Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to say this. And I am looking for input because I am truly confused. I used to follow and adored Jen. I read this thread and follow it, rarely post but have read comments about Jen’s change. I understand divorce is a super hard thing but I have also listened to Brandon’s podcasts on his part of it. What Jen choose to tell her followers was a kinda a lie. Their marriage was not a awesome one in the last few years and what Jen presented wasn’t true. How could one be so devastated over a divorce if there hadn’t been intimate connection in years? It makes it all seem so fake. Then the total change in how Jen presents herself, how she talks, what she pushes, her current topics. I’m so confused. I read not to long ago on here about someone saying something about what’s missing with her brand is Brandon. I think someone else defended that statement. Which made me laugh, because how many times has Jen herself bragged about not knowing about technology or email? Who do you think set that up in the beginning for her? Anyone who’s been married for more than a month knows the answer to that question. Saying all that, knowing this is a snark forum, do you think, what was actually awesome at one time about Jen Hatmaker was actually Brandon and no one realized it? I mean in reality? I am truly wondering. Was she so awesome at that time because she had a amazing husband that she just couldn’t see and didn’t give him the credit he actually deserved? I don’t know and frankly it doesn’t really matter, but it’s got me thinking. I hate that Jen seems to have gone so far away from the truth, from the word, the hope so many flocked to her to find. I miss it honestly. Frankly I feel bad for her. Not because she’s divorced or that her husband appears to have moved on or even that her boyfriend seems to be a jerk. I’m sad because I think she’s chosen to exit a place that she shined at.

You make some good points about the marriage being in trouble for a long time but not according to Jen. But her being devastated by the shock of the infidelity and divorce could be because of the same flaws we see now in that, even in her marriage, everything revolved, and still revolves, around her and her tiny little world and what she needs it to be. This wonderful life she’s created is because she’s so adorable and funny and outrageous and strong and wise. And any issues or problems interferes with that, so we can’t have problems, can we? Until they blow up and can’t be ignored.

Jen has to have the life she wants and won’t let anything interfere with her narcissism view of what that needs to be because she would be completely empty without it. She needs a fabulous life, and for her, that can only happen if it revolves around her. If there is no sex in her marriage, Brandon should be ok with that. Kids can’t have issues, so it’s ain’t they cute? I can’t be alone because that makes me look unloveable so I need a boyfriend where we’re madly in love with each other.

I don’t believe she was always like that. But the underlying neediness was probably always there and it gradually became the driving force in her life.

[Anonymous]

I realize what I’ve been doing wrong. I’ve been looking at Jen thru the lens of respect for the person who wrote 7. That person had some meaty challenges, and brought things to my attention I’d not heard before. This gave her credibility in my mind. I looked up to her for the things she portrayed herself to be: happily married wife, devoted mother of 5, cherished daughter, sister, friend, Bible scholar and pastor, successful writer and speaker, champion of the little guy (adopted kids, ministry to the homeless, defender of the marginalized)
To a large extent I think the above were true but they were also full of mixture. Which is the truth for all of us. I take responsibility for buying the myth.
Once I removed this layer protective trust and respect I realized Jen’s just a middle aged woman trying to stay relevant and build a little nest egg to carry her into old age. I look at her odd posts now with a sense of mercy as I see the desperation to be young, cute, adored, respected. It’s like those purple hat ladies, they had this clique to say we matter and we don’t care what you think. Jen’s trying to carve this out with her “community.” It’s ok Jen, time and tragedy finds us all, you don’t have to always be winning. Sometimes admitting defeat is the highest form of success. I’m sending her off into life coaching/influencer land hoping she finds her true voice and it’s gracious and humble, free from narcissism and grandiose savior behavior.

[Anonymous]

She lives in a made up world. Her ig dump--comments. I wonder if she writes them. That dress was SO matronly so she just doesn't know how to dress as a classy older woman--she goes from trashy on her last appearance with stripper heels to "Pioneer Woman" in this week's. But according to her, everyone loves it. Sure.

The brown lipstick, the overly tan foundation to counter the red skin made her look like a Barbie copycat only she didn't look as young.

[Anonymous]

This is so revealing about her narcissism
https://www.leadercast.com/podcast/vunerabilitys-connective-power-with-jen-hatmaker/

[Anonymous]

What was up with that Sherri appearance? Was her mic pack making her itch? She was super fidgety and uncomfortable in that chair.

I liked the dress, but as PP noted, the makeup didn't work with it. And her hair looked the best it has in a while.

[Anonymous]

Just saw her post about the Sherri Show. She must be reading here because she blamed all the fidgeting on being nervous because of the teleprompter not prompting her.

Out of of 23 comments, 11-12 more were raving about her dress and begging her to tell them where she got it. One asked about her bag and another about her lipstick color. So we’ll see a so many of y’all asked for the link post soon. Wondering if she’s giving them some type of cut or discount. I find it hard to believe more than half of the comments were obsessed with wanting to find out where they too could buy that dress. One did ask “Where’s your man?”

[Anonymous]

Jen’s appearance was severe Big Mamma Manic Energy. Too much. Much too much.

Reminded me of an aunt of mine who ferociously doled out advice to us youngsters when she visited us on holidays at loud levels between cocktails with my parents. Just sat there and told us how we needed to live out teen lives. How to deal with teachers, boyfriends, jobs, college prospects. Everything. Outbid redirect we bore it with Grace but inside we were rolling our eyes to the rafters. All of this despite not being a mom herself.

[Anonymous]

Jen look like she popped in a few addies before she went on stage. That was…something. No chill whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Jen on Sherri:

1) I thought she looked better than she’s looked in a while! Still wish she’d give up the blonde.

2) Fidgety. I can empathize. I often feel like I’m totally spazzing out in social situations even though people always tell me I look completely calm. I can imagine that on a talk show like that, things move at the speed of light and if you’re not perfectly comfortable, the camera picks up everything.

3) Her message. Was it groundbreaking? No. Was it still a good reminder? Yes.

4) How is no one talking about this more?? When did she go to the ER for high blood pressure and panic attacks????? I don’t remember any post about her in the hospital. Does anyone have it? Please and thank you.

5) Sherri, if you have Jen on again can you please talk about something other than her divorce?

[Anonymous]

I understand snark and criticism but what’s the point in mocking what she wears, her skin, her hair, her stims??

She’s turning 50. Her ex remarried someone who’s older than her but looks at least a decade younger. Her boyfriend doesn’t seem like the type to give compliments more than “u aight”. I’m not surprised she’s struggling to find confidence in fashion.

[Anonymous]

What’s up with Tyler? He’s hasn’t posted in over a week. Is he sick?

Why isn’t he hyping Jen up? If Tyler were on Sherri, Jen would be raising the roof for him.

He’s already posted about her so don’t tell me his social media is strictly professional. This is a major professional accomplishment for Jen and he needs to be a better public partner.

This relationship seems highly unequal and it’s uncomfortable whether you like Jen or not.

[Anonymous]

Someone needs to tell Big Sass that gushing about Big Sis's purse (even if he bought it and he's attempting to grab praise for himself) is NOT helping their "We're-madly-truly-in-love-and-he-is-not-at-all-gay-as-the-day-is-long" campaign.

[Anonymous]

Isn’t their one year anniversary coming up?

[Anonymous]

Which son wasn't in the picture?

[Anonymous]

I don’t actually have Facebook or Instagram so I’m limited in what I can see but I’ve always followed Jen and I enjoy her friendship with Sherri.