I want to believe Hillary will be bad for me! Help me!

[Anonymous]

I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

[Anonymous]

Exactly how does a pathological liar "serve the people"?

[Anonymous]

The Hillary of emails seems more moderate, but them I'm told that's actually Russian operatives. The Hillary I've seen in action is corrupt.

For me, it's about the issues - and the way Russia and Iran are acting now? I'm good with strength.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

[Anonymous]

Why are you asking an anonymous forum with paid Trump operatives in it?

Yes, Hillary will be better, obviously. She can point to Syria on a map, had a decent diplomatic relationship with Russia, knows how a bill becomes a law, etc.

I don't think Trump knows how to tie his own shoes. He's a clear danger to our democracy, and it's no exaggeration. If you want a liar, you can look up any number of videos of him contradicting himself and lying and saying he never said something that he indeed said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

OP here. I hear you. She has a lifestyle to maintain, and her business that "puts food on the table", "brings home the bacon", whatever metaphor you want......is politics. But this is the essence of my dilemma: although she uses Washington politics to her benefit, I don't think that directly impacts me, the "little guy" more negatively than her policies benefit me. I weigh the pros and cons and the cons just don't trump (no pun intended) the pros in this election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

OP here. I hear you. She has a lifestyle to maintain, and her business that "puts food on the table", "brings home the bacon", whatever metaphor you want......is politics. But this is the essence of my dilemma: although she uses Washington politics to her benefit, I don't think that directly impacts me, the "little guy" more negatively than her policies benefit me. I weigh the pros and cons and the cons just don't trump (no pun intended) the pros in this election.

Then vote for whoever you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly how does a pathological liar "serve the people"?

Saying that till your blue in the face will not make it true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

To deliver what? Pro-wall st policies? What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

Sure they would. Even George W. Bush gets $150,000 for a speech and he can't deliver a bucket of spit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

To deliver what? Pro-wall st policies? What?

If you live in a bubble, I guess you wouldn't know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

Bill was making good money in retirement.