$3.3 million in CCDC / Barnaby Woods

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Anonymous wrote:Jenn Air appliances and no wall ovens at this price point! It is truly inexplicable. Delusional

I don’t care about that. Not everyone does. I think “high end” appliances are overkill at best and 80% scam.

Says no one ever, who is spending $3.3 on new construction. !00% the developer is pp.

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Anonymous wrote:3.2 and street parking. Sweet.

I think this is a fair point. There’s no shed or anything. Where do you put bikes, lawn mower, etc? Maybe they have a solution not clear from the photos. Also want to know where the trash cans are and how you get them to the curb.

It says two of off alley spots will be constructed prior to closing.

They would have constructed them already if it was possible. No way you construct a house like that and wait on alley parking. My bet is the alley doesn't go all the way to the house and they are hoping to buy rights from the neighbors. Hence the ridiculous price. I bet the city hasn't agreed to it either.

+100 Developer is trying to lure buyers in by falsely promising parking. House sold in 2020 with no off street parking and continues to have none.

I live next to this house and this is false. Developer (and some of the neighbors to the left of the developer) waiting for city to pave what is known as a “paper alley” by DDOT. This is an alley that is on the map and is a real alley, but was abandoned by the city. There are several of these around Barnaby / CCDC and in most cases people still use them, they are just ragged. This one in particular is almost not usable and many years ago someone put large rocks on it to stop through traffic.

This poster is likely the developer. Legal and paved alley stops one property away from this house. There is no alley behind this house and there never has been. It is DC owned open space with water management feature and a creek/tributary to Rock Creek. Developer knew this when he purchased the house. There are no large rocks blocking the alley - not sure what poster is talking about. There are two city built concrete posts designating the legal end to the alley that have been there for decades.

You’re just flat out wrong here.

https://maps.dcoz.dc.gov/zr16/#l=18&x=-8578549.546493001&y=4718052.774085748&mms=24!21!22!4!2!1!8!11

You can pull up any DC map, here is the zoning map for instance. It absolutely is a DDOT alley and not “DC owned open space”. I know because I live here.

You are clearly the developer. All the neighbors are opposed. Your map is not an accurate detailed map. There is no exit on Worthington. The legal alley ends before this property, there are posts designating the end of the legal alley and the paved road ends at those posts. Property was bought with no off street parking and continues to have no off street parking. There is a creek and tributary to Rock Creek in the open green space behind this block. It will not be paved over.

I’m not sure which fantasy land you live in, but it absolutely 100% is a DDOT alley. I don’t particularly want them to pave it as I walk my dog there all the time and my house is a few houses to the right so I already have parking, so it literally doesn’t effect me (aside from the house selling for 3.3 and maybe boosting my property value). Also, I don’t know how they plan to handle the creek, but if you were actually one of the neighbors you would actually be familiar with the situation. Just because you don’t support it doesn’t mean you should go on the internet and lie about the situation.

Wow, anger issues much? Fantasy land? Really? Actually, also a neighbor and very familiar. !00% of what was said is true. If you walk your dog down there then you know as well. The paved alley ends and there are concrete posts designating the end of the drivable paved alley. DC owns the land, yes, that has never been in dispute. It is a "paper alley", not a real paved alley. DDOT has a water management feature to handle all the alley's water runoff and then it turns into a creek/tributary to Rock Creek and open green space. The house was bought without off street parking, as it has never had off street parking. Part of the reason it was a less expensive property. Developer created an unpermitted temporary construction road over city's (DDOT) land during the construction and was forced to remove it. There are lots of agencies involved and aware of this situation. No lies, all facts.

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Awwww Developer- you did the neighbors dirty and now you are in a pickle. Not going to get you 3.3.

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Last sold for $959k in 3/20. How could anyone possibly think a flipped house could go up so much in value in that time period?

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Anonymous wrote:The finishes feel overly trendy and like it would be outdated quickly IMO, but there might be someone who loves it.

Nit picking here but the closet-sized laundry and inefficient use of space in the walk in closet are not great at that price point.

I agree but finishes aren’t that big a deal and all the tile is good imo. There’s a lot of black hardware but that’s the easiest to change.

Finishes aren’t a big deal?? Lol

They’re not. If you like everything about the house but not the bathroom tile and the door hardware, that’s an easy fix. If you don’t like the open to below family situation or the lack of a garage, that’s not easy.

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Anonymous wrote:3.2 and street parking. Sweet.

I think this is a fair point. There’s no shed or anything. Where do you put bikes, lawn mower, etc? Maybe they have a solution not clear from the photos. Also want to know where the trash cans are and how you get them to the curb.

It says two of off alley spots will be constructed prior to closing.

They would have constructed them already if it was possible. No way you construct a house like that and wait on alley parking. My bet is the alley doesn't go all the way to the house and they are hoping to buy rights from the neighbors. Hence the ridiculous price. I bet the city hasn't agreed to it either.

+100 Developer is trying to lure buyers in by falsely promising parking. House sold in 2020 with no off street parking and continues to have none.

I live next to this house and this is false. Developer (and some of the neighbors to the left of the developer) waiting for city to pave what is known as a “paper alley” by DDOT. This is an alley that is on the map and is a real alley, but was abandoned by the city. There are several of these around Barnaby / CCDC and in most cases people still use them, they are just ragged. This one in particular is almost not usable and many years ago someone put large rocks on it to stop through traffic.

This poster is likely the developer. Legal and paved alley stops one property away from this house. There is no alley behind this house and there never has been. It is DC owned open space with water management feature and a creek/tributary to Rock Creek. Developer knew this when he purchased the house. There are no large rocks blocking the alley - not sure what poster is talking about. There are two city built concrete posts designating the legal end to the alley that have been there for decades.

You’re just flat out wrong here.

https://maps.dcoz.dc.gov/zr16/#l=18&x=-8578549.546493001&y=4718052.774085748&mms=24!21!22!4!2!1!8!11

You can pull up any DC map, here is the zoning map for instance. It absolutely is a DDOT alley and not “DC owned open space”. I know because I live here.

You are clearly the developer. All the neighbors are opposed. Your map is not an accurate detailed map. There is no exit on Worthington. The legal alley ends before this property, there are posts designating the end of the legal alley and the paved road ends at those posts. Property was bought with no off street parking and continues to have no off street parking. There is a creek and tributary to Rock Creek in the open green space behind this block. It will not be paved over.

I’m not sure which fantasy land you live in, but it absolutely 100% is a DDOT alley. I don’t particularly want them to pave it as I walk my dog there all the time and my house is a few houses to the right so I already have parking, so it literally doesn’t effect me (aside from the house selling for 3.3 and maybe boosting my property value). Also, I don’t know how they plan to handle the creek, but if you were actually one of the neighbors you would actually be familiar with the situation. Just because you don’t support it doesn’t mean you should go on the internet and lie about the situation.

Wow, anger issues much? Fantasy land? Really? Actually, also a neighbor and very familiar. !00% of what was said is true. If you walk your dog down there then you know as well. The paved alley ends and there are concrete posts designating the end of the drivable paved alley. DC owns the land, yes, that has never been in dispute. It is a "paper alley", not a real paved alley. DDOT has a water management feature to handle all the alley's water runoff and then it turns into a creek/tributary to Rock Creek and open green space. The house was bought without off street parking, as it has never had off street parking. Part of the reason it was a less expensive property. Developer created an unpermitted temporary construction road over city's (DDOT) land during the construction and was forced to remove it. There are lots of agencies involved and aware of this situation. No lies, all facts.

Nothing you said is false, but you’re missing the point. The key thing that you mentioned is that the alley is a paper alley owned by DDOT — I have spoke to DDOT multiple times about this, as have all the neighbors. The alley WILL be paved to the end of that house’s property line to allow two permeable paver parking spots.. This isn’t up for debate — this is a fact.. It is already on DDOT’s schedule and the preconstruction meeting has already taken place. Furthermore, if any of the homes to the left of the property want the paving to extend, they have that right and they can phone it in to DDOT.

Bottom line — whether you or the few neighbors that are complaining disapprove is irrelevant. It will be done. If you would like we can trade emails and place a bet on whether it gets done or not. Easy money for yours truly.

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Anonymous wrote:Jenn Air appliances and no wall ovens at this price point! It is truly inexplicable. Delusional

I don’t care about that. Not everyone does. I think “high end” appliances are overkill at best and 80% scam.

Ppl who pay $3m want the best

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Anonymous wrote:For $3.3 million, house should have an irrigation system. Hoses strewn all across the lawn for showing appointments. What’s a simple irrigation system $5K-$10K? At this price point a developer should know better. Or at the very least neatly wrap up the houses and put them away for the showings.

I would assume that’s because of sod. You need to water sod, but you definitely don’t need irrigation for established lawn here. We get 40” of rain a year here.

So water the sod and put the hoses away for showings. Lazy!

Or put in an irrigation system and do the right thing when you want to ask $3.3 for a house. No lawn in the DMV survives our summers without water. Nice try.

Omg you are kidding, right? You do not need to water your lawn! Someone is selling you a bill of goods. If you seed your lawn and constantly water it, frequently and not deeply, yes, it will have very shallow roots and be intolerant of any dry periods. But if you have a well established lawn it will almost never, like maybe once or twice every few years, need supplemental water. No one is watering their lawns except for idiots.

What a dumb developer.

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So far in this thread I’ve read:

Nobody cares about about finishes
Nobody cares about private parking
Nobody waters their lawn

What else?

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Anonymous wrote:So far in this thread I’ve read:

Nobody cares about about finishes
Nobody cares about private parking
Nobody waters their lawn

What else?

Lol two of those were me and I’m not the developer. You really don’t have to water your lawn. That’s insane. The finishes are important, but they’re a known, easily changed thing. So if you hate the bathroom tile, you just value the house less the cost of replacing it. That’s not a big deal compared to if there were not enough bathrooms, or the parking/garage issue. It’s just $20k and a few weeks of disruption. It’s one step above wallpaper.

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Anonymous wrote:For $3.3 million, house should have an irrigation system. Hoses strewn all across the lawn for showing appointments. What’s a simple irrigation system $5K-$10K? At this price point a developer should know better. Or at the very least neatly wrap up the houses and put them away for the showings.

I would assume that’s because of sod. You need to water sod, but you definitely don’t need irrigation for established lawn here. We get 40” of rain a year here.

So water the sod and put the hoses away for showings. Lazy!

Or put in an irrigation system and do the right thing when you want to ask $3.3 for a house. No lawn in the DMV survives our summers without water. Nice try.

Omg you are kidding, right? You do not need to water your lawn! Someone is selling you a bill of goods. If you seed your lawn and constantly water it, frequently and not deeply, yes, it will have very shallow roots and be intolerant of any dry periods. But if you have a well established lawn it will almost never, like maybe once or twice every few years, need supplemental water. No one is watering their lawns except for idiots.

What a dumb developer.

Why would the developer argue about this? I’m just an offended gardener.

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, in both the front and back it's a fishbowl with no window coverings. Imagine how many thousands of dollars the new owners will have to spend on window coverings, especially the two story windows in rear.

You can see right into the back of it walking behind it on 32nd Street. The house just around the corner on Worthington and 32nd now has those cheap blinds up everywhere because it was so exposed.

Also, the dining room and upstairs bedroom have mismatched windows, which looks terrible. I do like the backyard, but that's about it.

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Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, in both the front and back it's a fishbowl with no window coverings. Imagine how many thousands of dollars the new owners will have to spend on window coverings, especially the two story windows in rear.

You can see right into the back of it walking behind it on 32nd Street. The house just around the corner on Worthington and 32nd now has those cheap blinds up everywhere because it was so exposed.

Also, the dining room and upstairs bedroom have mismatched windows, which looks terrible. I do like the backyard, but that's about it.

Agreed, the mismatched windows are bizarre and show a poor design aesthetic.

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I’m surprised that no one has raised one of the biggest issues with this house. If you have children it will be nearly impossible to entertain both the adults and the kids. The noise from the children playing in the basement level will echo through the entire property while parents are trying to enjoy a nice glass of wine upstairs. Maybe an empty nester will consider, but if you’ve got little kids this place is an echo chamber of deafening levels. Bad design decision for a neighborhood filled with kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised that no one has raised one of the biggest issues with this house. If you have children it will be nearly impossible to entertain both the adults and the kids. The noise from the children playing in the basement level will echo through the entire property while parents are trying to enjoy a nice glass of wine upstairs. Maybe an empty nester will consider, but if you’ve got little kids this place is an echo chamber of deafening levels. Bad design decision for a neighborhood filled with kids.

Have heard this from multiple people, the loft is a deal breaker for young families.