MCPS HS Start-times need to be changed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is routinely done in other states including one we came from. MCPS is in fact behind on this.

MCPS is behind in so many things. MCPS is also too large so that it’s incredibly difficult to make any changes.

OP, I agree that the HS times should be later and ES should be earlier.

I have a HS kid and an ES kid. My kids were DONE by 4pm because we are at one of the later starting schools (start at 9:20). Most ES kids would do better earlier in the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

They looked into this a few years ago. Not. Going. To. Happen.

They need busses to run three routes, HS, MS, ES (not enough busses as is - and some in the county want more kids bussed further in the name of desegregation, but I digress).

Many families in MoCo need their HS students to watch their ES students after school (which means HS students need to be done sooner to pick up and watch ES students)

Many HS students in MoCo work after school to help support their family. As in help pay the rent and put food on the table. They can't be in school later, because they need to work.

Many HS sports and activities and also outside sports and activities happen after school. If school were later Many would have trouble attending and/or they'd get out so late it would defeat the purpose.

While none of the above may apply to YOUR family, they do formany, many other families. So get over it, because, Not. Going. To. Happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is routinely done in other states including one we came from. MCPS is in fact behind on this.

MCPS is behind in so many things. MCPS is also too large so that it’s incredibly difficult to make any changes.

OP, I agree that the HS times should be later and ES should be earlier.

I have a HS kid and an ES kid. My kids were DONE by 4pm because we are at one of the later starting schools (start at 9:20). Most ES kids would do better earlier in the day.

That's complete nonsense. We benefit from the larger scale in so many ways.

Further, the county did extensive research on this and the consensus among experts was that later start times for ES kids were the priority.

You people just like to complain and complain about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

Sounds like you are behind the curve. This has been covered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS behind the curve on this important issue. There is so much research on the topic that teenagers need more sleep and that their biological clocks are wired for them to go to bed later and wake up later. CA is requiring all high schools to start no earlier than 8.30 am starting this fall:

https://hhsepitaph.com/12665/news/california-law-requires-new-bell-schedule-with-830-a-m-start-time/

They looked into this a few years ago. Not. Going. To. Happen.

They need busses to run three routes, HS, MS, ES (not enough busses as is - and some in the county want more kids bussed further in the name of desegregation, but I digress).

Many families in MoCo need their HS students to watch their ES students after school (which means HS students need to be done sooner to pick up and watch ES students)

Many HS students in MoCo work after school to help support their family. As in help pay the rent and put food on the table. They can't be in school later, because they need to work.

Many HS sports and activities and also outside sports and activities happen after school. If school were later Many would have trouble attending and/or they'd get out so late it would defeat the purpose.

While none of the above may apply to YOUR family, they do formany, many other families. So get over it, because, Not. Going. To. Happen.

Finally someone with a grip on reality!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

This is why i think all public schools should be restricted to operating between the hours of 8:30am and 3:00pm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

This is why i think all public schools should be restricted to operating between the hours of 8:30am and 3:00pm.

Great now get all county and state gov’t to agree on walkable communities and worthy public transportation and this could be somewhat viable. Also need to increase meaningful after-school enrichment and childcare and convince most of the business world that most employees won’t be in before 9am. I’m dure these family values plans are top of the agenda.

[Anonymous]

Just curious, what time do your high school students in MCPS go to bed and wake up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

This is why i think all public schools should be restricted to operating between the hours of 8:30am and 3:00pm.

Great now get all county and state gov’t to agree on walkable communities and worthy public transportation and this could be somewhat viable. Also need to increase meaningful after-school enrichment and childcare and convince most of the business world that most employees won’t be in before 9am. I’m sure these family values plans are top of the agenda.

The first issue you brought up could be solved by properly funding school transportation, as for after school enrichment that is not a necessity students are overloaded as it is, and as for the final issue school scheduling has nothing to do with employee scheduling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

This is why i think all public schools should be restricted to operating between the hours of 8:30am and 3:00pm.

Great if you are willing to drive your kids.

[Anonymous]

Every year the parents of high schoolers or almost high schoolers start this same thread. It is not going to change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Younger kids are not high school kids. Your kids are probably not having homework and multiple activities, some twice a night do you don’t get it. They are not healthier. Going to bed at a decent hour is. So, if you had later start times, my kids could not start homework till after nine vs coming home, homework and early dinner then activities.

God you are dumb. Teens have a different biological internal clock. “Going to bed at a decent hour” does not work with their internal clock. Dumb as a box of rocks.

They are not going to upend all the middle and elementary kids’ schedules so your precious, precious high school snowflakes can sleep in. “Dumb as a box of rocks” indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is unless you get a later bus drivers and put start and end times closer together it can’t work for everyone. I love somewhere where the times wet reversed. There were a lot more kids in after school care because ES dismissed before 3pm. Not to mentioned trying to get ES kids up and out the door to the bus stop in the morning dark wasn’t fun for many parents. Imagine your ES kids bus time being 6:50am.

Now imagine them being walkers and hit by a car because it’s dark outside