$3.3 million in CCDC / Barnaby Woods

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Anonymous wrote:This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/6600-32nd-Pl-NW-20015/home/9996036

Sold for 2.5 and has a driveway + garage.

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Anonymous wrote:Took a client by today. They’ve been looking in the neighborhood for a while and willing to pay at this price point. Heartbreaking to see this flip as a shift from simple family-oriented homes in Barnaby Woods to ostentatiousness Potomac-like macmansions. A quiet neighborhood destroyed by greed of single developer. Walk down the alley and look at the homes on each side of it. It feels like the developer parked a suburban in between two mini coopers. I feel terrible for the families on each side. They should be able to collect damages for a lack of vitamin D flowing into their house. Plan to pass on this one

Overall kind of a bizarre comment trying to blame this developer on beginning the process of making this neighborhood ostentatious. There have been multiple other mansions built in Barnaby and surrounding neighborhoods over the years. There are two literally on the same street (6427 and 6517).

Either way, that’s how the tide is turning in DC and has always been turning. There is a lot of money that wants to be parked in DC and the surrounding suburbs and old neighborhoods get huge homes.

It’s it the “mansion” size, it the level of taste or lack there of.

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*It’s not…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/6600-32nd-Pl-NW-20015/home/9996036

There are a lot more crazy bad houses going up. That one is terrible, as is the one just across the street that is 2 houses in on Barnaby that dwarfs the house next to it. The worst IMO is the monstrosity going up on Nevada and Rittenhouse. They tore down a beautiful house (and no I don’t believe them when they claim it was necessary, it had been impeccably restored).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/6600-32nd-Pl-NW-20015/home/9996036

There are a lot more crazy bad houses going up. That one is terrible, as is the one just across the street that is 2 houses in on Barnaby that dwarfs the house next to it. The worst IMO is the monstrosity going up on Nevada and Rittenhouse. They tore down a beautiful house (and no I don’t believe them when they claim it was necessary, it had been impeccably restored).

That new house is huge but it's on a big lot. It might be fine when they're finished.

[Anonymous]

Even with parking spaces I would not want this house on Barnaby. Far to many other issues including poor design and taste, many listed on this thread but not all.

[Anonymous]

The new buyer should force the developer to plant tall mature evergreens on the back of this property for privacy. This house is a huge light box at night and can be seen half way up Upland Terrace - a block and a half behind the house. You can see everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/6600-32nd-Pl-NW-20015/home/9996036

There are a lot more crazy bad houses going up. That one is terrible, as is the one just across the street that is 2 houses in on Barnaby that dwarfs the house next to it. The worst IMO is the monstrosity going up on Nevada and Rittenhouse. They tore down a beautiful house (and no I don’t believe them when they claim it was necessary, it had been impeccably restored).

Do you know what the deal with that was? I was shocked to see them tear that house down. They paid like 1.8 million for it…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This house is similar and sold a year ago. It’s now estimated to be worth $3 million. It’s not pretty, but it is more appealing to the masses than the Barnaby house. Only real thing Barnaby has over this house is a better backyard.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/6600-32nd-Pl-NW-20015/home/9996036

There are a lot more crazy bad houses going up. That one is terrible, as is the one just across the street that is 2 houses in on Barnaby that dwarfs the house next to it. The worst IMO is the monstrosity going up on Nevada and Rittenhouse. They tore down a beautiful house (and no I don’t believe them when they claim it was necessary, it had been impeccably restored).

The house on Rittenhouse may be large, but at least the style is classic and in keeping with the neighborhood. The house on Barnaby is a tacky wanna be modern Tudor from the front and a huge box with windows resembling a retail store from the back. No taste, no class, a mismatch of styles and materials - will be outdated in 5 years.

[Anonymous]

The house on Rittenhouse that they tore down was also really big. I think the new one is just taller. It’ll probably be fine when it’s done. There are so many giant houses on that street already.

[Anonymous]

The thing with the Rittenhouse one is that is it so close to the street. The beautiful old house was set back nicely on the lot.

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Anonymous wrote:3.2 and street parking. Sweet.

I think this is a fair point. There’s no shed or anything. Where do you put bikes, lawn mower, etc? Maybe they have a solution not clear from the photos. Also want to know where the trash cans are and how you get them to the curb.

It says two of off alley spots will be constructed prior to closing.

They would have constructed them already if it was possible. No way you construct a house like that and wait on alley parking. My bet is the alley doesn't go all the way to the house and they are hoping to buy rights from the neighbors. Hence the ridiculous price. I bet the city hasn't agreed to it either.

+100 Developer is trying to lure buyers in by falsely promising parking. House sold in 2020 with no off street parking and continues to have none.

I live next to this house and this is false. Developer (and some of the neighbors to the left of the developer) waiting for city to pave what is known as a “paper alley” by DDOT. This is an alley that is on the map and is a real alley, but was abandoned by the city. There are several of these around Barnaby / CCDC and in most cases people still use them, they are just ragged. This one in particular is almost not usable and many years ago someone put large rocks on it to stop through traffic.

What are you talking about? There was never ever a through alley. It always ended where it stops today. There is a creek/tributary running through. There is no over grown road/alley as you describe and no outlet on Worthington.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3.2 and street parking. Sweet.

I think this is a fair point. There’s no shed or anything. Where do you put bikes, lawn mower, etc? Maybe they have a solution not clear from the photos. Also want to know where the trash cans are and how you get them to the curb.

It says two of off alley spots will be constructed prior to closing.

They would have constructed them already if it was possible. No way you construct a house like that and wait on alley parking. My bet is the alley doesn't go all the way to the house and they are hoping to buy rights from the neighbors. Hence the ridiculous price. I bet the city hasn't agreed to it either.

+100 Developer is trying to lure buyers in by falsely promising parking. House sold in 2020 with no off street parking and continues to have none.

I live next to this house and this is false. Developer (and some of the neighbors to the left of the developer) waiting for city to pave what is known as a “paper alley” by DDOT. This is an alley that is on the map and is a real alley, but was abandoned by the city. There are several of these around Barnaby / CCDC and in most cases people still use them, they are just ragged. This one in particular is almost not usable and many years ago someone put large rocks on it to stop through traffic.

What are you talking about? There was never ever a through alley. It always ended where it stops today. There is a creek/tributary running through. There is no over grown road/alley as you describe and no outlet on Worthington.

Sigh. I’ll say this once more. The alley is a “paper alley” meaning that it is a DDOT owned right of way like any other alley — it is an alley according to DC’s land records, however it has not been maintained by DDOT and thus it is an alley on paper only. What this means, as with any paper alley in the city (subject to certain exemptions I would imagine) is that any neighbor that wants to have it paved by DDOT has the right to have that done. This is exactly what the developer did — they worked with DDOT to have the alley paved up to the property. The preconstruxtion meeting has already taken place, and it is already in DDOT’s schedule. The contractor selected for the job is “Capitol Paving”. The alley WILL be paved up to the developers lot, and the city has granted them two permeable parking spots once the alley work is complete. This isn’t up for debate, this is what is happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3.2 and street parking. Sweet.

I think this is a fair point. There’s no shed or anything. Where do you put bikes, lawn mower, etc? Maybe they have a solution not clear from the photos. Also want to know where the trash cans are and how you get them to the curb.

It says two of off alley spots will be constructed prior to closing.

They would have constructed them already if it was possible. No way you construct a house like that and wait on alley parking. My bet is the alley doesn't go all the way to the house and they are hoping to buy rights from the neighbors. Hence the ridiculous price. I bet the city hasn't agreed to it either.

+100 Developer is trying to lure buyers in by falsely promising parking. House sold in 2020 with no off street parking and continues to have none.

I live next to this house and this is false. Developer (and some of the neighbors to the left of the developer) waiting for city to pave what is known as a “paper alley” by DDOT. This is an alley that is on the map and is a real alley, but was abandoned by the city. There are several of these around Barnaby / CCDC and in most cases people still use them, they are just ragged. This one in particular is almost not usable and many years ago someone put large rocks on it to stop through traffic.

What are you talking about? There was never ever a through alley. It always ended where it stops today. There is a creek/tributary running through. There is no over grown road/alley as you describe and no outlet on Worthington.

Sigh. I’ll say this once more. The alley is a “paper alley” meaning that it is a DDOT owned right of way like any other alley — it is an alley according to DC’s land records, however it has not been maintained by DDOT and thus it is an alley on paper only. What this means, as with any paper alley in the city (subject to certain exemptions I would imagine) is that any neighbor that wants to have it paved by DDOT has the right to have that done. This is exactly what the developer did — they worked with DDOT to have the alley paved up to the property. The preconstruxtion meeting has already taken place, and it is already in DDOT’s schedule. The contractor selected for the job is “Capitol Paving”. The alley WILL be paved up to the developers lot, and the city has granted them two permeable parking spots once the alley work is complete. This isn’t up for debate, this is what is happening.

Totally NOT the developer.

So why did you decide to list it before the alley was paved and the parking spaces built? Seems weird to list in the dead of winter, near the holidays, when you could list after the holidays with a paved alley and driveway?

[Anonymous]

Still calling bs on this one. There is nothing in DDOT alley paving project database about this. All I could find is there are notices and/or stop work orders on the project in SCOUT.

Regardless, for this price I would at lease want a sheshed. Is that too much to ask?