MCPS HS Start-times need to be changed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

No they don't. Your lazy inertia does

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

No they don't. Your lazy inertia does

A fix implies there was an actual problem which is not the case the OP has an opinion and wants a change because it would be more convenient for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Younger kids are not high school kids. Your kids are probably not having homework and multiple activities, some twice a night do you don’t get it. They are not healthier. Going to bed at a decent hour is. So, if you had later start times, my kids could not start homework till after nine vs coming home, homework and early dinner then activities.

God you are dumb. Teens have a different biological internal clock. “Going to bed at a decent hour” does not work with their internal clock. Dumb as a box of rocks.

They are not going to upend all the middle and elementary kids’ schedules so your precious, precious high school snowflakes can sleep in. “Dumb as a box of rocks” indeed.

My ES student is generally up by 630am yet school doesn’t start until 930. Does yours go to bed too late? I could see how an earlier bedtime might be inconvenient for you.

Again idiot, I can see how biology is not something you can get a grasp of. Teens have a different natural sleep pattern. I know that is inconvenient for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

It is scientifically backed and the AAP does not recommend school start times for middle and high before 8:30.

+1. Other states do this and it would improve school performance. It’s natural for teens to sleep later, it’s necessary to their health and growth. This has been studies and proven and why many states implemented schools beginning later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

No they don't. Your lazy inertia does

Exactly. How is a huge state like CA able to do it across the entire state but MCPS just throws up its hands and says impossible. That is pathetic. If this is the mindset here, no wonder MCPS schools are getting worse.

[Anonymous]

How does one propose to get mcps to reconsider? It would need to be brought up collectively by parents. But it that done?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

No they don't. Your lazy inertia does

Exactly. How is a huge state like CA able to do it across the entire state but MCPS just throws up its hands and says impossible. That is pathetic. If this is the mindset here, no wonder MCPS schools are getting worse.

Where did MCPS said it was impossible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

No they don't. Your lazy inertia does

Exactly. How is a huge state like CA able to do it across the entire state but MCPS just throws up its hands and says impossible. That is pathetic. If this is the mindset here, no wonder MCPS schools are getting worse.

Where did MCPS said it was impossible?

I’m the the poster who wrote that mcps said that. However, they didn’t make the change so…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

LOL. HS start-times "NEED to be change"? Says who? DCUM warriors?
Man, the arrogance and the entitlement mentality of DCUM karens are incredible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

LOL. HS start-times "NEED to be change"? Says who? DCUM warriors?
Man, the arrogance and the entitlement mentality of DCUM karens are incredible.

Did you read any of the links? Why speak when you have no clue?
There is a huge body of research that says that teens need at least 9 hours of sleep because of all the brain growth and reorganisation happening at this age range and that their biological clock shifts so they are primed to feel sleepy later at night and get up later in the morning.
It turns out teenagers are not mini adults. Most states and private schools have acknowledged this research and have made changes. MCPS as usual has its collective head stuck in the sand. Lack of sleep is one reason mental health experts say we are seeing so many mental health issues in teenagers. ADD symptoms also get worse with lack of sleep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

LOL. HS start-times "NEED to be change"? Says who? DCUM warriors?
Man, the arrogance and the entitlement mentality of DCUM karens are incredible.

Did you read any of the links? Why speak when you have no clue?
There is a huge body of research that says that teens need at least 9 hours of sleep because of all the brain growth and reorganisation happening at this age range and that their biological clock shifts so they are primed to feel sleepy later at night and get up later in the morning.
It turns out teenagers are not mini adults. Most states and private schools have acknowledged this research and have made changes. MCPS as usual has its collective head stuck in the sand. Lack of sleep is one reason mental health experts say we are seeing so many mental health issues in teenagers. ADD symptoms also get worse with lack of sleep

This is correct. A teen’s natural circadian clock shifts and it is difficult for them to fall asleep earlier than 11 pm and they need at least 9 hours of sleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

LOL. HS start-times "NEED to be change"? Says who? DCUM warriors?
Man, the arrogance and the entitlement mentality of DCUM karens are incredible.

Read about teen’s circadian clock schedule. You are entitled and arrogant.
The Karen thing is past it’s prime idiot.

[Anonymous]

Everyone who is proposing "one simple answer" to this problem really needs to read the bell times study from a few years ago and address the barriers in that document.

If you have "one simple fix" that simultaneously moves HS bell times later AND addresses the logistical/financial challenges laid out in the report, please bring it to the school board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone who is proposing "one simple answer" to this problem really needs to read the bell times study from a few years ago and address the barriers in that document.

If you have "one simple fix" that simultaneously moves HS bell times later AND addresses the logistical/financial challenges laid out in the report, please bring it to the school board.

I wouldn’t know how to do that but if someone could I would support it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Younger kids are not high school kids. Your kids are probably not having homework and multiple activities, some twice a night do you don’t get it. They are not healthier. Going to bed at a decent hour is. So, if you had later start times, my kids could not start homework till after nine vs coming home, homework and early dinner then activities.

God you are dumb. Teens have a different biological internal clock. “Going to bed at a decent hour” does not work with their internal clock. Dumb as a box of rocks.

They are not going to upend all the middle and elementary kids’ schedules so your precious, precious high school snowflakes can sleep in. “Dumb as a box of rocks” indeed.

My ES student is generally up by 630am yet school doesn’t start until 930. Does yours go to bed too late? I could see how an earlier bedtime might be inconvenient for you.

Again idiot, I can see how biology is not something you can get a grasp of. Teens have a different natural sleep pattern. I know that is inconvenient for you.

Pardon? Do you need more sleep yourself?