So are some daycares and preschools planning on masking forever then?

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Anonymous wrote:Distraught? Near tears? How can you people be serious?

NP but it’s been HARD to be a parent to ages 2-5 for a long time, and we feel forgotten.

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Our Maryland preschool says they are waiting on updated guidance from MDSE or whatever the organization is that oversees preschools. They haven’t updated anything regarding masking.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know but I am on the verge of tears that my toddler will be masking indefinitely. In Maryland our provider is following MSDE guidance for universal masking in child care so I don't really blame them. I don't understand how the state ends the mask mandate in schools but changes nothing for toddlers. Governor Hogan is silent on this issue. MoCo officials continue to recommend providers have everyone mask. Do these people really think these poorly worn cloth masks that they take off 5-6 times per day are doing anything? I'm so distraught and confused.

+1. You've expressed my thoughts exactly. I had so much hope last week, and am thrilled for my kindergartener that MCPS will probably become mask optional next week, but I'm dismayed that nothing is changing for childcares. Who at the state can we press on this issue? Obviously writing an email to Hogan directly will be like spitting into the abyss. But there's got to be someone at MSDE we can press on this, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Distraught? Near tears? How can you people be serious?

NP but it’s been HARD to be a parent to ages 2-5 for a long time, and we feel forgotten.

Agreed. Especially because it seems like the county especially has been talking out both sides of their mouth about this- reluctance to update quarantine guidelines because kids under 5 can't mask properly, but still recommending they wear them. It's like none of these people have little kids themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the basis for this question? Was there a statement released by county or state?

That's the problem. Silence after CDC guidelines have changed.

It was just today. One day. It’s not like it’s been, forever.

It's been two full business days and plenty has happened for K-12. Nothing for 2-5 year olds.

It has always been this. General guidelines first, then they flow something down for childcare, then it comes down through state and county and city public health / licensing / bureaucracy.

Two business days? Give them a bit more time. Updated regs haven't even come down. (BTW, the majority of parents in many areas are still supportive of these mask mandates. I'm not, I don't think that should drive policy, but it is a data point to see why daycares aren't seeking to be at the forefront of a policiy change that will likely be controversial)

Get real- there's nothing coming. They need a carrot to entice parents to vaccinate their kids if/when EUA is ever granted for this age group. There is no justifiable public health goal associated with masking toddlers/preschoolers at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Distraught? Near tears? How can you people be serious?

NP but it’s been HARD to be a parent to ages 2-5 for a long time, and we feel forgotten.

Agreed. Especially because it seems like the county especially has been talking out both sides of their mouth about this- reluctance to update quarantine guidelines because kids under 5 can't mask properly, but still recommending they wear them. It's like none of these people have little kids themselves.

I wish someone with decision making power would just explain whether they genuinely believe that masking young children (1) prevents the transmission of COVID and/or (2) is so unlikely to result in developmental harms that this risk is not even worth considering. I am absolutely livid and do not intend to vote for anyone at the local level that does not address these questions.

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Anonymous wrote:Distraught? Near tears? How can you people be serious?

NP but it’s been HARD to be a parent to ages 2-5 for a long time, and we feel forgotten.

Agreed. Especially because it seems like the county especially has been talking out both sides of their mouth about this- reluctance to update quarantine guidelines because kids under 5 can't mask properly, but still recommending they wear them. It's like none of these people have little kids themselves.

I wish someone with decision making power would just explain whether they genuinely believe that masking young children (1) prevents the transmission of COVID and/or (2) is so unlikely to result in developmental harms that this risk is not even worth considering. I am absolutely livid and do not intend to vote for anyone at the local level that does not address these questions.

Irs not just kids, but 90 percent of adults in Montgomery county still wear masks inside even after it was lifted. I don’t but it seems everyone else does.

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Anonymous wrote:Distraught? Near tears? How can you people be serious?

NP but it’s been HARD to be a parent to ages 2-5 for a long time, and we feel forgotten.

Agreed. Especially because it seems like the county especially has been talking out both sides of their mouth about this- reluctance to update quarantine guidelines because kids under 5 can't mask properly, but still recommending they wear them. It's like none of these people have little kids themselves.

I wish someone with decision making power would just explain whether they genuinely believe that masking young children (1) prevents the transmission of COVID and/or (2) is so unlikely to result in developmental harms that this risk is not even worth considering. I am absolutely livid and do not intend to vote for anyone at the local level that does not address these questions.

Irs not just kids, but 90 percent of adults in Montgomery county still wear masks inside even after it was lifted. I don’t but it seems everyone else does.

So what? It's their choice. And while there's an argument to be made that masking impacts adults' mental health, I hope (perhaps foolishly) that folks can understand that the likely risks for young children, who are in key stages of speech and social development, are much, much higher.

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If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

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OP get a grip. There are people dying!!!!!!.... not.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

The problem will be solved when the policy is changed. If this topic doesn’t interest you there are plenty of other threads to hang out in.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

Ah so you do believe in this senseless policy then. You've really bought the line that a bunch of toddlers wearing cloth masks (often incorrectly) and taking them on and off with help of the teacher multiple times per day is keeping these teachers "safe."

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Anonymous wrote:If this was that serious to you, you'd find an alternate childcare arrangement. Nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home daycare provider with looser restrictions. Stop complaining and solve the problem.

This comment is nonsensical. First of all, surely anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that not everyone has a ton of childcare options. Like if your options for childcare really are "nanny, nanny share, family help, in-home provider with looser restrictions, daycare," congratulations! You are incredibly privileged and well-resourced and life must be a lot easier for you than it is for the rest of us. Most of us have really limited childcare options. It's more like "daycare near my house or daycare near my work." Or "daycare I like and that we can barely afford, or daycare I feel not great about but that is in budget." That kind of thing.

But second, if you are fine with kids going to in-home daycares with looser restrictions, you are obviously not personally invested in masking young children as a Covid mitigation measure. A lot of people justify these masking requirements by arguing that kids are disease vectors and they have to mask to keep everyone else safe, since kids themselves don't seem to be particularly vulnerable to Covid. If you don't think this, you should support removing mask mandates for daycares and preschools, since it's apparently not a useful mitigation measure and it places a major burden on very young kids and their families.

So which is it? Are you just a tone deaf rich person or a hypocrite, or both?

Yes I am aware of the challenge of childcare and guess what - I figured it out! Without expecting childcare providers to put their health at risk or expecting other kids to sit around exposed to my child. maskless all day.

As to your second point, obviously parents that are hysterical on this point are not taking covid precautions at all so I really don't care what they do with their kids. Clearly their families aren't taking precautions so have at it.

You "figured it out" or you paid for the problem to go away? Does your child attend a daycare with a strict masking policy or not. Until you answer this question, everything else you says is suspect.

If your child doesn't mask all day, stfu as you don't get to tell others to deal with something you don't deal with.

Also, if your child doesn't mask all day, do you not care about the health and well being of the childcare workers being exposed to your child? Quelle horreur!