$3.3 million in CCDC / Barnaby Woods

[Anonymous]

So, who is buying this place? If you have 3.3M, why are you buying in Barnaby Woods? (And I live in CCDC, and love it here).

[Anonymous]

Took a client by today. They’ve been looking in the neighborhood for a while and willing to pay at this price point. Heartbreaking to see this flip as a shift from simple family-oriented homes in Barnaby Woods to ostentatiousness Potomac-like macmansions. A quiet neighborhood destroyed by greed of single developer. Walk down the alley and look at the homes on each side of it. It feels like the developer parked a suburban in between two mini coopers. I feel terrible for the families on each side. They should be able to collect damages for a lack of vitamin D flowing into their house. Plan to pass on this one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, in both the front and back it's a fishbowl with no window coverings. Imagine how many thousands of dollars the new owners will have to spend on window coverings, especially the two story windows in rear.

If they can even be covered! They’re enormous.

I live a couple of blocks away and I hate what is happening in our neighborhood. This house is so out of place and I feel really bad for the next door neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last sold for $959k in 3/20. How could anyone possibly think a flipped house could go up so much in value in that time period?

That’s what I’d like to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Took a client by today. They’ve been looking in the neighborhood for a while and willing to pay at this price point. Heartbreaking to see this flip as a shift from simple family-oriented homes in Barnaby Woods to ostentatiousness Potomac-like macmansions. A quiet neighborhood destroyed by greed of single developer. Walk down the alley and look at the homes on each side of it. It feels like the developer parked a suburban in between two mini coopers. I feel terrible for the families on each side. They should be able to collect damages for a lack of vitamin D flowing into their house. Plan to pass on this one

Overall kind of a bizarre comment trying to blame this developer on beginning the process of making this neighborhood ostentatious. There have been multiple other mansions built in Barnaby and surrounding neighborhoods over the years. There are two literally on the same street (6427 and 6517).

Either way, that’s how the tide is turning in DC and has always been turning. There is a lot of money that wants to be parked in DC and the surrounding suburbs and old neighborhoods get huge homes.

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Anonymous wrote:3.2 and street parking. Sweet.

I think this is a fair point. There’s no shed or anything. Where do you put bikes, lawn mower, etc? Maybe they have a solution not clear from the photos. Also want to know where the trash cans are and how you get them to the curb.

It says two of off alley spots will be constructed prior to closing.

They would have constructed them already if it was possible. No way you construct a house like that and wait on alley parking. My bet is the alley doesn't go all the way to the house and they are hoping to buy rights from the neighbors. Hence the ridiculous price. I bet the city hasn't agreed to it either.

+100 Developer is trying to lure buyers in by falsely promising parking. House sold in 2020 with no off street parking and continues to have none.

I live next to this house and this is false. Developer (and some of the neighbors to the left of the developer) waiting for city to pave what is known as a “paper alley” by DDOT. This is an alley that is on the map and is a real alley, but was abandoned by the city. There are several of these around Barnaby / CCDC and in most cases people still use them, they are just ragged. This one in particular is almost not usable and many years ago someone put large rocks on it to stop through traffic.

This poster is likely the developer. Legal and paved alley stops one property away from this house. There is no alley behind this house and there never has been. It is DC owned open space with water management feature and a creek/tributary to Rock Creek. Developer knew this when he purchased the house. There are no large rocks blocking the alley - not sure what poster is talking about. There are two city built concrete posts designating the legal end to the alley that have been there for decades.

You’re just flat out wrong here.

https://maps.dcoz.dc.gov/zr16/#l=18&x=-8578549.546493001&y=4718052.774085748&mms=24!21!22!4!2!1!8!11

You can pull up any DC map, here is the zoning map for instance. It absolutely is a DDOT alley and not “DC owned open space”. I know because I live here.

You are clearly the developer. All the neighbors are opposed. Your map is not an accurate detailed map. There is no exit on Worthington. The legal alley ends before this property, there are posts designating the end of the legal alley and the paved road ends at those posts. Property was bought with no off street parking and continues to have no off street parking. There is a creek and tributary to Rock Creek in the open green space behind this block. It will not be paved over.

I’m not sure which fantasy land you live in, but it absolutely 100% is a DDOT alley. I don’t particularly want them to pave it as I walk my dog there all the time and my house is a few houses to the right so I already have parking, so it literally doesn’t effect me (aside from the house selling for 3.3 and maybe boosting my property value). Also, I don’t know how they plan to handle the creek, but if you were actually one of the neighbors you would actually be familiar with the situation. Just because you don’t support it doesn’t mean you should go on the internet and lie about the situation.

Wow, anger issues much? Fantasy land? Really? Actually, also a neighbor and very familiar. !00% of what was said is true. If you walk your dog down there then you know as well. The paved alley ends and there are concrete posts designating the end of the drivable paved alley. DC owns the land, yes, that has never been in dispute. It is a "paper alley", not a real paved alley. DDOT has a water management feature to handle all the alley's water runoff and then it turns into a creek/tributary to Rock Creek and open green space. The house was bought without off street parking, as it has never had off street parking. Part of the reason it was a less expensive property. Developer created an unpermitted temporary construction road over city's (DDOT) land during the construction and was forced to remove it. There are lots of agencies involved and aware of this situation. No lies, all facts.

Nothing you said is false, but you’re missing the point. The key thing that you mentioned is that the alley is a paper alley owned by DDOT — I have spoke to DDOT multiple times about this, as have all the neighbors. The alley WILL be paved to the end of that house’s property line to allow two permeable paver parking spots.. This isn’t up for debate — this is a fact.. It is already on DDOT’s schedule and the preconstruction meeting has already taken place. Furthermore, if any of the homes to the left of the property want the paving to extend, they have that right and they can phone it in to DDOT.

Bottom line — whether you or the few neighbors that are complaining disapprove is irrelevant. It will be done. If you would like we can trade emails and place a bet on whether it gets done or not. Easy money for yours truly.

Hmmmmm. Not sure I buy it. Why would the listing have the weird line about two spaces before closing? Wouldn't the listing says something like: Off street parking! Why make that weird disclaimer if this is all on the up and up and DDOT's list of to dos? Also why are there neighbors saying it isn't happening?

But at the end of the day most of the houses, even the old ones, have curb cuts and garages (if only tiny ones) and/or access to an alley. This one definitely doesn't have a curb cut or garage and currently no alley access. Instead of two permeable parking spots how about a garage? Maybe a carport? I would just want a place to store my garden gear, bikes and car so I don't have to clear snow off my car for 3.3.

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Given that this sold for 2.5 in Barnaby, I’m guessing they get it or close.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2-Pinehurst-Cir-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452550_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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Anonymous wrote:The developer has clearly discovered this thread and is justifying all their poor decisions.

After interacting with these developers, I would not trust anything they produce. Buyer beware.

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Anonymous wrote:Given that this sold for 2.5 in Barnaby, I’m guessing they get it or close.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2-Pinehurst-Cir-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452550_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

IMO this house is infinitely nicer and more liveable than the one this thread is about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that this sold for 2.5 in Barnaby, I’m guessing they get it or close.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2-Pinehurst-Cir-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452550_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

Ummm this has a pool and a garage.

[Anonymous]

Plenty of people willing to spend $3 million for a good house on a large lot in Barnaby Woods. Unfortunately, this house misses the mark on a lot of levels.

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Anonymous wrote:Given that this sold for 2.5 in Barnaby, I’m guessing they get it or close.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2-Pinehurst-Cir-NW-Washington-DC-20015/452550_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

Ummm this has a pool and a garage.

For a million more you get grass and pavers.

[Anonymous]

This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/6600-32nd-Pl-NW-20015/home/9996036

[Anonymous]

I thought it was gorgeous until I considered all the problems with it on this thread. Fortunately I am not the target market. This one will sell to two law firm partners who are probably miserable humans. Have fun, neighbors!