So are some daycares and preschools planning on masking forever then?

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Anonymous wrote:Distraught? Near tears? How can you people be serious?

NP but it’s been HARD to be a parent to ages 2-5 for a long time, and we feel forgotten.

Absolutely no one understands this unless they are one of us. No one. We ARE forgotten, and when we say we are upset or distraught or whatever, we're told it's just a cold for our kids, or to change our situations at the drop of the hat, or some other inane condescending advice.

The writing is on the wall that the vaccine is not forthcoming for this age group any time soon. It can't be both ways. It can't be COVID isn't a big deal for this age group and there is no vaccine *and* all the onerous quarantine requirements.

it's the quarantine requirements that are driving parents to their breaking points. Everyone getting COVID is baked in and I gave up a long time ago my kid would be vaccinated any time soon.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

You probably hear this a lot, but in case you are wondering, you are awful. Condescending, judgmental, unkind. Go away to your utopia you have all figured out.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

You probably hear this a lot, but in case you are wondering, you are awful. Condescending, judgmental, unkind. Go away to your utopia you have all figured out.

I’m not going to get into the name calling but I’m very inclined to move for my preschooler. However I have a SN older child who is doing very well at their public school thanks to a lot of work and a hard won IEP. I’m terrified to move and lose out on this progress for my older child. I am allowed to want what is best for both my kids and blithely telling people they are lazy for not moving is just not helpful.

[Anonymous]

I do think regulations will change.

I also think the main reason they are slow to change is anxious parents still prefer mask mandates, mostly due to non-science reasons. I don't prefer it, but i can understand it.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

You probably hear this a lot, but in case you are wondering, you are awful. Condescending, judgmental, unkind. Go away to your utopia you have all figured out.

I’m not going to get into the name calling but I’m very inclined to move for my preschooler. However I have a SN older child who is doing very well at their public school thanks to a lot of work and a hard won IEP. I’m terrified to move and lose out on this progress for my older child. I am allowed to want what is best for both my kids and blithely telling people they are lazy for not moving is just not helpful.

DP you are the one being rude and attacking people for having very valid concerns. Rot in hell.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

Where did you move to? Is it 100% aligned with your views? It would probably take months for us to actually find new employment (in two different fields), sell the house, secure housing at the destination, find childcare openings in the new place, and pack, but maybe if we start now we could make it happen by the summer.

[Anonymous]

My kid's daycare had a teacher who died of COVID (she didn't catch it at the daycare), so I think they're being understandably cautious and I'm okay with that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

I mean if you're so happy with your decision, why are you here? It's almost like you're invested in keeping this policy in place to justify your decision to move over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think regulations will change.

I also think the main reason they are slow to change is anxious parents still prefer mask mandates, mostly due to non-science reasons. I don't prefer it, but i can understand it.

Put the onus on those parents, then. Mask-optional doesn't mean mask-forbidden, and if it's a KF94 or KN95, it protects the wearer from unmasked people around them. Plenty of kids at my DD's mask optional daycare wear masks voluntarily. I think it's dumb but to each their own.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

You probably hear this a lot, but in case you are wondering, you are awful. Condescending, judgmental, unkind. Go away to your utopia you have all figured out.

I’m not going to get into the name calling but I’m very inclined to move for my preschooler. However I have a SN older child who is doing very well at their public school thanks to a lot of work and a hard won IEP. I’m terrified to move and lose out on this progress for my older child. I am allowed to want what is best for both my kids and blithely telling people they are lazy for not moving is just not helpful.

DP you are the one being rude and attacking people for having very valid concerns. Rot in hell.

I’m the PP you are directly replying to and I should have clarified that I commented once much earlier in the thread and am not either of the PP directly before my last post. I don’t engage in name calling on line or in person.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!

DP but I took a gigantic pay cut to move because of masking toddlers. Choices sometimes cost, yes. My children are worth it.

To PP’s point, there *are* options, just not the *ideal* options for you. We’re two years into the pandemic, DC and MOCO have shown their colors and at this point you’re the idiot if you think it’s going to change.

Unless there are multiple posters here, I'm not really following your story- are you the same one that said you figured it out "Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day." But you moved to get away from masks? Are teachers in your new area less at risk or something?

And no, not everyone has the luxury to change jobs and move for what should have been a temporary measure. I'd rather stay and work to change it.

Nope, first time posting here. Trust me, it wasn’t a “luxury”, it’s been hard and the trade-offs are huge, but I still made the right decision. It sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too, princess.

But sure, knock your socks off trying to change two years worth of policies and mindsets that are 180 degrees different than yours. In 2023 you’ll be posting the same thread, incredulous that things haven’t changed.

You probably hear this a lot, but in case you are wondering, you are awful. Condescending, judgmental, unkind. Go away to your utopia you have all figured out.

I’m not going to get into the name calling but I’m very inclined to move for my preschooler. However I have a SN older child who is doing very well at their public school thanks to a lot of work and a hard won IEP. I’m terrified to move and lose out on this progress for my older child. I am allowed to want what is best for both my kids and blithely telling people they are lazy for not moving is just not helpful.

Yeah I'm glad it worked out for the PP but surely they must realize that most people need to factor in more than masking toddlers when making that type of decision to uproot and move, right?

FWIW, this has dragged on way longer that it needs to but I think the dominos ARE starting to fall. I never would have thought MCPS would go mask-optional this year but we are on the cusp of that. Thanks to the PP who posted the emails for MDSE contacts. I think the pro-masking parents have been the loudest and we need to counter that.

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Our daycare is supposedly mask optional as of 3/1 but DD's teacher is forcing her to wear one. It would have been nice if the center and the teachers were putting out a consistent message esp. since we spent time telling DD that she could do what she felt most comfortable with and then it's a total 180 from the teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think regulations will change.

I also think the main reason they are slow to change is anxious parents still prefer mask mandates, mostly due to non-science reasons. I don't prefer it, but i can understand it.

And this is the exact reason programs should be following the current standards set by the CDC and not people's feelings. Because then it becomes a question of which people's feelings drive policy. Do the loudest people win, do the most passionate people win, do the ones who cry win? We need real benchmarks for when to do things and when not to do things, not emotions.

--A parent who is in a program that is still masking outdoors because some parents and teachers just feel like it's safer that way

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Anonymous wrote:Our daycare is supposedly mask optional as of 3/1 but DD's teacher is forcing her to wear one. It would have been nice if the center and the teachers were putting out a consistent message esp. since we spent time telling DD that she could do what she felt most comfortable with and then it's a total 180 from the teacher.

You need to push back on that. Call the director.