If your school is currently piloting or offering E3 Math next year

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Maybe they are using the pilot to inform their decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they are using the pilot to inform their decisions.

Identifying the schools would not interfere with that. If FCPS makes the decision to implement E3 county-wide based on the pilot, there should be community confidence in the data which backs up that decision. Making the process transparent would be helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone link the list of E3 schools?

FCPS has not released a list of the 20 (+?) E3 schools . . .

Why is FCPS keeping the full list a secret?

Good question.

Probably because public schools are currently targets for RWNJs. They will distort the truth into some kind of dystopian hellscape.

If RWNJ's had truth-warping powers, they would have used them to change the 2020 elections.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they are using the pilot to inform their decisions.

Identifying the schools would not interfere with that. If FCPS makes the decision to implement E3 county-wide based on the pilot, there should be community confidence in the data which backs up that decision. Making the process transparent would be helpful.

If they are still piloting then they are still likely gathering the data to make the decision in the future. Agree they should be transparent and share results of the pilot before rolling out.

Parents and political groups not being dicks would also be helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone link the list of E3 schools?

FCPS has not released a list of the 20 (+?) E3 schools . . .

Why is FCPS keeping the full list a secret?

Good question.

Probably because public schools are currently targets for RWNJs. They will distort the truth into some kind of dystopian hellscape.

If RWNJ's had truth-warping powers, they would have used them to change the 2020 elections.

They distorted the truth for ~30% of Americans.
https://theconversation.com/why-do-millions-of-americans-believe-the-2020-presidential-election-was-stolen-from-donald-trump-224016

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Anonymous wrote:What is E3 math?

I'm not all that sure either. It would be great if they could get more kids into advanced math, but most of these programs end up pushing top-down equity since that's the only proven way to close the gap.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone link the list of E3 schools?

FCPS has not released a list of the 20 (+?) E3 schools . . .

Why is FCPS keeping the full list a secret?

Good question.

Probably because public schools are currently targets for RWNJs. They will distort the truth into some kind of dystopian hellscape.

Not disclosing the E3 schools preempts independent evaluation of E3 outcomes.

In the wake of so many other debacles and failures such as Lucy Calkins, whole-language, common-core math, etc., we must demand full transparency from Gatehouse.

Sorry, not sorry. As a parent, I am no longer satisfied with Gatehouse and DOE’s attempts to placate us with “just trust us.”

I know. They keep experimenting on kids causing untold damage. The truth is most of this stuff hasn't changed in centuries and there are proven ways to educate.

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Anonymous wrote:https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

E3 Alliance - and FCPS - are trying to get MORE kids in accelerated math.

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Anonymous wrote:https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

E3 Alliance - and FCPS - are trying to get MORE kids in accelerated math.

Compared to the baseline in Texas. Read it again, they are trying to have kids take math for four years in high school. Here E3 is reducing opportunities for kids who normally would accelerate more.
They might be taking algebra in 6th or 7th grade, but because of E3 they will be taking in 8th grade. In Texas algebra in 8th grade with E3 is compared to the typical taking algebra in 9th grade.
Though of course Texas would also have lots of kids who are taking math earlier.

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Anonymous wrote:https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

E3 Alliance - and FCPS - are trying to get MORE kids in accelerated math.

Compared to the baseline in Texas. Read it again, they are trying to have kids take math for four years in high school. Here E3 is reducing opportunities for kids who normally would accelerate more.
They might be taking algebra in 6th or 7th grade, but because of E3 they will be taking in 8th grade. In Texas algebra in 8th grade with E3 is compared to the typical taking algebra in 9th grade.
Though of course Texas would also have lots of kids who are taking math earlier.

Where does it say they can only take it in 8th? In TX or VA?

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Anonymous wrote:https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

E3 Alliance - and FCPS - are trying to get MORE kids in accelerated math.

Compared to the baseline in Texas. Read it again, they are trying to have kids take math for four years in high school. Here E3 is reducing opportunities for kids who normally would accelerate more.
They might be taking algebra in 6th or 7th grade, but because of E3 they will be taking in 8th grade. In Texas algebra in 8th grade with E3 is compared to the typical taking algebra in 9th grade.
Though of course Texas would also have lots of kids who are taking math earlier.

Where does it say they can only take it in 8th? In TX or VA?

E3’s goal is homogeneous classes all taking Algebra in 8th.

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Anonymous wrote:https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

E3 Alliance - and FCPS - are trying to get MORE kids in accelerated math.

Compared to the baseline in Texas. Read it again, they are trying to have kids take math for four years in high school. Here E3 is reducing opportunities for kids who normally would accelerate more.
They might be taking algebra in 6th or 7th grade, but because of E3 they will be taking in 8th grade. In Texas algebra in 8th grade with E3 is compared to the typical taking algebra in 9th grade.
Though of course Texas would also have lots of kids who are taking math earlier.

Where does it say they can only take it in 8th? In TX or VA?

E3’s goal is homogeneous classes all taking Algebra in 8th.

That is very clearly false.

[Anonymous]

E3 Alliance is trying to get MORE kids into advanced math in middle school.


https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:E3 Alliance is trying to get MORE kids into advanced math in middle school.


https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

The starting in 6th grade part scares some people, as FCPS starts accelerated math in 3rd grade.

My math-oriented kid would have been bored to tears in a homogeneous math class that went at VDOE's gen ed math pace from 3rd through 5th.

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Anonymous wrote:E3 Alliance is trying to get MORE kids into advanced math in middle school.


https://e3alliance.org/2022/08/29/call-for-advanced-math-policy-during-texas-88th-legislature/
"E3 Alliance research indicates that taking more advanced math courses in high school highly correlates with students enrolling in a higher education institution, persisting in their studies, and ultimately completing a postsecondary credential"

"we believe the time is now to amplify all students across the state, scaling these tested and refined practices into state policy during the upcoming Texas 88th Legislative Session."

"Our state-level policy priorities include:
*Opt-Out Policy for high-performing students enrolling in accelerated math starting in 6th grade.
*Math All Four Years for high school students."

The starting in 6th grade part scares some people, as FCPS starts accelerated math in 3rd grade.

My math-oriented kid would have been bored to tears in a homogeneous math class that went at VDOE's gen ed math pace from 3rd through 5th.

Same with my child.

Luckily we were NOT at an E3 pilot school in FCPS, and he was allowed to accelerate, now taking geometry in 8th and headed to TJ next year.

The answer you will eventually get when you question acceleration in E3, and all the other “equity math” schemes is:

- pull-outs in otherwise homogeneous classes.

However, the pull-out method does not work.

What these equity schemes will accomplish, however, is to effective thwart, dissuade, and discourage most acceleration for advanced students. That effect suits the equity warriors just fine because it will:

- close the racial achievement gap from the top down.

However, it will also make all the students equally average locally, and increasingly below-average nationally and internationally.