A house for sale on a magical street in Bethesda

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People in Bethesda tend to be highly educated, and choose to live there for a reason (to live among other highly educated people). They would likely be welcoming to any new neighbor, so long as the new neighbor makes an effort to take care of their house and doesn't create a lot of noise or problems.

Stop digging -- you're embarrassing yourself. Telling Blacks "we'd welcome you in our neighborhood as long as you take care of your house and don't create noise or problems" isn't as welcoming as you think. If you lived in a neighborhood with Black residents maybe they could explain to you.

According to 2020 census data, the Black population share in Potomac (6.2%) and Chevy Chase (5.9%) is almost 50% higher than that of Bethesda (4.2%). At some point the residents of Bethesda might stop congratulating themselves on their highly educated attitudes and wonder why that is.

No matter where you live, this is a basic expectation - take care of the exterior of the house and don't create problems. We feel obliged to do this, regardless of our race.

In our neighborhood, because of how the history has played out, the houses with poor exterior maintenance tend to be the homes of older black homeowners who can no longer keep up with it and can’t afford to outsource. So it can be a sticky issue that, like everything else, gets tied up in our ongoing racial history.

Yes, and when my elderly white parents could no longer keep up their house they sold it and moved into a place they could afford. Skin color has nothing to do with this, my parents were/are working lc and have been all their lives. They scrimped and saved for every repair, every single item they own. Are you saying I should pay for black elderly residents to improve their homes? No one offered to help my parents with the roof they could not afford, or the painting that badly needed to be done. And I surely couldn't afford to improve their home since I have a family and home to support. But hey, wtf, they're not POC so who gives two f s?

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People in Bethesda tend to be highly educated, and choose to live there for a reason (to live among other highly educated people). They would likely be welcoming to any new neighbor, so long as the new neighbor makes an effort to take care of their house and doesn't create a lot of noise or problems.

Stop digging -- you're embarrassing yourself. Telling Blacks "we'd welcome you in our neighborhood as long as you take care of your house and don't create noise or problems" isn't as welcoming as you think. If you lived in a neighborhood with Black residents maybe they could explain to you.

According to 2020 census data, the Black population share in Potomac (6.2%) and Chevy Chase (5.9%) is almost 50% higher than that of Bethesda (4.2%). At some point the residents of Bethesda might stop congratulating themselves on their highly educated attitudes and wonder why that is.

No matter where you live, this is a basic expectation - take care of the exterior of the house and don't create problems. We feel obliged to do this, regardless of our race.

In our neighborhood, because of how the history has played out, the houses with poor exterior maintenance tend to be the homes of older black homeowners who can no longer keep up with it and can’t afford to outsource. So it can be a sticky issue that, like everything else, gets tied up in our ongoing racial history.

Yes, and when my elderly white parents could no longer keep up their house they sold it and moved into a place they could afford. Skin color has nothing to do with this, my parents were/are working lc and have been all their lives. They scrimped and saved for every repair, every single item they own. Are you saying I should pay for black elderly residents to improve their homes? No one offered to help my parents with the roof they could not afford, or the painting that badly needed to be done. And I surely couldn't afford to improve their home since I have a family and home to support. But hey, wtf, they're not POC so who gives two f s?

We helped our aging neighbors to upkeep their front yard but they still need to spend money to take care the painting and fix up the house. We notice that there was a hole on the floor in their kitchen and the inside of the house looked like a dump after they moved out. Aging is depressing, no metter if you are black, brown or white.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s stripped of all personality and the street has no sidewalks. Yuk.

The streets having no sidewalks is exactly part of the charm. These are wide streets and pedestrian friendly.

Streets without sidewalks are not pedestrian friendly.

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I would hate to live in a neighborhood without sidewalks. I don’t want to walk in the street. I think the whole point was to discourage walking in the first place, so you wouldn’t have riffraff walking about.

Idk, this kind of neighborhood is not for me. It’s pretty but nothing about it has changed except explicitly barring people based on race. It’s still intentionally homogeneous and very restrictive. I don’t deny that feels “easy” and “nice” but I’m not sure it really is.

I thought that the lack of sidewalks in Bethesda was just Montgomery County being cheap, back when the neighborhoods were developed. Trust me that people that live in Bethesda now definitely do complain about the lack of sidewalks. Many of us bought houses here without noticing that there were no sidewalks in the neighborhood. (Another example of cheapness when the area was developed -- above-ground power lines all throughout Bethesda.)

It wasn’t cheapness at all, it was part of the marketing of a “country” environment. Private, everyone has a car, and random people don’t just walk by your house.

+1 from my grandparents who moved from 14th and Park Road, buying one of the original homes in Green Acres.

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Yes, and when my elderly white parents could no longer keep up their house they sold it and moved into a place they could afford. Skin color has nothing to do with this, my parents were/are working lc and have been all their lives. They scrimped and saved for every repair, every single item they own. Are you saying I should pay for black elderly residents to improve their homes? No one offered to help my parents with the roof they could not afford, or the painting that badly needed to be done. And I surely couldn't afford to improve their home since I have a family and home to support. But hey, wtf, they're not POC so who gives two f s?

You're fragile, bitter, and keep projecting -- with no basis in fact -- that commenters here are asking you to pay for special benefits for people of color.

The earlier point about elderly Black people in PP's neighborhood not being able to afford to maintain their house is interesting but a red herring here. Any qualified Black purchasers of this house in Apartheid Acres or whatever the name of this magical neighborhood is won't face that constraint. Indeed, it seems many of the Black families in my (marginally more integrated) MontCo neighborhood are on firmer financial footing that the whites. Perhaps because they pay a premium to avoid neighborhoods where rednecks tell them, "welcome but be forewarned I'll expect you to keep your house and yard maintained and the noise down and I'm not going to pay for any special privileges for Black people."

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Price reduced to $2.5 million.

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I like the exterior, and all the bedrooms, but the kitchen and bathooms? Nope. I have that exact bathroom white marble and let me tell you, you can see every single hair that drops from my head and from other parts of mine and DH's bodies!
Of course, people buying this one can afford a housekeeper to stay on top of such things. White kitchen is a huge no for me, it looks like a sterile hospital.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s stripped of all personality and the street has no sidewalks. Yuk.

The streets having no sidewalks is exactly part of the charm. These are wide streets and pedestrian friendly.

Streets without sidewalks are not pedestrian friendly.

a

I would hate to live in a neighborhood without sidewalks. I don’t want to walk in the street. I think the whole point was to discourage walking in the first place, so you wouldn’t have riffraff walking about.

Idk, this kind of neighborhood is not for me. It’s pretty but nothing about it has changed except explicitly barring people based on race. It’s still intentionally homogeneous and very restrictive. I don’t deny that feels “easy” and “nice” but I’m not sure it really is.

I thought that the lack of sidewalks in Bethesda was just Montgomery County being cheap, back when the neighborhoods were developed. Trust me that people that live in Bethesda now definitely do complain about the lack of sidewalks. Many of us bought houses here without noticing that there were no sidewalks in the neighborhood. (Another example of cheapness when the area was developed -- above-ground power lines all throughout Bethesda.)

It wasn’t cheapness at all, it was part of the marketing of a “country” environment. Private, everyone has a car, and random people don’t just walk by your house.

OK. I'll take your word for it that the people who developed Bethesda thought having no sidewalks would mean no random people walking past your house. However, it does not make sense to me because people can always walk in the street. This is what everyone does in Bethesda -- walks in the street because there are no sidewalks in most of Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Price reduced to $2.5 million.

The agent/flippers listened. The power of DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

People in Bethesda tend to be highly educated, and choose to live there for a reason (to live among other highly educated people). They would likely be welcoming to any new neighbor, so long as the new neighbor makes an effort to take care of their house and doesn't create a lot of noise or problems.

Stop digging -- you're embarrassing yourself. Telling Blacks "we'd welcome you in our neighborhood as long as you take care of your house and don't create noise or problems" isn't as welcoming as you think. If you lived in a neighborhood with Black residents maybe they could explain to you.

According to 2020 census data, the Black population share in Potomac (6.2%) and Chevy Chase (5.9%) is almost 50% higher than that of Bethesda (4.2%). At some point the residents of Bethesda might stop congratulating themselves on their highly educated attitudes and wonder why that is.

No matter where you live, this is a basic expectation - take care of the exterior of the house and don't create problems. We feel obliged to do this, regardless of our race.

In our neighborhood, because of how the history has played out, the houses with poor exterior maintenance tend to be the homes of older black homeowners who can no longer keep up with it and can’t afford to outsource. So it can be a sticky issue that, like everything else, gets tied up in our ongoing racial history.

Yes, and when my elderly white parents could no longer keep up their house they sold it and moved into a place they could afford. Skin color has nothing to do with this, my parents were/are working lc and have been all their lives. They scrimped and saved for every repair, every single item they own. Are you saying I should pay for black elderly residents to improve their homes? No one offered to help my parents with the roof they could not afford, or the painting that badly needed to be done. And I surely couldn't afford to improve their home since I have a family and home to support. But hey, wtf, they're not POC so who gives two f s?

You are clearly a crazy person with a paper tiger fetish.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I just spent an enjoyable half hour down the rabbit hole researching the house’s former owner. Would be very curious to know who is behind the “13 Enterprises LLC” that apparently is the current owner of the home. I have a question for anyone knowledgeable about the foreclosure process: are there circumstances under which you can get your home back after a bank has foreclosed if you come up with enough cash?

Yes, I believe you can go to the foreclosure auction at the courthouse with cash and accomplish this. Interested to hear from others, too.

The LLC's address is on the SDAT record page.

I saw that and looked up the incorporation documents (which include a different address for the company, in Bel Air), but they don’t list any actual people involved with the LLC.

There is a Bethesda address as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s stripped of all personality and the street has no sidewalks. Yuk.

The streets having no sidewalks is exactly part of the charm. These are wide streets and pedestrian friendly.

Streets without sidewalks are not pedestrian friendly.

a

I would hate to live in a neighborhood without sidewalks. I don’t want to walk in the street. I think the whole point was to discourage walking in the first place, so you wouldn’t have riffraff walking about.

Idk, this kind of neighborhood is not for me. It’s pretty but nothing about it has changed except explicitly barring people based on race. It’s still intentionally homogeneous and very restrictive. I don’t deny that feels “easy” and “nice” but I’m not sure it really is.

I thought that the lack of sidewalks in Bethesda was just Montgomery County being cheap, back when the neighborhoods were developed. Trust me that people that live in Bethesda now definitely do complain about the lack of sidewalks. Many of us bought houses here without noticing that there were no sidewalks in the neighborhood. (Another example of cheapness when the area was developed -- above-ground power lines all throughout Bethesda.)

It wasn’t cheapness at all, it was part of the marketing of a “country” environment. Private, everyone has a car, and random people don’t just walk by your house.

OK. I'll take your word for it that the people who developed Bethesda thought having no sidewalks would mean no random people walking past your house. However, it does not make sense to me because people can always walk in the street. This is what everyone does in Bethesda -- walks in the street because there are no sidewalks in most of Bethesda.

Yeah but they’re far away down your long driveway and away from your house. I’m not saying it even makes sense, this is just the history. Today builders put in sidewalks and walking paths to appeal to people who want to walk strollers and dogs and stuff. It’s marketing. Like everything else, it often has a racial dimension.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Price reduced to $2.5 million.

The agent/flippers listened. The power of DCUM.

Well, it was sold for 1.5M in 2020....I mean come on, they did not invest much at all.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and when my elderly white parents could no longer keep up their house they sold it and moved into a place they could afford. Skin color has nothing to do with this, my parents were/are working lc and have been all their lives. They scrimped and saved for every repair, every single item they own. Are you saying I should pay for black elderly residents to improve their homes? No one offered to help my parents with the roof they could not afford, or the painting that badly needed to be done. And I surely couldn't afford to improve their home since I have a family and home to support. But hey, wtf, they're not POC so who gives two f s?

You're fragile, bitter, and keep projecting -- with no basis in fact -- that commenters here are asking you to pay for special benefits for people of color.

The earlier point about elderly Black people in PP's neighborhood not being able to afford to maintain their house is interesting but a red herring here. Any qualified Black purchasers of this house in Apartheid Acres or whatever the name of this magical neighborhood is won't face that constraint. Indeed, it seems many of the Black families in my (marginally more integrated) MontCo neighborhood are on firmer financial footing that the whites. Perhaps because they pay a premium to avoid neighborhoods where rednecks tell them, "welcome but be forewarned I'll expect you to keep your house and yard maintained and the noise down and I'm not going to pay for any special privileges for Black people."

It seems like you are seeing hate around every corner. Not everyone is as bad as you think. There are good people out in the world.

[Anonymous]

i don't like it either. and for $2.5 mil, you think they'd throw in a shower door.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7835-Hampden-Ln-Bethesda-MD-20814/37171216_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

If anyone has wandered down Hampden Lane in Greenwich Forrest you know how special this street is. Every house is unique, charming, surrounded by the largest trees in probably a mile radius, and I always feel like I am walking through a fairytale land or at least in Europe. There is no new build on site because of the historic designation. I have always wondered what the houses looked like on the inside. So rarely do these properties come on the market so it was a delight to see this one. It’s much over my budget but wanted to share as so rarely do houses on this street come to market.I am sure that it isn’t to the taste of many with this much to spend but it’s more fun to share houses like this than a more common new build.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/in-bethesda-a-small-enclave-holds-back-the-mcmansions/2020/04/15/96d7e608-7a96-11ea-b6ff-597f170df8f8_story.html

It isn't magical to me for that price! I want unicorns! Plus, still in Bethesda so that is a no go