City council voting today on bill to force school closings

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Anonymous wrote:I really am beginning to think that R. White and JL George want the middle class to leave DC. I just don't get it.

The DC middle class doesn't all believe with you, silly goose.

So what is R. White's or JL George's proposals for parents who cannot maintain jobs if schools close? I understand that for the rich it is NBD, and for the poor they are more likely to have public assistance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

+1 - I can't wait to vote against him in the primary

Interesting. I can't wait to vote for him.

+1 I can’t wait to vote for him either!

He isn’t presenting this bill for school closures…he’s presenting for more transparency and accountability from DCPS and he’s a DCPS parent. I can’t wait until the staff shortage boils over and forcing all you to be home and to take some accountability for your own kids that you decided to have!

You sound like you are from the 1950’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really am beginning to think that R. White and JL George want the middle class to leave DC. I just don't get it.

The DC middle class doesn't all believe with you, silly goose.

Yes, learning loss and womens’ careers taking a nosedive for no perceptible public health gain is silly.

Friendly reminder for people who are not registered Dems that you need to change your voter registration 30 days before the primary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really am beginning to think that R. White and JL George want the middle class to leave DC. I just don't get it.

The DC middle class doesn't all believe with you, silly goose.

So what is R. White's or JL George's proposals for parents who cannot maintain jobs if schools close? I understand that for the rich it is NBD, and for the poor they are more likely to have public assistance.

If you think JLG is anti-middle class than you've clearly never talked to her. I think she's one of the few who has it right in this mess, and I'm glad I voted for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We know about the long-term effects of influenza and the common cold on the human body. We know next to nothing about the long-term effects of COVID-19. We have to look beyond the short-term symptoms (or no symptoms) that COVID causes. Until we have a greater understanding of what COVID truly does to the body, I have no problem with public policies designed to reduce exposure.

For how long, and at what cost? This is now the third year of disrupted education for these kids. How long do we keep them out of school? Long-term effects, by definition, take a long time to manifest. How many years of education are you okay with? And how much exposure are we reducing? Kids who aren't in school have to go somewhere, and at least at school you can somewhat enforce masking, control ventilation, do testing, etc. And parents still have to work, restaurants and bars and gyms are still open...why is it kids (and working parents) who have to keep taking it on the chin?

Its NOT about protecting the kids, its about Teacher demands via their Union

Keep in mind, teachers get paid whether the schools are open in person or NOT

Now, if teachers were only paid if students came in person and if schools were only funded if they opened in person, then they would be OPEN just like Restaraunts

Secondly,

[Anonymous]

The vast majority of teachers at my kids schools are there to teach kids because they love it, not for the "big money" (which isn't that great given the high cost of living).

They want to be in person with kids because that's a lot easier, but they also understand what doesn't work a lot better than you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Okay, then let's close all restaurants, bars, gyms, and other non-essential businesses, rather than SCHOOLS.

Let’s close all of the above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Okay, then let's close all restaurants, bars, gyms, and other non-essential businesses, rather than SCHOOLS.

YES. The fact that we're having this conversation is stone-cold stupid when schools should have been the last thing to close. It makes absolutely no sense that I can go to Orange Theory in person, sit at a bar, and stand among the sweaty masses at Starbucks but my kid can't go to school. Obviously we should be looking for as many workable solutions as possible, but having the most correct decision off the table entirely is peak idiocy.

I'm the first poster you quoted. I agree, but if elected officials aren't doing their job with closures, then something else needs to give to keep hospitals functioning. The priority is not kids in school, even though it would be so great if it was. The priority at this point is getting standards of care in hospitals to some degree of decent. I fully concur that this is unfair on the kids and parents. But we need healthcare more than anything else. And if you want to go scream at the Mayor, Governors and others for not shutting down bars and restaurants and other businesses when the time was right, then be my guest - they entirely deserve it! They're all think they can weasel out of difficult choices and no one will see through their little plans. Infuriating.

If we want to keep hospitals functioning, we should stop testing/isolating/quarantining asymptotic staff. If sick, stay home, otherwise work as usual. The CDC changes were a good first step but we need to go further.

No. People who are positive and don’t appear “sick” (symptomatic) or who aren’t symptomatic YET can spread it. Your idiotic “plan” promotes more spread and puts MORE burden on the hospitals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

+1 - I can't wait to vote against him in the primary

Interesting. I can't wait to vote for him.

+1 I can’t wait to vote for him either!

He isn’t presenting this bill for school closures…he’s presenting for more transparency and accountability from DCPS and he’s a DCPS parent. I can’t wait until the staff shortage boils over and forcing all you to be home and to take some accountability for your own kids that you decided to have!

Barf.

Sorry the truth hurts. DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know about the long-term effects of influenza and the common cold on the human body. We know next to nothing about the long-term effects of COVID-19. We have to look beyond the short-term symptoms (or no symptoms) that COVID causes. Until we have a greater understanding of what COVID truly does to the body, I have no problem with public policies designed to reduce exposure.

For how long, and at what cost? This is now the third year of disrupted education for these kids. How long do we keep them out of school? Long-term effects, by definition, take a long time to manifest. How many years of education are you okay with? And how much exposure are we reducing? Kids who aren't in school have to go somewhere, and at least at school you can somewhat enforce masking, control ventilation, do testing, etc. And parents still have to work, restaurants and bars and gyms are still open...why is it kids (and working parents) who have to keep taking it on the chin?

Its NOT about protecting the kids, its about Teacher demands via their Union

Keep in mind, teachers get paid whether the schools are open in person or NOT

Now, if teachers were only paid if students came in person and if schools were only funded if they opened in person, then they would be OPEN just like Restaraunts

Secondly,

Are there certain demands from the teachers union that you disagree with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Okay, then let's close all restaurants, bars, gyms, and other non-essential businesses, rather than SCHOOLS.

Let’s close all of the above.

The Mayor has been doing all of this to protect the economy, so she's not going to do that. Other countries figure out how to do it but we're special.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Hahahahaha! Closing schools with DO NOTHING to affect the situation in hospitals. You think 3rd graders are flooding hospitals with Covid? People going to work, the Kennedy center, the gym, Oyamel, their company's happy hour at a pub in Dupont are all carrying on as they were in early December and will continue to do so.

But, sure, let's harm the 9 year olds so the half vaxxed overweight 60 year olds can keep on keeping on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Hahahahaha! Closing schools with DO NOTHING to affect the situation in hospitals. You think 3rd graders are flooding hospitals with Covid? People going to work, the Kennedy center, the gym, Oyamel, their company's happy hour at a pub in Dupont are all carrying on as they were in early December and will continue to do so.

But, sure, let's harm the 9 year olds so the half vaxxed overweight 60 year olds can keep on keeping on.

Closing schools is like saying a prayer to some people. Like a ritual. They want to do something and think this is the virtuous thing to do, even if there is no evidence that it helps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Okay, then let's close all restaurants, bars, gyms, and other non-essential businesses, rather than SCHOOLS.

Let’s close all of the above.

The Mayor has been doing all of this to protect the economy, so she's not going to do that. Other countries figure out how to do it but we're special.

Which other countries are you referring to? Ones with very high taxes, and lots of social services? Ones with national healthcare systems? Ones with much smaller populations than the US? Please stop comparing us to western Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Okay, then let's close all restaurants, bars, gyms, and other non-essential businesses, rather than SCHOOLS.

Let’s close all of the above.

The Mayor has been doing all of this to protect the economy, so she's not going to do that. Other countries figure out how to do it but we're special.

Which other countries are you referring to? Ones with very high taxes, and lots of social services? Ones with national healthcare systems? Ones with much smaller populations than the US? Please stop comparing us to western Europe.

And it's not like the restrictions and abundant testing in Europe have prevented skyrocketing case rates... Because most spread still happens in private homes, where people will congregate if public venues aren't available and even if the government puts limits on how many people can meet. Young people in Europe are done with it and are ignoring the limits put on their lives, and I can't blame them.