s/o finding a half sibling placed in adoption

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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


You didn’t answer my question. If you found out tomorrow you have NO genetic relationship to anyone you have known your entire life, would you still claim DNA doesn’t matter? What would YOU do? Not your adopted friends. You, tomorrow, no DNA relationships because they all went poof.
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


You didn’t answer my question. If you found out tomorrow you have NO genetic relationship to anyone you have known your entire life, would you still claim DNA doesn’t matter? What would YOU do? Not your adopted friends. You, tomorrow, no DNA relationships because they all went poof.

First of all, I am not the person you asked a question of. I am a person who has, in fact, lived my entire life without knowing any genetic relatives until I was in my 20s- that's when I had my kids. I grew up in an ethnicity that wasn't mine, a culture that was lent to me, physicalities that weren't mine, and I watched my family interact with their family- parents, siblings, cousins and watched how they smiled the same, had the same forehead ridge, shared experiences and stories of their immigrant family.

Everyone who met us said things like "Well where did YOU come from? The milk man?" * cue laughter of all the adults, with a quick save like "Oh you're so pretty"
My friends , when we were kids, always asked if I wondered who my real parents are. I used to peruse magazines to see what people looked like from other countries. I decided I was French. I'm not, but it sounded cool. I could go on and on. So, yes, I had a lifetime of knowing what I wasn't. I wanted to know who I was. I wasn't looking for a family. I had a family. I was looking for my story, and I deserved that. My kids deserve that, and all future generations.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


Very, very well said. An adoptive parent may not like the actions or behavior of a relinquishing parent. In fact a first mother or father may be a loathsome, abusive person. But those are not the only kinship bonds that matter. An child lost yo this family through adoption may come to treasure that his or her story does not begin with that birth parent but rather begins with grandparents and great grandparents who have stories and whose narratives may provide inspiration and connection. Relationships with generic siblings, cousins, nieces, nephews may all be significant and meaningful. You can dissolve legal bonds to a family but they are still family, and those connections can be important and meaningful.
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?


you don't seem to understand ... most of this thread is discussing the BABY SCOOP AREA as the OP is discussing finding a child that was forced into adoption in the 60s ... context is important.

Also, no post said to "encourage your child to see out a birthfather" it's literally a post about the half sibling looking for the adoptee! not encouraging the adoptee to search for anyone
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


I can’t help wondering about all these absolute pronouncements the same person keeps making, when others are posting their experiences that their relationships with their genetic relatives ARE significant. I can’t help but think it is an adoptive parent who wants to minimize the significance of genetic connection.

I grew up with a sibling who I can barely stand, and I have two genetic half-sisters, one who found is when I was in my 20’s and one who I found in my 40’s. I am much closer to both of them than I am to the sibling with whom I share 50% DNA and shared childhood memories. I “click” with one sister in an uncanny way. I have a tremendous amount of things in common with my other sister. Our physical resemblance and the resemblance of our children to each other or our mother is meaningful. They are my FAMILY. They were before I ever knew them.

Just because you don’t grow up with people doesn’t mean they are not your family. My granny lived on another continent and I didn’t have a relationship with her ‘till I turned 19, but she was my family. Just because I didn’t know my sister yet then doesn’t mean she is any less my family.

Your mileage may vary. But for me, DNA connections are significant and important.

Wishing OP luck finding her sibling!


Ahhh the heated poster as provided more context. They have a child with an estranged parent (abusive drug addict) so they are projecting their fears of their child being reunited with this birth parent on the OPs thread.
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op here with an update ... but not about myself, but my best friend (who is adopted) .... they were just contacted by a sister on Ancestry!!!! this gives me hope I may find my sister

I bought my own Ancestry kit this morning (to supplement 23andMe and GEDMatch), fingers crossed it gives me a positive connection as well
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NP and finding it interesting how the people in favor of locating siblings who were given for adoption seem to feel at least mostly sure that the newly found sibling will want the contact and maybe a relationship. What if you locate this person only to be rejected? Will you pursue them, or wait but still hope they "come around?" Asking seriously. I figure that if they're in a genetic database they might also be seeking relatives, and might therefore be assumed to be open to contact and possibly a relationship. But that's not a given, even if they've used Ancestry or 23 and Me. Or they could regret doing the genetic testing and might back off once the reality of "found" siblings comes along. What if it blows up their world to have someone contact them and say they're a sibling? How do you, as the person doing the "finding," think you'll react if you're treated coolly, or even told to back off? Asking seriously. Not everyone wants to be found or wants to know their story, as someone above calls it.
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


You aren't getting it. Its pretty sad.
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OP, last year I took an Ancestry DNA test and am still working to unravel my paternal findings. However, I’ve learned a lot over the past year. Here are some tips:

1) Absolutely take an Ancestry DNA test because that database is approximately 20 million people. If your mother and known sibling will also take tests, that is even better. Do not mark your results private. You need to make them public at least until you have completed your search. Also use your full name in your user ID so your sibling can find you, assuming that’s what you want.

2) Ancestry allows you to create a profile. Suggest you put up a nice picture of yourself with some basic information. Be sure to keep it light and positive.

2) Facebook has private groups like DNA Detectives that you can join for additional tips and search advice. YMMV

3) If you have your DNA on Ancestry, 23andMe, and GEDmatch, you should be fine. **Except** my biggest lead thus far came from MyHeritage, surprisingly enough. Frankly, if you are serious about your search I would put your DNA there and also on FamilyTreeDNA.

Your best chance for success is on Ancestry. Good luck!
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


You aren't getting it. Its pretty sad.


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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


You aren't getting it. Its pretty sad.


DP. I agree that that PP isn't getting that not everyone considers their story as going back to and beyond his or her birth parents. Not everyone cares about the "narrative" of their biological relatives. I say this as someone who does care about that for myself (not adopted), but I know adoptees who really do not feel or want the kind of connection that PP insists is essential. I understand and respect that it means a great deal to that PP but I think the PP doesn't grasp that someone might not feel the same way at all. At least, that doesn't come across in that last post above. It's not universally true that everyone wants or cares about that narrative. Some people either just don't feel that, or they feel their adoptive family's narrative is theirs too, and they don't see why birth parents and "people who came before [their] birth parents" are somehow part of their story in any way but as a DNA sequence. That probably sounds cold and unfeeling to those here who insist that people should want to know their biological relatives. But I am very close to one adoptee in particular and this is how he feels, and he's extremely affectionate and emotional as a person. He just doesn't feel a craving or need to know details other than what he already knows about why his parents put him up for adoption.
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


You aren't getting it. Its pretty sad.


DP. I agree that that PP isn't getting that not everyone considers their story as going back to and beyond his or her birth parents. Not everyone cares about the "narrative" of their biological relatives. I say this as someone who does care about that for myself (not adopted), but I know adoptees who really do not feel or want the kind of connection that PP insists is essential. I understand and respect that it means a great deal to that PP but I think the PP doesn't grasp that someone might not feel the same way at all. At least, that doesn't come across in that last post above. It's not universally true that everyone wants or cares about that narrative. Some people either just don't feel that, or they feel their adoptive family's narrative is theirs too, and they don't see why birth parents and "people who came before [their] birth parents" are somehow part of their story in any way but as a DNA sequence. That probably sounds cold and unfeeling to those here who insist that people should want to know their biological relatives. But I am very close to one adoptee in particular and this is how he feels, and he's extremely affectionate and emotional as a person. He just doesn't feel a craving or need to know details other than what he already knows about why his parents put him up for adoption.


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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


You aren't getting it. Its pretty sad.


DP. I agree that that PP isn't getting that not everyone considers their story as going back to and beyond his or her birth parents. Not everyone cares about the "narrative" of their biological relatives. I say this as someone who does care about that for myself (not adopted), but I know adoptees who really do not feel or want the kind of connection that PP insists is essential. I understand and respect that it means a great deal to that PP but I think the PP doesn't grasp that someone might not feel the same way at all. At least, that doesn't come across in that last post above. It's not universally true that everyone wants or cares about that narrative. Some people either just don't feel that, or they feel their adoptive family's narrative is theirs too, and they don't see why birth parents and "people who came before [their] birth parents" are somehow part of their story in any way but as a DNA sequence. That probably sounds cold and unfeeling to those here who insist that people should want to know their biological relatives. But I am very close to one adoptee in particular and this is how he feels, and he's extremely affectionate and emotional as a person. He just doesn't feel a craving or need to know details other than what he already knows about why his parents put him up for adoption.


I agree. My mother was not raised by her biological family. She has had no interest learning about or meeting her biological family. She has never wanted to connect to them or learn about her "birth narrative." She has her reasons which are not only no-one's business, but they should be respected.
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Again, it doesn't matter at all what you think, or any esoteric examples that may or may not be sock puppet (s)above ...come on....

Adoptees do absolutely deserve to know what their background is, who their parents are as well as the circumstances surrounding their birth and adoption, regardless if they actually do this search or not. And, no one can decide this for them, especially the birth or adoptive parents.
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Anonymous wrote:Are you unhappy? Unfulfilled? I really don’t get the draw to want to have relationship with every person you are related to. It’s ok to not know a half sibling, or care.

Focus on your own family.

I think most people think a sibling is family. Again, louder for those in the back- a SIBLING. As in- "another child your parent (s) had." Sibling. 50% of your DNA or 25% if it is a half sibling.

Not a second cousin once removed or some aunt from the "old country." A sibling.


A sibling is a sibling because you were raised together by the same parents. A “sibling” that shares 25% DNA that was raised by different people in a different location all their life if no more family to you than a random stranger


You feel very strongly about this. Was there a situation in your own life that has led you to feel this way?


No, I am content with my life and the people in it. I just don’t get the obsessive nature of people seeking out those they share DNA with. We are all related somewhere down the line. If I found out my dad had another kid at some point, and they lived in Jersey, I would just file it under interesting things and move on. I wouldn’t make it some mission to seek this person out and start up a relationship. Blood relation shouldn’t make a big difference. As evidence by the family forum here, plenty of people don’t like those related to them and chose not to keep up a relationship (or would like not to). Plenty of people have friends that are closer to them than some of their blood relatives. Sharing DNA has little to do with personal compatibility with a person.


Ok so let's flip it around. You find out tomorrow that YOU were adopted or switched at birth. You are not genetically related to a single person you know in your "very content life". Do you still think you would not look for ANY family to get answer? Why or why not? Next, please explain how your answers differ from the OP who is looking for a lost relation.


I have several friend who were adopted who choose not to look. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you feel you have to push your viewpoint onto others? Yours needs aren't someone else's needs.

Some birthparents are horrible people and its best to leave things alone.


NP, but it sounds like YOU are pushing your viewpoint on others - your view that its NBD so someone should act accordingly ... you are the one bothered by another's actions and are trying to change them.


You don't seem to understand that today adoptions can look different and some of us KNOW what the other side looks like and its not good. You think I should encourage my child to seek out a birthfather who is a criminal and drug addict (many arrests, violence with guns, drugs)..... and, just hand them over for visits and unrestricted contact. The same one who was abusive to their birth mom. One of the reasons why my child was placed?

The fact that you think you have some control, or any control, over your child's pursuits vis a vis his biological family is the most interesting point here. You don't. When he can, he will or will not seek these people out and it's easier than anyone thinks. Nothing you say, or think, or preach will change the fact that your child has an entire other genetic history and presence in this world beyond you. This is for your child to determine- not you. Secondly, it doesn't matter who his birth parents were or what their behavior was. They still represent your child's story from day one- and that includes people that came before your child's birth parents-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and afterward...siblings, cousins, etc. They come with genealogical geography, personalities, facial features and interests...they come with a narrative of how they came to be.

Your narrative, your history, your parents, your siblings, cousins- and your genes are not actually your child's. You are his legal parent, but you don't own his entire narrative.


You aren't getting it. Its pretty sad.


DP. I agree that that PP isn't getting that not everyone considers their story as going back to and beyond his or her birth parents. Not everyone cares about the "narrative" of their biological relatives. I say this as someone who does care about that for myself (not adopted), but I know adoptees who really do not feel or want the kind of connection that PP insists is essential. I understand and respect that it means a great deal to that PP but I think the PP doesn't grasp that someone might not feel the same way at all. At least, that doesn't come across in that last post above. It's not universally true that everyone wants or cares about that narrative. Some people either just don't feel that, or they feel their adoptive family's narrative is theirs too, and they don't see why birth parents and "people who came before [their] birth parents" are somehow part of their story in any way but as a DNA sequence. That probably sounds cold and unfeeling to those here who insist that people should want to know their biological relatives. But I am very close to one adoptee in particular and this is how he feels, and he's extremely affectionate and emotional as a person. He just doesn't feel a craving or need to know details other than what he already knows about why his parents put him up for adoption.


I agree. My mother was not raised by her biological family. She has had no interest learning about or meeting her biological family. She has never wanted to connect to them or learn about her "birth narrative." She has her reasons which are not only no-one's business, but they should be respected.


Respected by whom? Who is forcing her to search? This is an odd answer. Did you miss a point here in trying seem like a new poster?
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