If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year

[Anonymous]

I have an AAP student with math as her strongest area and a student in special education with math as her absolute weakest area. I *hate* the idea of my child with a math learning disability sitting in a classroom with advanced math students. She already struggles and has low academic self esteem. If she's in a room with advanced students who will steamroll the class discussions because they already know what they're being taught and pick it up quicker, she will complete disappear into the woodwork. She's terrified of being perceived as "dumb" and this will just make it worse. I understand there are concerns with the advanced students losing their advanced curriculum which is significant. But I feel like these discussions (at the county level, not here) never consider how the special education students will struggle in this setup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an AAP student with math as her strongest area and a student in special education with math as her absolute weakest area. I *hate* the idea of my child with a math learning disability sitting in a classroom with advanced math students. She already struggles and has low academic self esteem. If she's in a room with advanced students who will steamroll the class discussions because they already know what they're being taught and pick it up quicker, she will complete disappear into the woodwork. She's terrified of being perceived as "dumb" and this will just make it worse. I understand there are concerns with the advanced students losing their advanced curriculum which is significant. But I feel like these discussions (at the county level, not here) never consider how the special education students will struggle in this setup.

You make an important point. Heterogenous classes target the average student; neither students with math disabilities nor advanced learners are served well by them.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

[Anonymous]

The FCPS website description implies that kids are doing grade-level work in E3 for Grades 3-4.

"raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions"
https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416

FCPS seems to be linking rigor to "depth" within a grade's content rather than the provision of accelerated content. This was a theme often heard with VMPI where they argued that rigor is enhanced and deeper understanding developed as kids work in groups, discussing math verbally and engaging in discovery learning. PP with kids in E3, do you hear about "deeper" math learning going on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

[Anonymous]

Is there an official list of the schools doing the pilot or is this something going on under the radar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is E3?

Here is FCPS's description on their math page; it's a math curriculum designed to broaden access to advanced math. FCPS expanded the program from 10 schools last year to 20 schools this year. It appears to be linked to their goal to increase the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 by 8th grade. (FCPS Goal 2).

https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416

"Goal 1: By the end of SY 2022-23 Virginia Standards of Learning (SOL) pass rates will increase by 11% points for all students and by 21% points for English Learners.
Goal 2: By the end of SY 2022-23 participation of underrepresented groups in Algebra 1 by 8th grade will increase by 4% points

Pilot revised curriculum guides for grades 3 and 4 that include more detailed teacher notes on daily lessons including scaffolds, interventions, and extensions.

Partner with College Success Programs to launch the Algebra Access Network Improvement Community, a network of five schools that will increase the diverse representation of students who participate and are proficient in Algebra 1 by the end of eighth grade.

Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."

It’s offering extensions to more kids.

Why is that so threatening to people that they are compelled to lie about it?

This does not affect AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

Wrong.

It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.

Stop spreading lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

Wrong.

It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.

Stop spreading lies.

It's literally right there on the website

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is E3?

Here is FCPS's description on their math page; it's a math curriculum designed to broaden access to advanced math. FCPS expanded the program from 10 schools last year to 20 schools this year. It appears to be linked to their goal to increase the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 by 8th grade. (FCPS Goal 2).

https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416

"Goal 1: By the end of SY 2022-23 Virginia Standards of Learning (SOL) pass rates will increase by 11% points for all students and by 21% points for English Learners.
Goal 2: By the end of SY 2022-23 participation of underrepresented groups in Algebra 1 by 8th grade will increase by 4% points

Pilot revised curriculum guides for grades 3 and 4 that include more detailed teacher notes on daily lessons including scaffolds, interventions, and extensions.

Partner with College Success Programs to launch the Algebra Access Network Improvement Community, a network of five schools that will increase the diverse representation of students who participate and are proficient in Algebra 1 by the end of eighth grade.

Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."

It’s offering extensions to more kids.

Why is that so threatening to people that they are compelled to lie about it?

This does not affect AAP.

You can debte e3 here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/180/1039315.page

[Anonymous]

DS was in LLIV AAP, having opted not to attend the center. Half the class was Level III, and even the difference between those kids and ones in Advanced Math was stark.

DS did not know who was Level III obviously, but would come home frustrated and complain about partner assignments in which Larlo hid in the bathroom instead of working with him to do a project, and nice kids looking him dead in the face and saying "I can't help you because I don't understand how to do this."

Who is this helping?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

Wrong.

It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.

Stop spreading lies.

It's literally right there on the website

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

Wrong.

It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.

Stop spreading lies.

It's literally right there on the website

That's something else. You found the wrong acronym

Here's E3: https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416

"Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

Wrong.

It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.

Stop spreading lies.

It's literally right there on the website

That's something else. You found the wrong acronym

Here's E3: https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416

"Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."

I think it's the same program: https://e3alliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CTX_About_Student_Guide_Jan2023.pdf
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1039315.page#24409844

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what is "E3 math"?

FCPS is running a pilot at 20 elementary schools (in 3rd and 4th grades) where they are putting advanced math kids and regular math kids in the same classroom, using a math curriculum called E3 -- Education Equals Economics. https://e3alliance.org/

Wrong.

It’s called “Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics”.

Stop spreading lies.

It's literally right there on the website

That's something else. You found the wrong acronym

Here's E3: https://www.fcps.edu/node/44416

"Partner with the Advanced Academic Office expand the E3 Network from 10 to 20 schools. Improve intensity of support for network schools as they implement Engaging, Enhanced, and Extended Mathematics or E3. The purpose of E3 is to broaden the access for third and fourth graders to a more rigorous curriculum in elementary mathematics by raising the rigor for all students through an enhanced program of studies that layers more opportunities for depth and complexity through flexible delivery of Advanced Academic extensions."

I think it's the same program: https://e3alliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CTX_About_Student_Guide_Jan2023.pdf
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1039315.page#24409844

I don't know much about the E3 program and maybe it's related somehow to the Texas based E3 Alliance but I think the name was chosen to go along with M3. That's my guess.