Why do getting into elite universities even matter at this point?

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Anonymous wrote:Elite universities are hardly the big thing they used to be.

That’s what everybody who didn’t attend one thinks. But how exactly would you know?

Don't you work with people from all different colleges? I do.

Same. I think its certain people who went to elite schools who have such a narrow view they hardly realize how well everyone else is doing too. they name their school and never ask where the woman they report to went (deep down, they don't want to know).

And that has always been the case. Unless by "used to be" you mean the 1700s.

Some of the women with low education who rose to the top are of different breed. You don’t really want to go there. It’s not what school the woman they report to went. It’s how she got there.

Low education if not an elite school? And what are you implying? Still stuck in the days when you thought women had to sleep their way to the top? Good like in life with that attitude. I guess I should have used a hypothetical male boss to make you feel less threatened.

It works both ways. Let’s not pretend it doesn’t happen in 2021 - both ways. Women are just as ambitious, conniving, and sneaky as men. Why do you assume they all live in monasteries like nuns?

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I think part of the ability to advance even in the engineering and CS fields depends on one’s ability to think creatively and critically and present ideas persuasively, both verbally and in writing. The top schools really focus on these skills so a graduate may have an advantage there. Of course, you can also develop those skills at a state school if you take the right classes. I’m not sure you can develop them at a coding academy but of course a motivated student can find ways to learn almost any skill.

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Anonymous wrote:Elite universities are hardly the big thing they used to be.

That’s what everybody who didn’t attend one thinks. But how exactly would you know?

As someone who has two ivy degrees and one state school degree, there is virtually no difference between attending a public school ranked 80th and a private school ranked 5th for MOST majors.

Says a sample size of #1.

We need to talk to successful people, not the disgruntled ones.

I make 300k per year and work about 10 hours per week, which in my mind is successful. I also didn't pay a dime for my education. Doesn't change my opinion on the value of elite schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Elite universities are hardly the big thing they used to be.

That’s what everybody who didn’t attend one thinks. But how exactly would you know?

As someone who has two ivy degrees and one state school degree, there is virtually no difference between attending a public school ranked 80th and a private school ranked 5th for MOST majors.

Says a sample size of #1.

We need to talk to successful people, not the disgruntled ones.

I make 300k per year and work about 10 hours per week, which in my mind is successful. I also didn't pay a dime for my education. Doesn't change my opinion on the value of elite schools.

Then you probably own your own business. But, that's not normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I think part of the ability to advance even in the engineering and CS fields depends on one’s ability to think creatively and critically and present ideas persuasively, both verbally and in writing. The top schools really focus on these skills so a graduate may have an advantage there. Of course, you can also develop those skills at a state school if you take the right classes. I’m not sure you can develop them at a coding academy but of course a motivated student can find ways to learn almost any skill.

You can get good or bad professors at any school so your post makes no sense. No good employer is going to hire someone is a good well paying position over a coding academy. At best you can do tech support. UMD, for example is a really well regarded school. It has far better programs for CS than many elite schools. Its silly to go to Harvard for CD over UMD for cost and program.

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Anonymous wrote:Elite universities are hardly the big thing they used to be.

That’s what everybody who didn’t attend one thinks. But how exactly would you know?

As someone who has two ivy degrees and one state school degree, there is virtually no difference between attending a public school ranked 80th and a private school ranked 5th for MOST majors.

Says a sample size of #1.

We need to talk to successful people, not the disgruntled ones.

I make 300k per year and work about 10 hours per week, which in my mind is successful. I also didn't pay a dime for my education. Doesn't change my opinion on the value of elite schools.

That’s pretty good with ivy degrees, about $560 per hour.

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I am wondering what is the attrition rate for CS in public universities and in elite universities. Half of the UCSD students fail calculus 1, meaning they can’t go beyond in whatever discipline that requires more than Calculus 1.

I am speculating that there may be more academic support in elite schools. In SLACs, there’s definitely more academic support for students. I am not sure about elite private universities, although I speculate their support is somewhere between public universities and SLACs.

If by choosing elite schools, a student increases his or her chance of a STEM major, it may be worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:The value of going to college is about how to think critically and broaden your views. You don’t need to get a BS to learn programming, just like a carpenter doesn’t need to go to Stanford to figure out how to hammer a nail.

This exactly. I felt that college and grad school helped me develop into who I am. It is not so much about specific skills. College helped my writing and analytical skills tremendously. Grad school at an Ivy - I was around some amazing people and that was an irreplaceable experience to me. Life is about so much more than $$. And I come from a middle class family. I met my husband in grad school and we are a great match intellectually and emotionally.

And my cohort at the University of Washington at Seattle was absolutely amazing. They were active professionals - 1/3 of my class were already MDs. I learned invaluable real world experience from my cohort in grad school. And it was not an ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:The value of going to college is about how to think critically and broaden your views. You don’t need to get a BS to learn programming, just like a carpenter doesn’t need to go to Stanford to figure out how to hammer a nail.

This exactly. I felt that college and grad school helped me develop into who I am. It is not so much about specific skills. College helped my writing and analytical skills tremendously. Grad school at an Ivy - I was around some amazing people and that was an irreplaceable experience to me. Life is about so much more than $$. And I come from a middle class family. I met my husband in grad school and we are a great match intellectually and emotionally.

And my cohort at the University of Washington at Seattle was absolutely amazing. They were active professionals - 1/3 of my class were already MDs. I learned invaluable real world experience from my cohort in grad school. And it was not an ivy.

OP’s point is why be so snob from a no name school like u of Washington when you could have met equally amazing people from all walks of life through CC or boot camps. Unless you were trying to hook up with an MD.