Youngkin creates tip line for parents and students to report teachers for Thought Crime

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Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

The RWNJs pushing all of this define "indoctrination" as any opinion or personal belief they disagree with. Their intention is to ensure that anything taught reflects the right wing view of the world with no dissenters. Look no further than the books and concepts they're anxious to ban as proof of that.

Oh, the irony!! Look no further than all the threads calling Republicans "traitors, racists, Nazis" - because they don't agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

The RWNJs pushing all of this define "indoctrination" as any opinion or personal belief they disagree with. Their intention is to ensure that anything taught reflects the right wing view of the world with no dissenters. Look no further than the books and concepts they're anxious to ban as proof of that.

Oh, the irony!! Look no further than all the threads calling Republicans "traitors, racists, Nazis" - because they don't agree with you.

“Brad, just find me 11,000 more ballots. That’s all we need.”

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Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

How about if someone says Blue Lives Matter? They'll be investigated and disciplined, right?

NP. I’d definitely report that to Glennie’s hotline! Give those crackers something to investigate!

Will the hotline operators be issued a list of what kinds of indoctrination is allowed (right wing) and what kinds of indoctrination is a forbidden hate crime (anything else?)

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There would be no need for a tipline if the media did their job properly. DCUM should not be the only source. Conservative media reported "Privilege Bingo" but it has yet to make the WAPO. This type of thing should not go on in schools and there should be a place to report it. When the local school system condones it, as FCPS apparently does, there should be a means to get the lessons omitted.

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Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

You get real. This is 1984 stuff. Look at the language you use. Indoctrination…next you will be talking about re-education camps. How in the hell did we let people like this have any responsibility?

DP. Are you the OP of this thread? Or do you agree with this OP? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1031920.page
If so, you have absolutely zero self-awareness. Wow.

No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

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No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

Actually, he is trying to stop inappropriate indoctrination in the classroom. Where would you suggest parents go with their complaints?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

How about if someone says Blue Lives Matter? They'll be investigated and disciplined, right?

NP. I’d definitely report that to Glennie’s hotline! Give those crackers something to investigate!

Will the hotline operators be issued a list of what kinds of indoctrination is allowed (right wing) and what kinds of indoctrination is a forbidden hate crime (anything else?)

We don’t need idiots hounding teachers. If you have kids in school, talk to your kids, and if they are doing fine, thank the teachers and let them do their jobs. If they aren’t doing fine, ask them what is going on. It isn’t because of a woke teacher. If you don’t have kids in school, stay out of it. It’s a made up race baiting issue.

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No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

Actually, he is trying to stop inappropriate indoctrination in the classroom. Where would you suggest parents go with their complaints?

It isn’t happening. Some teachers tell the truth and you think it is indoctrination because you have been indoctrinated with loony conspiracy theories.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

You get real. This is 1984 stuff. Look at the language you use. Indoctrination…next you will be talking about re-education camps. How in the hell did we let people like this have any responsibility?

DP. Are you the OP of this thread? Or do you agree with this OP? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1031920.page
If so, you have absolutely zero self-awareness. Wow.

No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

It's not for reporting "political thought," you dodo. It's for noting instances of inappropriate bias in lessons - such as the ridiculous surveys that were mentioned earlier. And really - you need to take your own advice. GL.

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Thread levity needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

You get real. This is 1984 stuff. Look at the language you use. Indoctrination…next you will be talking about re-education camps. How in the hell did we let people like this have any responsibility?

DP. Are you the OP of this thread? Or do you agree with this OP? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1031920.page
If so, you have absolutely zero self-awareness. Wow.

No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

It's not for reporting "political thought," you dodo. It's for noting instances of inappropriate bias in lessons - such as the ridiculous surveys that were mentioned earlier. And really - you need to take your own advice. GL.

Tell it to the principal or the school board or talk to the teacher directly. What is wrong with you people?

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“We’re asking for folks to send us reports and observations,” Youngkin said, “help us be aware of … their child being denied their rights that parents have in Virginia, and we’re going to make sure we catalogue it all. … And that gives us further, further ability to make sure we’re rooting it out.”

Rooting WHAT out?

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Anonymous wrote:Why has this devolved to talking about teaching slavery? It isn't about not teaching about slavery and the associated political history.

This is about so-called anti-racist and CRT influenced ideas being used in public schools. Call it the successor ideology, whatever you want. If this were about not teaching slavery or Jim Crow, and so on, it would have been an issue three, four, five, six, seven... years ago. But it wasn't. Why?

Because white conservatives are not allowed to be against teaching the history of slavery and civil rights movement of the 1960s. There's social consequences for things like that (or there were...). So, instead, they attack adjacent movements and modern leaders in the civil rights struggle.

It's called Dog Whistle politics. And wealthy conservatives have been doing it since forever to get poor whites agitated.

So if that is what you believe, stop with the discussion about practical history already being taught.

Start discussing what is actually being newly taught. Defend it. Justify it.

What is being taught? Show me what's being taught in your child's classroom that is so offensive. The onus is on those screaming "CRT!!! Report the teachers to the police!!!" to show that inappropriate materials are being forced onto their children.

You and your interest groups are railing against something that really isn't happening inside of classrooms. There are no CRT materials in my kids' classes.

To the extent that their are inappropriate teachers saying unhinged things, that's happened since forever. That happened when I was in high school and those teachers were eventually removed from their classes.

But this ideological witchhunt by the Governor and Virginia conservatives is insane.

It's not about "CRT materials." This is not some rigid case that involves only teaching kids to be critical theorists. But you know that . The argument is about CRT-related concepts becoming integral to schooling: anti-racist pedagogy, so-called inherent privilege, the "white supremacy" of educational and cultural norms, systemic bias, etc.

If you want to learn more about what these people disagree with, you can look at the EdEquityVA site, although much of that site is now gone so you have to look at its history. There are many institutions that partner with schools that describe how CRT-related ideas should be applied to influence educators and in teaching. I believe SPLC does to some degree. There are others. Many Virginia schools have partnered with these types of people and organizations to alter curriculums and teaching methods. That isn't a secret. You can read the contracts.

From the EdEquityVA site "anti-racism requires acknowledging that racist beliefs and structures are pervasive in education and then actively doing work to tear down those beliefs and structures." If you believe racist beliefs are pervasive in education, and existing educational norms should be torn down, that is fine. But there are people who disagree with that, and they are pushing back. This isn't about making people like slavery. But if you want to reduce it to such laziness, you're perfectly welcome.

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The Leadership Academy is another business which FCPS spent thousands contracting and consulting with for teacher training. Here's some mission statements from their website:

To consistently provide each student access to the learning opportunities they need to excel, schools need strong culturally responsive leaders. We define culturally responsive leadership as being able to recognize how institutionalized racism affects your own life and the lives of the students and families you work with, and embracing your role in mitigating, disrupting and dismantling systemic oppression. Culturally responsive leaders focus on academic success, cultural competence, and developing students’ and educators’ abilities to think critically about the world around them. They create learning experiences intentionally built to meet the needs of every child. Being culturally responsive is the work at the heart of making school systems more equitable. We support school and school system leaders in using an equity lens to implement a vision, build strong school and district culture, set clear and high expectations, and develop and lead principals and teachers who ensure rigorous and culturally responsive instruction and the opportunity for all students to be successful.

We offer research-based hands-on, job-embedded learning experiences and deep group instruction to maximize development, and guide leaders through hard conversations on race and bias, developing their ability to lead their own staff in the work required to disrupt systemic inequities. A strategic approach is essential for making authentic and sustainable growth and change. We help leaders and their teams conduct equity-informed assessments of systems, policies, and practices, and use those findings to prioritize needs and develop and implement longer-term strategies. We provide and can customize professional learning that develops culturally responsive leaders equipped with the knowledge, skills, and resources to advance equity, including reflecting on their personal equity journey, defining and observing culturally responsive instruction, and building school and family coalitions.

https://www.leadershipacademy.org/about-us/

Would you please explain your opposition to the bolded? You aft as if it is self evident but I truly do not understand why it is a problem for teachers to be mitigating, disrupting and dismantling systemic oppression. I want my community to be anti-oppression. Do you not agree?

I want my kids to be educated - using facts and sources. I do not want my kids listening to a teacher lecture them on "systemic oppression." That's where critical thinking comes in. Learning from history, so as not to repeat mistakes. Not being sanctimoniously lectured about racism and "inherent bias." That's something parents can teach their own kids about.

Luckily, my youngest is about to graduate, so we will be done with the lunacy that FCPS has recently embraced. I'm sure you'll enjoy it, however.

You do realize that “facts” and “sources” will absolutely support the concept of systematic racism, right? Do a little research on red-lining, lasting impact of how lack of access to homeownership has generational impact, the resume studies on how black and other minority job candidates are discriminated against in job searches, how black kids *with the same behavior* are more likely to be punished more harshly, how teachers treat kids differently based on how much ‘potential’ they are told a kid has and that if they think a kid has potential that the outcomes are dramatically different. Why do you *not* want these facts and sources even discussed?

-white parent who is actually listening

[Anonymous]

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No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

Actually, he is trying to stop inappropriate indoctrination in the classroom. Where would you suggest parents go with their complaints?

Who defines what that means?

PS. You are not well. Get some help.

[Anonymous]

My antimandate, antivax, antimask leftist friend kept insisting that critical race theory wasn't why Youngkin won. I think this call line says it all.