MCCPTA vs. school PTAs

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Anonymous wrote:Your school PTA is about local issues (need more outside time at recess, teachers need more manipulatives, community/school-wide events such as bingo, fall festival, book fair, spring party, whatever).

MCCPTA is supposed to be about county-wide issues facing all students, but they've been taken over during the past few years by the Silver Spring Takoma Park crazies. They only care about East County issues and nothing else. And those who matter no longer respect their opinion.

The Black and Brown Coalition has more respect County-wide, so if your interested in all children, get involved with this group, not MCCPTA.

They don't care about the east county issues either. They only care about their chosen things.

I know those SS/TKPK people are always going on about these crazy things like equity and educating all children! It's crazy because we really only care about our local W schools.

Why is it that these white people think they know better what Black and Brown kids need than actual Black and Brown people? That paternalistic view is the problem and its actually racist, but they don't understand that because they only have the best intentions even if they are intent on not listening to Black and Brown people.

We have three black woman and one Latino heritage lady sitting on BOE, and Black and Brown kids are still not being taken care of? The honest truth is nobody takes the MCCPTA advocacy seriously anyways.

Except that's what is leading to actual change. The BOE is not immune to structural racism. It's a system.

It's worse than that. It's run by progressives who are white-savior racists.

Do the Koch's pay min wage for the astroturf? Asking for a friend.

MCCPTA is primarily white. MCCPTA supports policies like restorative justice, busing, and removing SROs because they don't believe black people are capable of achieving academic success without them. This makes them white saviors..What does any of what I said have to do with the Koch's?

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Anonymous wrote:This is all disappointing to hear. I don't think anyone here knows what goes on in MCCPTA. MCCPTA is involved in a host of issues to make school a better place for all MCPS children and families. These are extremely dedicated parents who fight HARD to advocate. Nothing is perfect but here are some of the initiatives...

Outdoor lunches during Covid--MCCPTA
Covid testing in schools--MCCPTA
Restorative Justice--MCCPTA
Restraint and Seclusion (against)--MCCPTA
Removing SROs--MCCPTA
Equitable practices for identifying GT/magnet students--MCCPTA
Special education IEP compliance--MCCPTA
Water and air testing for all schools--MCCPTA
Improving communications from MCPS to parents--MCCPTA
Advocacy for a new superintendent search--MCCPTA
On and on...

Don't be ungrateful. If you want to get involved to help make a difference, volunteers are wanted.

Are you kidding? LOL. Are you trying to turn parents off from the PTA? Not sure if you are being sarcastic.

Restorative Justice? No thank you. I have seen what the results of that has been in my kids ES and MS.

Removing SROs? Despite the fact that principals wanted them to stay? And despite the fact that our SRO is amazing. No thanks.

Equitable practices for GT? Not on your life has this been a good thing.

Yeah, that is EXACTLY why I will not be giving a penny to either school’s PTA ever again. I will donate to classrooms and to our Band teacher. But otherwise, the PTA is completely opposite of what I would like to see happening.

Which is totally fine, and it can advocate for what it’s members want. Just pointing out that your ‘selling points’ of PTA advocacy might not appeal to all parents.

Really? I agree with the PP. The stuff your posting seems kind of crazy fringe. If you want to help get involved otherwise, stay out of the way. kthx.

Thank you. Things like restorative justice, removing SROs, and being obsessed with equity over excellence are fringe. We need to elect reasonable people to the BOE who will hire reasonable administrators who will do away with this kind of nonsense.

I honestly don't believe these people posting this right wing propaganda even live here. They're probably paid astroturfers pushing the usual resentments and trying to sew animosity and discontent.

I'm the PP and I'm a liberal Democrat who lives near Churchill. The things I mentioned are so far left, they're off the chart.

Maybe, but it’s what the PTA and parents and voters support in Montgomery County. This is a far left county.

I don't believe they're a liberal democrat or that they live in Montgomery County for an instant.

Are you under the impression that all Democrats are woke?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your school PTA is about local issues (need more outside time at recess, teachers need more manipulatives, community/school-wide events such as bingo, fall festival, book fair, spring party, whatever).

MCCPTA is supposed to be about county-wide issues facing all students, but they've been taken over during the past few years by the Silver Spring Takoma Park crazies. They only care about East County issues and nothing else. And those who matter no longer respect their opinion.

The Black and Brown Coalition has more respect County-wide, so if your interested in all children, get involved with this group, not MCCPTA.

They don't care about the east county issues either. They only care about their chosen things.

I know those SS/TKPK people are always going on about these crazy things like equity and educating all children! It's crazy because we really only care about our local W schools.

Why is it that these white people think they know better what Black and Brown kids need than actual Black and Brown people? That paternalistic view is the problem and its actually racist, but they don't understand that because they only have the best intentions even if they are intent on not listening to Black and Brown people.

We have three black woman and one Latino heritage lady sitting on BOE, and Black and Brown kids are still not being taken care of? The honest truth is nobody takes the MCCPTA advocacy seriously anyways.

Nice way to try to change the topic. We are talking about the MCCPTA acting as gatekeepers and not listening to Black and Brown families and allowing them full participation. Not whether the BOE does or does not listen to Black and Brown families.

Some of the higher up MCCPTA don't even have kids in the school system. They need to get out and let others who are impacted by MCPS have a chance. Their agenda is a joke.

[Anonymous]

You need to be a PTA member but you don't need to be on your PTA Board to volunteer for MCCPTA. The focus is more on district-wide advocacy. The delegates and cluster coordinators have broader involvement in the MCCPTA, but if you are interested in getting involved with a specific committee, you can reach out directly to the Committee Chair. ​https://www.mccpta.org/mccpta-leaders.html The Committees each work differently, so some are more open to new members. Some Committees actively recruit school-level liaisons, like the Gifted Education Committee, Special Education Committee, and Restorative Justice Practices Committee. The time commitment is minimal for those positions and there are many open slots at the schools (many PTAs never fill the liaison positions). There's quite a bit of misinformation on here about what MCCPTA has been advocating for, but don't take the word of an anonymous stranger - check out the website and advocacy positions! https://www.mccpta.org/advocacy.html If you don't like the direction MCCPTA is taking, the best thing to do is to get involved!

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Anonymous wrote:Your school PTA is about local issues (need more outside time at recess, teachers need more manipulatives, community/school-wide events such as bingo, fall festival, book fair, spring party, whatever).

MCCPTA is supposed to be about county-wide issues facing all students, but they've been taken over during the past few years by the Silver Spring Takoma Park crazies. They only care about East County issues and nothing else. And those who matter no longer respect their opinion.

The Black and Brown Coalition has more respect County-wide, so if your interested in all children, get involved with this group, not MCCPTA.

They don't care about the east county issues either. They only care about their chosen things.

I know those SS/TKPK people are always going on about these crazy things like equity and educating all children! It's crazy because we really only care about our local W schools.

Why is it that these white people think they know better what Black and Brown kids need than actual Black and Brown people? That paternalistic view is the problem and its actually racist, but they don't understand that because they only have the best intentions even if they are intent on not listening to Black and Brown people.

We have three black woman and one Latino heritage lady sitting on BOE, and Black and Brown kids are still not being taken care of? The honest truth is nobody takes the MCCPTA advocacy seriously anyways.

Except that's what is leading to actual change. The BOE is not immune to structural racism. It's a system.

It's worse than that. It's run by progressives who are white-savior racists.

Do the Koch's pay min wage for the astroturf? Asking for a friend.

MCCPTA is primarily white. MCCPTA supports policies like restorative justice, busing, and removing SROs because they don't believe black people are capable of achieving academic success without them. This makes them white saviors..What does any of what I said have to do with the Koch's? [/quote

from my perspective, it's the "nice whyt ladies" who have been recklessly pushing for reopening, and now doing away with things like outdoor lunch are the ones with the most issues with MCCPTA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all disappointing to hear. I don't think anyone here knows what goes on in MCCPTA. MCCPTA is involved in a host of issues to make school a better place for all MCPS children and families. These are extremely dedicated parents who fight HARD to advocate. Nothing is perfect but here are some of the initiatives...

Outdoor lunches during Covid--MCCPTA
Covid testing in schools--MCCPTA
Restorative Justice--MCCPTA
Restraint and Seclusion (against)--MCCPTA
Removing SROs--MCCPTA
Equitable practices for identifying GT/magnet students--MCCPTA
Special education IEP compliance--MCCPTA
Water and air testing for all schools--MCCPTA
Improving communications from MCPS to parents--MCCPTA
Advocacy for a new superintendent search--MCCPTA
On and on...

Don't be ungrateful. If you want to get involved to help make a difference, volunteers are wanted.

Are you kidding? LOL. Are you trying to turn parents off from the PTA? Not sure if you are being sarcastic.

Restorative Justice? No thank you. I have seen what the results of that has been in my kids ES and MS.

Removing SROs? Despite the fact that principals wanted them to stay? And despite the fact that our SRO is amazing. No thanks.

Equitable practices for GT? Not on your life has this been a good thing.

Yeah, that is EXACTLY why I will not be giving a penny to either school’s PTA ever again. I will donate to classrooms and to our Band teacher. But otherwise, the PTA is completely opposite of what I would like to see happening.

Which is totally fine, and it can advocate for what it’s members want. Just pointing out that your ‘selling points’ of PTA advocacy might not appeal to all parents.

Really? I agree with the PP. The stuff your posting seems kind of crazy fringe. If you want to help get involved otherwise, stay out of the way. kthx.

Thank you. Things like restorative justice, removing SROs, and being obsessed with equity over excellence are fringe. We need to elect reasonable people to the BOE who will hire reasonable administrators who will do away with this kind of nonsense.

I honestly don't believe these people posting this right wing propaganda even live here. They're probably paid astroturfers pushing the usual resentments and trying to sew animosity and discontent.

I'm the PP and I'm a liberal Democrat who lives near Churchill. The things I mentioned are so far left, they're off the chart.

Maybe, but it’s what the PTA and parents and voters support in Montgomery County. This is a far left county.

I don't believe they're a liberal democrat or that they live in Montgomery County for an instant.

Are you under the impression that all Democrats are woke?

No, but I do think people who use the phrase woke to dismiss others with whom they disagree aren't very bright.

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I don't believe they're a liberal democrat or that they live in Montgomery County for an instant.

Are you under the impression that all Democrats are woke?

No, but I do think people who use the phrase woke to dismiss others with whom they disagree aren't very bright.

Clearly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to be a PTA member but you don't need to be on your PTA Board to volunteer for MCCPTA. The focus is more on district-wide advocacy. The delegates and cluster coordinators have broader involvement in the MCCPTA, but if you are interested in getting involved with a specific committee, you can reach out directly to the Committee Chair. ​https://www.mccpta.org/mccpta-leaders.html The Committees each work differently, so some are more open to new members. Some Committees actively recruit school-level liaisons, like the Gifted Education Committee, Special Education Committee, and Restorative Justice Practices Committee. The time commitment is minimal for those positions and there are many open slots at the schools (many PTAs never fill the liaison positions). There's quite a bit of misinformation on here about what MCCPTA has been advocating for, but don't take the word of an anonymous stranger - check out the website and advocacy positions! https://www.mccpta.org/advocacy.html If you don't like the direction MCCPTA is taking, the best thing to do is to get involved!

Is there someone at MCCPTA that keeps that site current? If so, can you wake them up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all disappointing to hear. I don't think anyone here knows what goes on in MCCPTA. MCCPTA is involved in a host of issues to make school a better place for all MCPS children and families. These are extremely dedicated parents who fight HARD to advocate. Nothing is perfect but here are some of the initiatives...

Outdoor lunches during Covid--MCCPTA
Covid testing in schools--MCCPTA
Restorative Justice--MCCPTA
Restraint and Seclusion (against)--MCCPTA
Removing SROs--MCCPTA
Equitable practices for identifying GT/magnet students--MCCPTA
Special education IEP compliance--MCCPTA
Water and air testing for all schools--MCCPTA
Improving communications from MCPS to parents--MCCPTA
Advocacy for a new superintendent search--MCCPTA
On and on...

Don't be ungrateful. If you want to get involved to help make a difference, volunteers are wanted.

Are you kidding? LOL. Are you trying to turn parents off from the PTA? Not sure if you are being sarcastic.

Restorative Justice? No thank you. I have seen what the results of that has been in my kids ES and MS.

Removing SROs? Despite the fact that principals wanted them to stay? And despite the fact that our SRO is amazing. No thanks.

Equitable practices for GT? Not on your life has this been a good thing.

Yeah, that is EXACTLY why I will not be giving a penny to either school’s PTA ever again. I will donate to classrooms and to our Band teacher. But otherwise, the PTA is completely opposite of what I would like to see happening.

Which is totally fine, and it can advocate for what it’s members want. Just pointing out that your ‘selling points’ of PTA advocacy might not appeal to all parents.

Really? I agree with the PP. The stuff your posting seems kind of crazy fringe. If you want to help get involved otherwise, stay out of the way. kthx.

Thank you. Things like restorative justice, removing SROs, and being obsessed with equity over excellence are fringe. We need to elect reasonable people to the BOE who will hire reasonable administrators who will do away with this kind of nonsense.

I honestly don't believe these people posting this right wing propaganda even live here. They're probably paid astroturfers pushing the usual resentments and trying to sew animosity and discontent.

I'm the PP and I'm a liberal Democrat who lives near Churchill. The things I mentioned are so far left, they're off the chart.

Maybe, but it’s what the PTA and parents and voters support in Montgomery County. This is a far left county.

I don't believe they're a liberal democrat or that they live in Montgomery County for an instant.

Are you under the impression that all Democrats are woke?

No, but I do think people who use the phrase woke to dismiss others with whom they disagree aren't very bright.

What's wrong with using "woke?" I mean, wokes came up with the word themselves. And I only use woke to describe people who espouse woke ideas. I would not call a Trumoer woke even though I disagree with most of their ideas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your school PTA is about local issues (need more outside time at recess, teachers need more manipulatives, community/school-wide events such as bingo, fall festival, book fair, spring party, whatever).

MCCPTA is supposed to be about county-wide issues facing all students, but they've been taken over during the past few years by the Silver Spring Takoma Park crazies. They only care about East County issues and nothing else. And those who matter no longer respect their opinion.

The Black and Brown Coalition has more respect County-wide, so if your interested in all children, get involved with this group, not MCCPTA.

They don't care about the east county issues either. They only care about their chosen things.

I know those SS/TKPK people are always going on about these crazy things like equity and educating all children! It's crazy because we really only care about our local W schools.

Why is it that these white people think they know better what Black and Brown kids need than actual Black and Brown people? That paternalistic view is the problem and its actually racist, but they don't understand that because they only have the best intentions even if they are intent on not listening to Black and Brown people.

We have three black woman and one Latino heritage lady sitting on BOE, and Black and Brown kids are still not being taken care of? The honest truth is nobody takes the MCCPTA advocacy seriously anyways.

Except that's what is leading to actual change. The BOE is not immune to structural racism. It's a system.

It's worse than that. It's run by progressives who are white-savior racists.

Do the Koch's pay min wage for the astroturf? Asking for a friend.

MCCPTA is primarily white. MCCPTA supports policies like restorative justice, busing, and removing SROs because they don't believe black people are capable of achieving academic success without them. This makes them white saviors..What does any of what I said have to do with the Koch's?

from my perspective, it's the "nice whyt ladies" who have been recklessly pushing for reopening, and now doing away with things like outdoor lunch are the ones with the most issues with MCCPTA.

What's this about outdoor lunches going away?

[Anonymous]

don't think there is even one officeR from SS/TP on MCCPTA

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Anonymous wrote:Your school PTA is about local issues (need more outside time at recess, teachers need more manipulatives, community/school-wide events such as bingo, fall festival, book fair, spring party, whatever).

MCCPTA is supposed to be about county-wide issues facing all students, but they've been taken over during the past few years by the Silver Spring Takoma Park crazies. They only care about East County issues and nothing else. And those who matter no longer respect their opinion.

The Black and Brown Coalition has more respect County-wide, so if your interested in all children, get involved with this group, not MCCPTA.

Is it because they are the only ones participating? Couldn’t delegates from other parts of the county form committees on issues they are interested in? I’m assuming these committees are restricted to delegates but I could be wrong about that.

This is a false narrative often pushed on this forum. The leadership of MCCPTA has not been "taken over" by SS/TP residents. It is not even mostly comprised of SS/TP residents. And if people don't like how a volunteer organization is run, they should get involved themselves and work to make changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to be a PTA member but you don't need to be on your PTA Board to volunteer for MCCPTA. The focus is more on district-wide advocacy. The delegates and cluster coordinators have broader involvement in the MCCPTA, but if you are interested in getting involved with a specific committee, you can reach out directly to the Committee Chair. ​https://www.mccpta.org/mccpta-leaders.html The Committees each work differently, so some are more open to new members. Some Committees actively recruit school-level liaisons, like the Gifted Education Committee, Special Education Committee, and Restorative Justice Practices Committee. The time commitment is minimal for those positions and there are many open slots at the schools (many PTAs never fill the liaison positions). There's quite a bit of misinformation on here about what MCCPTA has been advocating for, but don't take the word of an anonymous stranger - check out the website and advocacy positions! https://www.mccpta.org/advocacy.html If you don't like the direction MCCPTA is taking, the best thing to do is to get involved!

Is there someone at MCCPTA that keeps that site current? If so, can you wake them up?

Maybe listen to what people are saying, especially about MCCPTA and the individual PTA's not being welcoming to members and not allowing ideas and involvement. Our PTA is pathetic and the little money we have is wasted. Accountability would be nice.