A house for sale on a magical street in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:The interior is a mess. Exterior is lovely. Can't believe that price.

Did you mix up interior and exterior? Because that house has horrible curb appeal.

That house could have nice curb appeal. Agree it certainly does not as it is right now.

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Nothing to stop a black buyer from buying in Bethesda.

In short, not my issue if they chose not to buy in Bethesda.

Yeah, the absence of a single Black family in that neighborhood -- which previously had restrictive covenants preventing them moving in -- is all on their personal choice.

Wonder if that kind of thinking is prevalent in "magical" Greenwich Forest. I've heard it's a great place for people who are comfortable living in a community without any Blacks.

When was the restriction removed?
2000, 1990, 1980, 1970?
I wonder how many owners are still in the neighborhood from these days.

All restrictive covenants based on race were outlawed by the Fair Housing Act of 1968.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the world was this home sold for $1.75M in 2002 and 18 years later sold again for only $1.15M? How did this sell for $600K below the 2002 price? Also, that was a really, really high sales for 2002!

Mentioned above that it was a foreclosure.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the world was this home sold for $1.75M in 2002 and 18 years later sold again for only $1.15M? How did this sell for $600K below the 2002 price? Also, that was a really, really high sales for 2002!

Mentioned above that it was a foreclosure.

Sorry I missed that. Thank you!

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What are you proposing? That the house gets offered at a lower price to black buyers only? That the neighbors chip in funds to help a black buyer purchase the property as a way to remedy past wrongs? You haven't put any concrete solution on the table for the problem you identified.

I don't have a 'solution' and never pretended I did (hyperbolic overreaction is usually the recourse of people with bad arguments). But in the midst of the gushing here about how that Bethesda neighborhood is "magical," it's certainly worth noting that particular neighborhood (which used to have restrictive covenants on the deeds) was still devoid of ANY Black residents as recently as 23 months ago. Which is weird for the 2020's and weird for DMV. I would have left it there except that some poster(s) pushed back to suggest that point isn't relevant. It is. For some people - not just Blacks -- the fact that the entire neighborhood has no Black residents is a significant anomaly and drawback, and relative to other neighborhoods isn't the kind of environment where for example they'd wish to live or raise their kids. And trying to dismiss that hard data point as irrelevant -- the Black population of that magical neighborhood hasn't changed since it was (quasi-) legally prohibited -- really beggars belief on a DCUM real estate discussion where people will gladly devote page after page of comment to their feelings about say the relative merits of hardwood vs LVP or the perceived ambience of various neighborhood shopping centers.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the link:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7814-Hampden-Ln-Bethesda-MD-20814/37171181_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

This house is nice and the pricing seems to fit. Talk about a night and day difference!

Agreed. This house looks like it was updated by someone who actually lives there - lovingly done, though slightly dated. Very different than the listing in the OP.

Exactly, I’m kind of shocked. Does it pay for flippers to have such good taste? Although they really should’ve used some of the budget for landscaping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Nothing to stop a black buyer from buying in Bethesda.

In short, not my issue if they chose not to buy in Bethesda.

Yeah, the absence of a single Black family in that neighborhood -- which previously had restrictive covenants preventing them moving in -- is all on their personal choice.

Wonder if that kind of thinking is prevalent in "magical" Greenwich Forest. I've heard it's a great place for people who are comfortable living in a community without any Blacks.

People in Bethesda tend to be highly educated, and choose to live there for a reason (to live among other highly educated people). They would likely be welcoming to any new neighbor, so long as the new neighbor makes an effort to take care of their house and doesn't create a lot of noise or problems.

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People in Bethesda tend to be highly educated, and choose to live there for a reason (to live among other highly educated people). They would likely be welcoming to any new neighbor, so long as the new neighbor makes an effort to take care of their house and doesn't create a lot of noise or problems.

Stop digging -- you're embarrassing yourself. Telling Blacks "we'd welcome you in our neighborhood as long as you take care of your house and don't create noise or problems" isn't as welcoming as you think. If you lived in a neighborhood with Black residents maybe they could explain to you.

According to 2020 census data, the Black population share in Potomac (6.2%) and Chevy Chase (5.9%) is almost 50% higher than that of Bethesda (4.2%). At some point the residents of Bethesda might stop congratulating themselves on their highly educated attitudes and wonder why that is.

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A magical street? Like you'd find in "Europe"? Where, exactly?!

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Well, I just spent an enjoyable half hour down the rabbit hole researching the house’s former owner. Would be very curious to know who is behind the “13 Enterprises LLC” that apparently is the current owner of the home. I have a question for anyone knowledgeable about the foreclosure process: are there circumstances under which you can get your home back after a bank has foreclosed if you come up with enough cash?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I just spent an enjoyable half hour down the rabbit hole researching the house’s former owner. Would be very curious to know who is behind the “13 Enterprises LLC” that apparently is the current owner of the home. I have a question for anyone knowledgeable about the foreclosure process: are there circumstances under which you can get your home back after a bank has foreclosed if you come up with enough cash?

Yes, I believe you can go to the foreclosure auction at the courthouse with cash and accomplish this. Interested to hear from others, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Can honestly say I’m not a fan of the interior, at all.

+1 The outside is nice and I’m sure it looks a million times better in spring/summer. But I don’t much care for any of the interior.

It looks like the inside of all the other new builds around here. It's the same house over and over. Don't like the billion different tile floors. To many rooms with two steps up or down from other rooms. WTF?

way over priced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What are you proposing? That the house gets offered at a lower price to black buyers only? That the neighbors chip in funds to help a black buyer purchase the property as a way to remedy past wrongs? You haven't put any concrete solution on the table for the problem you identified.

I don't have a 'solution' and never pretended I did (hyperbolic overreaction is usually the recourse of people with bad arguments). But in the midst of the gushing here about how that Bethesda neighborhood is "magical," it's certainly worth noting that particular neighborhood (which used to have restrictive covenants on the deeds) was still devoid of ANY Black residents as recently as 23 months ago. Which is weird for the 2020's and weird for DMV. I would have left it there except that some poster(s) pushed back to suggest that point isn't relevant. It is. For some people - not just Blacks -- the fact that the entire neighborhood has no Black residents is a significant anomaly and drawback, and relative to other neighborhoods isn't the kind of environment where for example they'd wish to live or raise their kids. And trying to dismiss that hard data point as irrelevant -- the Black population of that magical neighborhood hasn't changed since it was (quasi-) legally prohibited -- really beggars belief on a DCUM real estate discussion where people will gladly devote page after page of comment to their feelings about say the relative merits of hardwood vs LVP or the perceived ambience of various neighborhood shopping centers.

This part of Bethesda, including the areas without the covenant, don’t have a high minority population to begin with. So I think the problem is much larger than this magical street.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I just spent an enjoyable half hour down the rabbit hole researching the house’s former owner. Would be very curious to know who is behind the “13 Enterprises LLC” that apparently is the current owner of the home. I have a question for anyone knowledgeable about the foreclosure process: are there circumstances under which you can get your home back after a bank has foreclosed if you come up with enough cash?

Yes, I believe you can go to the foreclosure auction at the courthouse with cash and accomplish this. Interested to hear from others, too.

The LLC's address is on the SDAT record page.

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It’s stripped of all personality and the street has no sidewalks. Yuk.