, too.

I'm glad you now understand what those of us at Annandale, Lewis, Mt Vernon, and Justice have gone through. Although I know most people in the Marshall pyramid don't care about those four pyramids, I hope this had made them aware of the immense disparity that is created between neighboring schools when the Board decides to concentrate one pyramid with poverty and avoids assigning poverty at the adjacent school. FCPS is currently a "Two Fairfax" model and Marshall may be on the way to joining the "wrong" side of FCPS.

This is why the battle for equity is the only way all schools win. The only fair solution to avoid some schools being completely undesirable is to make all schools equally desirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No thanks, if you want diversity you go to Marshall

So you just sit back and watch the county add almost all the affordable housing in the Tysons area to the Marshall district. I'm sure everyone who purchased a house zoned for GCM knew this was what the BOS and SB always had in mind. In a few years they'll move the most expensive parts of the Marshall district to Madison, too.

I'm glad you now understand what those of us at Annandale, Lewis, Mt Vernon, and Justice have gone through. Although I know most people in the Marshall pyramid don't care about those four pyramids, I hope this had made them aware of the immense disparity that is created between neighboring schools when the Board decides to concentrate one pyramid with poverty and avoids assigning poverty at the adjacent school. FCPS is currently a "Two Fairfax" model and Marshall may be on the way to joining the "wrong" side of FCPS.

This is why the battle for equity is the only way all schools win. The only fair solution to avoid some schools being completely undesirable is to make all schools equally desirable.

How do you go about making Mt Vernon as desirable as Langley?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No thanks, if you want diversity you go to Marshall

So you just sit back and watch the county add almost all the affordable housing in the Tysons area to the Marshall district. I'm sure everyone who purchased a house zoned for GCM knew this was what the BOS and SB always had in mind. In a few years they'll move the most expensive parts of the Marshall district to Madison, too.

I'm glad you now understand what those of us at Annandale, Lewis, Mt Vernon, and Justice have gone through. Although I know most people in the Marshall pyramid don't care about those four pyramids, I hope this had made them aware of the immense disparity that is created between neighboring schools when the Board decides to concentrate one pyramid with poverty and avoids assigning poverty at the adjacent school. FCPS is currently a "Two Fairfax" model and Marshall may be on the way to joining the "wrong" side of FCPS.

This is why the battle for equity is the only way all schools win. The only fair solution to avoid some schools being completely undesirable is to make all schools equally desirable.

Marshall's future is looking somewhat like what's happened at Annandale and Lewis where they changed the boundaries and concentrated poverty at those schools. It won't be to the same extent because Tysons has more high-end areas but it will still happen absent School Board intervention. Justice is a different situation. There is just a lot of poverty within its existing boundaries near the Arlington and Alexandria borders. My understanding is that they are expanding Justice so it won't lose some of its wealthiest neighborhoods to other schools (Falls Church, Annandale). The only thing I know about Mount Vernon is that they are doing a monster expansion of West Potomac rather than use the existing capacity at Mount Vernon. That sends a pretty negative message about the school to the community.

[Anonymous]

If you are familiar with the boundaries and know where FCPS has spent or is spending money, it's clear they are on the path to maintaining/creating two very rich high schools - Langley and Madison - and letting all the other schools get poorer. It's probably no coincidence there are several School Board members (Tholen, Meren, Keys Gamarra) who live in the Langley or Madison districts, and no SB member who lives in the Marshall district.