Middle school magnet results?

[Anonymous]

How does MCPS conduct the lottery? Do they pick names out of a bowl?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In wait pool but not accepted to either TPMS or Eastern:

Fall 2021 report card grades: All As CES
reading level: not sure?
MAP-R: 241
MAP-M: 257

Sigh

All As CES
MAP-M 271
Still in lottery-pool. It is not about talent, MCPS encourages luck, not talent. Did you get any good luck charm for your child to increase his/her chances of getting picked up by lottery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does MCPS conduct the lottery? Do they pick names out of a bowl?

Biggest fish bowl you've ever seen. 12,000 little pieces of paper folded up in there. And they only give the divers five minutes of air in their tanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am actually relieved about not getting into Eastern - I had one student go through the program and would not want the stress it entails for my rising 6th grader, but disappointed they were not selected for TMPS - they are a math loving kiddo with 99th percentile MAPS since Kindergarten.

Pretty much the same exact situation! Don't know if we would have done Eastern again, but the TPMS would have been perfect for our STEM loving youngest.

Now just the question of their friends - almost all of who were in CES and 5/6 math with them and probably in both pools (and I imagine they all have a pretty good idea of each others abilities). All kinds of potential there for social issues, tears, and complaints of "how is that fair when...".

How stressed kids will be about this is family driven. We haven't even mentioned the magnet to our kid. If he gets in, then we'll discuss. Kids might talk about it in a fleeting way, but I doubt most are obsessing unless their parents are.

Simply not a universal experience. Some kids have siblings in the programs and know about them. Some kids friends actually do talk about this stuff (especially if they are in programs like CES already - they talk about it). It is not just the families that add pressure though this surely happens. We have not disucssed it here much here (especially since we knew it would be random), but these kids are all on group chats together - I can't imagine that over the weekend they won't discuss if someone gets in (and someone inevitably will).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am actually relieved about not getting into Eastern - I had one student go through the program and would not want the stress it entails for my rising 6th grader, but disappointed they were not selected for TMPS - they are a math loving kiddo with 99th percentile MAPS since Kindergarten.

Pretty much the same exact situation! Don't know if we would have done Eastern again, but the TPMS would have been perfect for our STEM loving youngest.

Now just the question of their friends - almost all of who were in CES and 5/6 math with them and probably in both pools (and I imagine they all have a pretty good idea of each others abilities). All kinds of potential there for social issues, tears, and complaints of "how is that fair when...".

How stressed kids will be about this is family driven. We haven't even mentioned the magnet to our kid. If he gets in, then we'll discuss. Kids might talk about it in a fleeting way, but I doubt most are obsessing unless their parents are.

Simply not a universal experience. Some kids have siblings in the programs and know about them. Some kids friends actually do talk about this stuff (especially if they are in programs like CES already - they talk about it). It is not just the families that add pressure though this surely happens. We have not disucssed it here much here (especially since we knew it would be random), but these kids are all on group chats together - I can't imagine that over the weekend they won't discuss if someone gets in (and someone inevitably will).

Absolutely NOT. No "group chats" We don't give our children free access to that much internet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am actually relieved about not getting into Eastern - I had one student go through the program and would not want the stress it entails for my rising 6th grader, but disappointed they were not selected for TMPS - they are a math loving kiddo with 99th percentile MAPS since Kindergarten.

Pretty much the same exact situation! Don't know if we would have done Eastern again, but the TPMS would have been perfect for our STEM loving youngest.

Now just the question of their friends - almost all of who were in CES and 5/6 math with them and probably in both pools (and I imagine they all have a pretty good idea of each others abilities). All kinds of potential there for social issues, tears, and complaints of "how is that fair when...".

How stressed kids will be about this is family driven. We haven't even mentioned the magnet to our kid. If he gets in, then we'll discuss. Kids might talk about it in a fleeting way, but I doubt most are obsessing unless their parents are.

Simply not a universal experience. Some kids have siblings in the programs and know about them. Some kids friends actually do talk about this stuff (especially if they are in programs like CES already - they talk about it). It is not just the families that add pressure though this surely happens. We have not disucssed it here much here (especially since we knew it would be random), but these kids are all on group chats together - I can't imagine that over the weekend they won't discuss if someone gets in (and someone inevitably will).

Absolutely NOT. No "group chats" We don't give our children free access to that much internet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am actually relieved about not getting into Eastern - I had one student go through the program and would not want the stress it entails for my rising 6th grader, but disappointed they were not selected for TMPS - they are a math loving kiddo with 99th percentile MAPS since Kindergarten.

Pretty much the same exact situation! Don't know if we would have done Eastern again, but the TPMS would have been perfect for our STEM loving youngest.

Now just the question of their friends - almost all of who were in CES and 5/6 math with them and probably in both pools (and I imagine they all have a pretty good idea of each others abilities). All kinds of potential there for social issues, tears, and complaints of "how is that fair when...".

How stressed kids will be about this is family driven. We haven't even mentioned the magnet to our kid. If he gets in, then we'll discuss. Kids might talk about it in a fleeting way, but I doubt most are obsessing unless their parents are.

Simply not a universal experience. Some kids have siblings in the programs and know about them. Some kids friends actually do talk about this stuff (especially if they are in programs like CES already - they talk about it). It is not just the families that add pressure though this surely happens. We have not disucssed it here much here (especially since we knew it would be random), but these kids are all on group chats together - I can't imagine that over the weekend they won't discuss if someone gets in (and someone inevitably will).

Absolutely NOT. No "group chats" We don't give our children free access to that much internet.

Certainly take your points, but they are less and less universal. Especially with COVID a lot of friend intereactions moved online. Perhaps not in your house, but my point is that your house is not every house, and pointing out variations of "good parents don't have these problems" is neither kind nor helpful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am actually relieved about not getting into Eastern - I had one student go through the program and would not want the stress it entails for my rising 6th grader, but disappointed they were not selected for TMPS - they are a math loving kiddo with 99th percentile MAPS since Kindergarten.

Pretty much the same exact situation! Don't know if we would have done Eastern again, but the TPMS would have been perfect for our STEM loving youngest.

Now just the question of their friends - almost all of who were in CES and 5/6 math with them and probably in both pools (and I imagine they all have a pretty good idea of each others abilities). All kinds of potential there for social issues, tears, and complaints of "how is that fair when...".

How stressed kids will be about this is family driven. We haven't even mentioned the magnet to our kid. If he gets in, then we'll discuss. Kids might talk about it in a fleeting way, but I doubt most are obsessing unless their parents are.

Simply not a universal experience. Some kids have siblings in the programs and know about them. Some kids friends actually do talk about this stuff (especially if they are in programs like CES already - they talk about it). It is not just the families that add pressure though this surely happens. We have not disucssed it here much here (especially since we knew it would be random), but these kids are all on group chats together - I can't imagine that over the weekend they won't discuss if someone gets in (and someone inevitably will).

Absolutely NOT. No "group chats" We don't give our children free access to that much internet.

Seriously, group chats by 5th graders? I'm not saying it won't come up, but it is the families that make it an obsession and a super upsetting thing. We have a family member in the TPMS magnet, as well as a good friend. No one cares and talks about it as a big thing

[Anonymous]

My daughter got selected in the Magnet program at Roberto Clemente. She has straight 99% in MAP-M from kindergarten (MAP P) to 5th fall 21. but prepared her mind after I came to know from informed delivery her result is coming. Thank god she got in. She is already in the CES program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter got selected in the Magnet program at Roberto Clemente. She has straight 99% in MAP-M from kindergarten (MAP P) to 5th fall 21. but prepared her mind after I came to know from informed delivery her result is coming. Thank god she got in. She is already in the CES program.

Congrats!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does MCPS conduct the lottery? Do they pick names out of a bowl?

Biggest fish bowl you've ever seen. 12,000 little pieces of paper folded up in there. And they only give the divers five minutes of air in their tanks.

On a serious note, how do they conduct lottery and how do we know it is a fair process. Randomization is important and results can easily be biased if the process is not fair.

[Anonymous]

My son was accepted by Easton. Currently at CES. Straight A and Straight 99% in MAP M. 90+% in MAP R.

Even so, I have to say we hate MCPS lottery system. It's difficult to explain to the kids that your lives sometimes are decided by lottery, instead of your efforts.

Good lucks to all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son was accepted by Easton. Currently at CES. Straight A and Straight 99% in MAP M. 90+% in MAP R.

Even so, I have to say we hate MCPS lottery system. It's difficult to explain to the kids that your lives sometimes are decided by lottery, instead of your efforts.

Good lucks to all.

Maybe start by explaining that nothing of consequence is decided in the 5th grade?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does MCPS conduct the lottery? Do they pick names out of a bowl?

Biggest fish bowl you've ever seen. 12,000 little pieces of paper folded up in there. And they only give the divers five minutes of air in their tanks.

On a serious note, how do they conduct lottery and how do we know it is a fair process. Randomization is important and results can easily be biased if the process is not fair.

I've never seen anything about how the lottery process is conducted. Why do you assume it is a random lottery? They've never stated it is a random lottery. My guess is that it is a weighted lottery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does MCPS conduct the lottery? Do they pick names out of a bowl?

Biggest fish bowl you've ever seen. 12,000 little pieces of paper folded up in there. And they only give the divers five minutes of air in their tanks.

On a serious note, how do they conduct lottery and how do we know it is a fair process. Randomization is important and results can easily be biased if the process is not fair.

I've never seen anything about how the lottery process is conducted. Why do you assume it is a random lottery? They've never stated it is a random lottery. My guess is that it is a weighted lottery.

I've always assumed it was weighted but there's no way to prove it, of course. Just as we can't ensure the process is fair to all. If your child is in the lottery pool, take comfort in knowing that they're going to be fine regardless of outcome. They're one of the lucky ones, whether by gift of native intelligence, familial resources, or combination therein.