MCPS HS Start-times need to be changed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

This is why i think all public schools should be restricted to operating between the hours of 8:30am and 3:00pm.

That's a nice idea, but you don't seem to grasp the financial or logistical ramifications of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Younger kids are not high school kids. Your kids are probably not having homework and multiple activities, some twice a night do you don’t get it. They are not healthier. Going to bed at a decent hour is. So, if you had later start times, my kids could not start homework till after nine vs coming home, homework and early dinner then activities.

God you are dumb. Teens have a different biological internal clock. “Going to bed at a decent hour” does not work with their internal clock. Dumb as a box of rocks.

They are not going to upend all the middle and elementary kids’ schedules so your precious, precious high school snowflakes can sleep in. “Dumb as a box of rocks” indeed.

Those kids don't matter! Precious should be their top priority! Okay, I'm being sarcastic but the OP seems incredibly entitled with no regard for others or the broader impact of these decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Younger kids are not high school kids. Your kids are probably not having homework and multiple activities, some twice a night do you don’t get it. They are not healthier. Going to bed at a decent hour is. So, if you had later start times, my kids could not start homework till after nine vs coming home, homework and early dinner then activities.

God you are dumb. Teens have a different biological internal clock. “Going to bed at a decent hour” does not work with their internal clock. Dumb as a box of rocks.

They are not going to upend all the middle and elementary kids’ schedules so your precious, precious high school snowflakes can sleep in. “Dumb as a box of rocks” indeed.

Those kids don't matter! Precious should be their top priority! Okay, I'm being sarcastic but the OP seems incredibly entitled with no regard for others or the broader impact of these decisions.

Ohhh, your precious elementary and middle school snowflakes can’t get upended! Tone deaf and dumber than a box of rocks.
Broader impart, you’re stupid. It’s done in all other states, omg, it’s disaster!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

A too early start time is a problem. Not parenting issue moron, it’s biological. You need to follow you own advice, life isn’t fair.

[Anonymous]

I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

It is scientifically backed and the AAP does not recommend school start times for middle and high before 8:30.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

It is scientifically backed and the AAP does not recommend school start times for middle and high before 8:30.

You seem to lack reading comprehension. Nobody is disputing whether it’s best, but whether it’s possible without exceeding reasonable and approved expenses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a high school teacher and I wish some of you parents who are against this could come see period 1 classes in high school. One-third of the students have their head down and are asleep. Another handful come late or miss period 1 because they overslept. A few other kids are awake but look tired and say they cannot focus because they are too tired. It is a complete waste. All the teachers at my school complain about the same thing. We feel so bad for the kids because we know that teenagers have a later biological clock and also need more sleep.

Of course, and they are right, but logistics prevent a fix

It is scientifically backed and the AAP does not recommend school start times for middle and high before 8:30.

You seem to lack reading comprehension. Nobody is disputing whether it’s best, but whether it’s possible without exceeding reasonable and approved expenses.

You seem to be lacking reading comprehension yourself. There is nothing in my writing disputing expenses.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, continue a bad practice because otherwise it would cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. They should have ES kids go to schools early and HS go late, if they need to stagger bus times.

No they shouldn't, I'm currently dealing with a 10 year old who is pissed off because his school starts an hour earlier than his brother brother and it's forcing them to have different bed times, it's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents who have to deal with the fallout.

Sounds like a parenting issue not school. Life is not fair.

However with activities and sports and homework a late stoptime is a huge problem.

This is why i think all public schools should be restricted to operating between the hours of 8:30am and 3:00pm.

That's a nice idea, but you don't seem to grasp the financial or logistical ramifications of the problem.

Our school district is so underfunded that they're still using busses from the 70s but they still have synchronized schedules, no excuses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Agreed. And for all those who wring their hands about the complicated logistics of interchanging HS and ES start times, that’s reflective of MCPS leadership in general. Anything too-hard should be abandoned rather than assembling a team with problem solving skills to figure it out. Later HS start times are actually becoming more common so there are likely more examples across the US than there were even a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, continue a bad practice because otherwise it would cost.

And no one considers the long term benefits of improving student performance, which may cut down on other costs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, have you stopped to consider later start time would be an issue with activities and homework? If kids don't get home till 4:30, everything would just be shifted later and kids would go to bed later, so that really doesn't fix anything.

That's funny. My younger kids go to private school and go to bed at reasonable times, even with activities. Late start times are so much healthier for teens. It's not like there is any medical expert who disagrees. It's funny how so many people claim to be concerned about kids' mental health but aren't willing to entertain this universally agreed-upon adjustment that would benefit the health of teenagers.

Younger kids are not high school kids. Your kids are probably not having homework and multiple activities, some twice a night do you don’t get it. They are not healthier. Going to bed at a decent hour is. So, if you had later start times, my kids could not start homework till after nine vs coming home, homework and early dinner then activities.

God you are dumb. Teens have a different biological internal clock. “Going to bed at a decent hour” does not work with their internal clock. Dumb as a box of rocks.

They are not going to upend all the middle and elementary kids’ schedules so your precious, precious high school snowflakes can sleep in. “Dumb as a box of rocks” indeed.

My ES student is generally up by 630am yet school doesn’t start until 930. Does yours go to bed too late? I could see how an earlier bedtime might be inconvenient for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How would that work with buses? Are you willing to drive your kids? Your kids need to live in the real world. If they are not getting enough sleep, be a parent and have them go to bed earlier.

It would work the same way it works in places that implement it. DUH.