Cogat and NNAt 2021 Scores Sharing thread

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Anonymous wrote:Are these scores of 2nd grade students. My 3rd grader got 132 in cogat. Is there a different cutoff score for a third grader. His age score is 9.

There is no pool for 3rd graders.

Any idea that how are they assessed for AAP?

You have to parent refer

Thanks. So in my DC's letter, the description of the score says that DC needs challenging and advanced materials to study in 7 different points. Is this description also given in your 2nd grader letter from FCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 160
COGAT 142

No pool mail yet. Anybody with similar scores in pool?
What was the COGAT cutoff last year?

Okay, that's just crazy. Something is going on.

I wonder if some schools individually opted not to have a pool at all? Maybe the PP whose AART said there wasn't a pool this year was correct (for that specific school)? No idea why they would do something like that but am starting to wonder...

May be Madison pyramid that particular school has a cogat composite of 143. I saw another poster had 142 Madison pyramid and was in pool. Yours must be a high SES school than that poster, both schools in Madison pyramid though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Got response from AART. The new FCPS policy allows a different standard on a school by school basis and AART maintains each school's inpool cutoff was set by central office and local school not privy to the cutoff.

For real.

Notice 2401 did actually say the central office determined the pool…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 160
COGAT 142

No pool mail yet. Anybody with similar scores in pool?
What was the COGAT cutoff last year?

Okay, that's just crazy. Something is going on.

I wonder if some schools individually opted not to have a pool at all? Maybe the PP whose AART said there wasn't a pool this year was correct (for that specific school)? No idea why they would do something like that but am starting to wonder...

May be Madison pyramid that particular school has a cogat composite of 143. I saw another poster had 142 Madison pyramid and was in pool. Yours must be a high SES school than that poster, both schools in Madison pyramid though.

The PP who said central office figured out the pool is corroborated by FCPS docs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 160
COGAT 142

No pool mail yet. Anybody with similar scores in pool?
What was the COGAT cutoff last year?

Okay, that's just crazy. Something is going on.

I wonder if some schools individually opted not to have a pool at all? Maybe the PP whose AART said there wasn't a pool this year was correct (for that specific school)? No idea why they would do something like that but am starting to wonder...

May be Madison pyramid that particular school has a cogat composite of 143. I saw another poster had 142 Madison pyramid and was in pool. Yours must be a high SES school than that poster, both schools in Madison pyramid though.

But the NNAT was 160, which is the highest possible score. Are they not using the NNAT to determine in-pool this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 160.
CoGAT 142

Madison pyramid.

No pool mail yet.
Anybody with similar scores in pool?

Is your child 2nd grader? I mean...this just sounds crazy.

[Anonymous]

NNAT was not considered even in the past. Cogat is the determining test since it tests verbal and math also. My DC also has very strong NV skills but unfortunately NNAT is not valuable, the independent consultant recommended to entirely remove this from testing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2nd grader. In pool. West Springfield HS pyramid

NNAT 128

CogAT
Composite 132, Verbal 122, Quant 134, NV 127

Did you get scores via email, mail or SIS?
I am in the same pyramid and have heard nothing.

We received it in the mail today. Hopefully you’ll get it in the next day or two!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT was not considered even in the past. Cogat is the determining test since it tests verbal and math also. My DC also has very strong NV skills but unfortunately NNAT is not valuable, the independent consultant recommended to entirely remove this from testing.

Perhaps not weighted heavily, but NNAT was still used in past years to determine in-pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 160.
CoGAT 142

Madison pyramid.

No pool mail yet.
Anybody with similar scores in pool?

Is your child 2nd grader? I mean...this just sounds crazy.

Yes, those are high scores. 160 and 142, combined means a child is above 99.6 percentile. The process has no transparency and it ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT was not considered even in the past. Cogat is the determining test since it tests verbal and math also. My DC also has very strong NV skills but unfortunately NNAT is not valuable, the independent consultant recommended to entirely remove this from testing.

NNAT was used to determine who was in-pool.

[Anonymous]

From this year, only cogat is being considered. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get ride of NNAT soon.

[Anonymous]

Cogat 145
In pool
McLean pyramid

[Anonymous]

Cogat 131
McLean pyramid
Of course Not in pool

[Anonymous]

Oakton pyramid not in pool
NNAT 133
CogAT 136