I want to believe Hillary will be bad for me! Help me!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

Bill was making good money in retirement.

And Billary delivered.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

Sure they would. Even George W. Bush gets $150,000 for a speech and he can't deliver a bucket of spit.

That'd be chump change for Hillary.
After all, she delivers.. BIG time.

[Anonymous]

I agree with you, OP, on all points, except the "what are you missing" part.

You're not missing anything.
Your arguments are well reasoned.
Some people are just dumb, and others are terribly misinformed. That's all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

Power, that's all she wants. Money has nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

?

She has millions already. She will continue to make millions after her term is up (and she'll only go one term). Imagine the business connections she will make in four years. It's all about Hillary and her connections.

Do you somehow think she's a true servant of the people? lol! delusional fool

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

Sure they would. Even George W. Bush gets $150,000 for a speech and he can't deliver a bucket of spit.

That'd be chump change for Hillary.
After all, she delivers.. BIG time.

She gets about $200,000 for a speech, so if George Bush gets $150,000 for nothing, she is selling her soul for just an extra $50,000? And what does Ben Bernanke offer for $400,000? A tour of his old office?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

Power, that's all she wants. Money has nothing to do with it.

As opposed to everyone else who ran for President who did it just to live in a big old house?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

?

She has millions already. She will continue to make millions after her term is up (and she'll only go one term). Imagine the business connections she will make in four years. It's all about Hillary and her connections.

Do you somehow think she's a true servant of the people? lol! delusional fool

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

?

She has millions already. She will continue to make millions after her term is up (and she'll only go one term). Imagine the business connections she will make in four years. It's all about Hillary and her connections.

Do you somehow think she's a true servant of the people? lol! delusional fool

Exactly. She's already making millions and she can keep on making millions the same way, but at an age when most people retire, she is going to give up those millions for the highest stress job in the world just so she start marking the same millions again 4 years later?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

Different poster here. If she were serving herself, she would just give high-priced speeches for the rest of her life. Instead, she is going for a much more difficult job at much lower salary.

No one would pay would pay for her high-priced speeches if she doesn't have the power to deliver. Duh.

Sure they would. Even George W. Bush gets $150,000 for a speech and he can't deliver a bucket of spit.

That'd be chump change for Hillary.
After all, she delivers.. BIG time.

She gets about $200,000 for a speech, so if George Bush gets $150,000 for nothing, she is selling her soul for just an extra $50,000? And what does Ben Bernanke offer for $400,000? A tour of his old office?

+1 There are over 130 American celebrities such as Larry the Cable Guy who get paid $200,000 or more to give a speech. (https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/searchfee.php?fee=6) Trying to make Hillary's paid speeches look like bribery was the most dishonest thing that Bernie's campaign did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to believe Hillary will be bad for me! Help me

Disingenuous and 100% nonsense.

[Anonymous]

If you don't like freedom, want to be at high risk of rape by a "refugee", want to be living in a third world country in poverty and possibly be nuked, vote for Hillary.

[takoma]

I look at Hillary and think of other manipulative, power-hungry presidents we've had (Johnson & Nixon, for example). I look at Trump and think of other authoritarian demagogues (like Mussolini, say). I'll take Hillary!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

To be honest, I'm a little worried for you in terms of your sense of judgment or ability to draw conclusions. It seems like most everything you say would suggest a certain candidate, but somehow you're still confused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the sort of person who enjoys hearing the perspective of those who disagree with me. I think it's a way of keeping myself grounded-- of not living in a bubble. I want to feel as though I've left no stone unturned when making a decision.

Personally, I feel that Hillary is a political animal. She eats, sleeps, and breathes Washinton politics. She is calculated, mechanical, and everything she does is premeditated. She has spent so long in the political spotlight that she probably can't remember what it is to be candid. But, I think she's intelligent, driven, "a fighter" (to quote her opponent), and when you look at her history of public service, she wants to serve the people. She is well-versed in presidential politics, and I choose to view that as a good thing: there won't be any learning curve for her figure out some way, any way, to try to work WITH the other party. In short, while I don't feel much connection to her, I feel her drawbacks (DC insider who rubs elbows with big-shots, using a personal server to evade scrutiny, being married to an unfaithful two-term pres...) won't impact me, the "little guy", in an adverse way. On the other hand, an untested, former reality star who made his mark in real estate, casinos, and branding--with his own questionable personality quirks--kind of embarrasses me. Oddly enough, I feel that had greater potential to impact my life.

What am I not seeing?

What on earth drives you to this conclusion? She wants to serve only herself, OP.

+1. If she wanted to serve the people - the country - she never would have set up an unsecured server and sent all email, including classified, through it and thereby place the nation's secrets at risk. She did it to hide her wrongdoings, which if discovered would keep her from the presidency. She was and is so determined for the power that she had her server bleached after it was subpoened - a felony. (When asked if she ordered the destruction of evidence, she said "I don't recall.")