Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

What a bunch of bumbling idiots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

[Anonymous]

If they are not super lopsided people know about split feeders when they move - they are not a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

Are you in the Madison/Marshall Pyramid, Langley/McLean Pyramid, or West Potomac/Mount Vernon Pyramid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

Are you in the Madison/Marshall Pyramid, Langley/McLean Pyramid, or West Potomac/Mount Vernon Pyramid?

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Just wondering which high school is getting rezoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

Are you in the Madison/Marshall Pyramid, Langley/McLean Pyramid, or West Potomac/Mount Vernon Pyramid?

DP. Part of Justice is also getting rezoned to Falls Church. That would eliminate the split feeder at Mason Crest. But without transportation there would be kids at an IB school moved into an AP school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

Are you in the Madison/Marshall Pyramid, Langley/McLean Pyramid, or West Potomac/Mount Vernon Pyramid?

DP. Part of Justice is also getting rezoned to Falls Church. That would eliminate the split feeder at Mason Crest. But without transportation there would be kids at an IB school moved into an AP school.

FCPS really needs to eliminate IB from all of its high schools except maybe Robinson and 1 other magnet in the middle of the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of bumbling idiots.

I can’t wait for the next review when they send all the AAP kids back to their base schools. My prediction based on this review is that Carson will inexplicably remain the only AAP center. And Thoreau will operate with 1600 students because they won’t be allowed to move anyone back to Kilmer and they’ll be too afraid to move anyone else out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

Are you in the Madison/Marshall Pyramid, Langley/McLean Pyramid, or West Potomac/Mount Vernon Pyramid?

DP. Part of Justice is also getting rezoned to Falls Church. That would eliminate the split feeder at Mason Crest. But without transportation there would be kids at an IB school moved into an AP school.

FCPS really needs to eliminate IB from all of its high schools except maybe Robinson and 1 other magnet in the middle of the county.

At the public hearing, IB at Justice was surprisingly popular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total number of students impacted is now down to a little under 1,700. Quite a comprehensive review!

Maybe they can consider offering transportation now.

Where are you finding the new numbers?

It is less than 1% of FCPS students.

Did they really need to create a 2 year half a million+ dollar debaucle to move less than 1700 students?

This could have been handled by the old policy 8130 that focused solely on capacity and emergency rezoning for things like flooded schools from pipes bursting and natural disasters.

What sucks is for us it is not a necessary move and now our high school children are forced if we don't provide them transportation to change high schools so the elementary students can stay with ALL their classmates through high school.

Which high school is getting rezoned?

Are you in the Madison/Marshall Pyramid, Langley/McLean Pyramid, or West Potomac/Mount Vernon Pyramid?

DP. Part of Justice is also getting rezoned to Falls Church. That would eliminate the split feeder at Mason Crest. But without transportation there would be kids at an IB school moved into an AP school.

FCPS really needs to eliminate IB from all of its high schools except maybe Robinson and 1 other magnet in the middle of the county.

At the public hearing, IB at Justice was surprisingly popular.

With who? The parents who like having smaller classes because the majority of the kids at the school take maybe 1 IB class? I can see the parents of kids that take some HL IB classes at Justice or lewis or Mt. Vernon liking the program because the classes are probably smaller . I know one SLHS poster commented in an IB thread that they liked it because their kid was getting a private school education at a massive public school. There just are not that many kids in those HL classes. The kids and parents in probably love it for just that reason.

The parents of the kids who don’t take IB classes don’t care if it is AP or IB because they are not involved in their kids education and their kid isn’t taking a ton of those classes either way. The families that want IB pupil place out to AP schools. So yeah, the parents of the IB kids at the school love it. The remaining families are indifferent and the parents who want AP vote with their feet, which is ignored by everyone.

[Anonymous]

My heart breaks for the 859 elementary students, 364 middle school students, and 474 high school students who are being forced to move as part of this messed up review.

I hope that they find happiness after their mental health has been sacrificed on the altar of Sandy Anderdon’s misguided comprehensive review, and may we have the wisdom to shutdown the ongoing five-year reviews before they can do further harm to thousands and tens of thousands of additional students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My heart breaks for the 859 elementary students, 364 middle school students, and 474 high school students who are being forced to move as part of this messed up review.

I hope that they find happiness after their mental health has been sacrificed on the altar of Sandy Anderdon’s misguided comprehensive review, and may we have the wisdom to shutdown the ongoing five-year reviews before they can do further harm to thousands and tens of thousands of additional students.

I feel upset because the process was a disaster that did nothing to fix the larger issues in the county and ended up being controlled by the parents with the loudest voices because the school board refuses to do what they think is actually best for the county. The moves don’t address any of the real issues and are pretty much happening only because the school board can’t afford to throw up their hands and say “Well, that accomplished nothing.”

I am not worried about the mental health of the kids moving, they are moving with friends and will be just fine. Kids move every day for a variety of reasons. Most don’t move with another group of kids that they know.

But the School Board needs to actually make choices that might be unpopular to address over crowded schools. They won’t but that really is their job. I don’t think their original motives for starting this made sense. They should have started by looking at every school that was over crowded and made adjustments to move kids from over crowded schools to decrease that issue. That is it. And some families would not have been happy with the moves, which sucks, but if it makes sense to move SPAs from an over crowded school to the school next door that has space, then that is what should have happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My heart breaks for the 859 elementary students, 364 middle school students, and 474 high school students who are being forced to move as part of this messed up review.

I hope that they find happiness after their mental health has been sacrificed on the altar of Sandy Anderdon’s misguided comprehensive review, and may we have the wisdom to shutdown the ongoing five-year reviews before they can do further harm to thousands and tens of thousands of additional students.

I feel upset because the process was a disaster that did nothing to fix the larger issues in the county and ended up being controlled by the parents with the loudest voices because the school board refuses to do what they think is actually best for the county. The moves don’t address any of the real issues and are pretty much happening only because the school board can’t afford to throw up their hands and say “Well, that accomplished nothing.”

I am not worried about the mental health of the kids moving, they are moving with friends and will be just fine. Kids move every day for a variety of reasons. Most don’t move with another group of kids that they know.

But the School Board needs to actually make choices that might be unpopular to address over crowded schools. They won’t but that really is their job. I don’t think their original motives for starting this made sense. They should have started by looking at every school that was over crowded and made adjustments to move kids from over crowded schools to decrease that issue. That is it. And some families would not have been happy with the moves, which sucks, but if it makes sense to move SPAs from an over crowded school to the school next door that has space, then that is what should have happened.

I totally agree. It's maddening that they made everyone stress and communities fight and all this drama and then couldn't even make the hard choices. In Region 4, yes, "nobody wants to leave" West Springfield. BUT they listened to those voices that were up for moving (probably only about 10% of the school was actually considered) over the rest of us - probably 80% plus of the community that realizes that WS needs relief now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes didn’t do anything about the under enrolled schools because the School Board is petrified of the angry parents who would be moved to those schools. The school board will probably make those moves one at a time to decrease the likihood of them being voted out. Think of the redistricting to SLHS 20 years ago. It was a small area that was impacted, no one else.

Their mistake this time is that announced that they wanted to move kids to balance out schools and every parent group in the County was on guard. When plans were laid out, there were already organized protests and a lot of them. The loud complaining across the area scared the crap out of them.

To top it off, the Crossfield families who don’t want to move to Western are loudly complaiing and, according to one poster, meeting with Reid to explain why they should not be moved from Oakton. I would bet that Crossfield is not moved to Western, or at least not all of Crossfield.

The school board could make some smart changes, like place academies at Herndon and Lewis that people want to attend and require people pupil place into the programs. Or create Votech schools at those schools so that there is a reason for people to want to move to those schools and offering programs that might be a better fit for the population that is already there. And add full AP to all schools to stop the pupil placement. Keep IB at schools that have kids completing the IB diploma, so not Lewis and Mt. Vernon and Annandale.

Why is it the rich white ones who complain most?

Plenty of Asian parents complain if they are going to be moved to what they see as a weaker school. People who value education, and most people who have money value education, want their kids at strong schools. Threaten to move their kids from a top school, like Langley or Oakton, and the parents will be annoyed. They bought to be at those schools. And part of their house value is tied to what school they are zoned for.

People don’t want to move schools, they really don’t want to move from a higher ranked school to a lower ranked school. The schools that Are suffering from losing the most students, and are then under enrolled, are the schools people don’t want to move to.

Then just buy a house right next to the high ranked high school of your preference Public school boundaries are bound to change every so often. If you bought a house in the periphery of a school zone, one that even at some point had been zoned to a lower ranked school, do not complain if your neighborhood is being talked about possibly being rezoned at some point.
Again, public school boundaries are not fixed in stone. Yeah, sometimes the changes done do not make sense, especially if you think you got a raw deal. They can’t make everybody happy.