FCPS comprehensive boundary review

Anonymous
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You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


+1. How many parents choose where they live based on school pyramid? Practically all.

She just wants to take from her neighbors no matter the cost to them or the entire school system.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.
It’s the truth though. Boundaries can always be changed. If you don’t want that move to Falls Church where there is only one HS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they didn't build a middle and high school in central GF. Then they could have pulled in areas of Herndon and Reston.


It would have been a better location in theory, but isn't that area on septic? Great Falls is largely designed to keep development out, not bring it in.

The mistake was expanding Langley to almost 2400 seats during its renovation, when its enrollment had been steady at around 2000 for years. By adding capacity, they played into the hands of people living miles away and closer to other schools who continued to say "someone needs to go there."

At the time, they defended the expansion and said it was prudent for FCPS to expand any school getting renovated, even if the current enrollment didn't justify it. Their problem is that FCPS followed the same approach with Herndon, which now is projected to have more vacant seats than Langley. It was easy enough to justify bussing kids long distances to Langley when Herndon was overcrowded. When the opposite is the case, people will ask why they should have to continue to subsidize the long bus trips to Langley.


Has anyone quantified the supposed subside that you claim exists? It’s either close to zero or likely non-existent.

Pretty insane of you to claim that others subsidize Langley when tax dollars clearly flow the other way. But I guess this is one of those situations where the school board is going to FAFO how much support it’s going to lose from the professional families.

The extreme left deserves everything they got coming to them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.


So cute. Someone is pretending to be a lawyer.

Ask around and you’ll see how out of step you are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they didn't build a middle and high school in central GF. Then they could have pulled in areas of Herndon and Reston.


It would have been a better location in theory, but isn't that area on septic? Great Falls is largely designed to keep development out, not bring it in.

The mistake was expanding Langley to almost 2400 seats during its renovation, when its enrollment had been steady at around 2000 for years. By adding capacity, they played into the hands of people living miles away and closer to other schools who continued to say "someone needs to go there."

At the time, they defended the expansion and said it was prudent for FCPS to expand any school getting renovated, even if the current enrollment didn't justify it. Their problem is that FCPS followed the same approach with Herndon, which now is projected to have more vacant seats than Langley. It was easy enough to justify bussing kids long distances to Langley when Herndon was overcrowded. When the opposite is the case, people will ask why they should have to continue to subsidize the long bus trips to Langley.


Has anyone quantified the supposed subside that you claim exists? It’s either close to zero or likely non-existent.

Pretty insane of you to claim that others subsidize Langley when tax dollars clearly flow the other way. But I guess this is one of those situations where the school board is going to FAFO how much support it’s going to lose from the professional families.

The extreme left deserves everything they got coming to them.



They aren’t going to design policy based on an assumption that “professional families” will leave unless they can attend segregated schools. To do so would be to embrace a far-right agenda and, in any event, they know there are already lots of professional families at Herndon, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.


So cute. Someone is pretending to be a lawyer.

Ask around and you’ll see how out of step you are.


Not even pretending.

So you might want to stop dropping all the fancy references to “takings,” which make you sound like the one who is in well over their head here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.


So cute. Someone is pretending to be a lawyer.

Ask around and you’ll see how out of step you are.


Not even pretending.

So you might want to stop dropping all the fancy references to “takings,” which make you sound like the one who is in well over their head here.


You’re conflating posters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they didn't build a middle and high school in central GF. Then they could have pulled in areas of Herndon and Reston.


It would have been a better location in theory, but isn't that area on septic? Great Falls is largely designed to keep development out, not bring it in.

The mistake was expanding Langley to almost 2400 seats during its renovation, when its enrollment had been steady at around 2000 for years. By adding capacity, they played into the hands of people living miles away and closer to other schools who continued to say "someone needs to go there."

At the time, they defended the expansion and said it was prudent for FCPS to expand any school getting renovated, even if the current enrollment didn't justify it. Their problem is that FCPS followed the same approach with Herndon, which now is projected to have more vacant seats than Langley. It was easy enough to justify bussing kids long distances to Langley when Herndon was overcrowded. When the opposite is the case, people will ask why they should have to continue to subsidize the long bus trips to Langley.


Has anyone quantified the supposed subside that you claim exists? It’s either close to zero or likely non-existent.

Pretty insane of you to claim that others subsidize Langley when tax dollars clearly flow the other way. But I guess this is one of those situations where the school board is going to FAFO how much support it’s going to lose from the professional families.

The extreme left deserves everything they got coming to them.



They aren’t going to design policy based on an assumption that “professional families” will leave unless they can attend segregated schools. To do so would be to embrace a far-right agenda and, in any event, they know there are already lots of professional families at Herndon, too.


That, in a nutshell, is why you are consistently wrong. It’s not far right to want to stay in the school pyramid that families choose. Even families in mediocre schools want their kids to stay in pyramid.

You and the school board assume differently and put the country at risk of a death spiral.

Good luck with your pending DOGE cuts. Seems like you’ve brought them on yourself with your head in the sand and being ridiculously out of step with the average parent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.


So cute. Someone is pretending to be a lawyer.

Ask around and you’ll see how out of step you are.


Not even pretending.

So you might want to stop dropping all the fancy references to “takings,” which make you sound like the one who is in well over their head here.


You’re conflating posters.


You’re interchangeable to be honest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they didn't build a middle and high school in central GF. Then they could have pulled in areas of Herndon and Reston.


It would have been a better location in theory, but isn't that area on septic? Great Falls is largely designed to keep development out, not bring it in.

The mistake was expanding Langley to almost 2400 seats during its renovation, when its enrollment had been steady at around 2000 for years. By adding capacity, they played into the hands of people living miles away and closer to other schools who continued to say "someone needs to go there."

At the time, they defended the expansion and said it was prudent for FCPS to expand any school getting renovated, even if the current enrollment didn't justify it. Their problem is that FCPS followed the same approach with Herndon, which now is projected to have more vacant seats than Langley. It was easy enough to justify bussing kids long distances to Langley when Herndon was overcrowded. When the opposite is the case, people will ask why they should have to continue to subsidize the long bus trips to Langley.


Has anyone quantified the supposed subside that you claim exists? It’s either close to zero or likely non-existent.

Pretty insane of you to claim that others subsidize Langley when tax dollars clearly flow the other way. But I guess this is one of those situations where the school board is going to FAFO how much support it’s going to lose from the professional families.

The extreme left deserves everything they got coming to them.



They aren’t going to design policy based on an assumption that “professional families” will leave unless they can attend segregated schools. To do so would be to embrace a far-right agenda and, in any event, they know there are already lots of professional families at Herndon, too.


That, in a nutshell, is why you are consistently wrong. It’s not far right to want to stay in the school pyramid that families choose. Even families in mediocre schools want their kids to stay in pyramid.

You and the school board assume differently and put the country at risk of a death spiral.

Good luck with your pending DOGE cuts. Seems like you’ve brought them on yourself with your head in the sand and being ridiculously out of step with the average parent.


You’re getting a bit ahead of yourself, given that no changes have yet been proposed.

It’s the non-stop fretting over changes that haven’t even been proposed yet that shows that you’re claiming you have a right to a particular school assignment in perpetuity, when you simply don’t. As someone else noted, if you’re not prepared to accept even the possibility of a boundary change, maybe you need to live in FCC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.


So cute. Someone is pretending to be a lawyer.

Ask around and you’ll see how out of step you are.


Not even pretending.

So you might want to stop dropping all the fancy references to “takings,” which make you sound like the one who is in well over their head here.


You’re conflating posters.


You’re interchangeable to be honest.


Me and all the other Fairfax families? On this topic, you’re right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they didn't build a middle and high school in central GF. Then they could have pulled in areas of Herndon and Reston.


It would have been a better location in theory, but isn't that area on septic? Great Falls is largely designed to keep development out, not bring it in.

The mistake was expanding Langley to almost 2400 seats during its renovation, when its enrollment had been steady at around 2000 for years. By adding capacity, they played into the hands of people living miles away and closer to other schools who continued to say "someone needs to go there."

At the time, they defended the expansion and said it was prudent for FCPS to expand any school getting renovated, even if the current enrollment didn't justify it. Their problem is that FCPS followed the same approach with Herndon, which now is projected to have more vacant seats than Langley. It was easy enough to justify bussing kids long distances to Langley when Herndon was overcrowded. When the opposite is the case, people will ask why they should have to continue to subsidize the long bus trips to Langley.


Has anyone quantified the supposed subside that you claim exists? It’s either close to zero or likely non-existent.

Pretty insane of you to claim that others subsidize Langley when tax dollars clearly flow the other way. But I guess this is one of those situations where the school board is going to FAFO how much support it’s going to lose from the professional families.

The extreme left deserves everything they got coming to them.



They aren’t going to design policy based on an assumption that “professional families” will leave unless they can attend segregated schools. To do so would be to embrace a far-right agenda and, in any event, they know there are already lots of professional families at Herndon, too.


That, in a nutshell, is why you are consistently wrong. It’s not far right to want to stay in the school pyramid that families choose. Even families in mediocre schools want their kids to stay in pyramid.

You and the school board assume differently and put the country at risk of a death spiral.

Good luck with your pending DOGE cuts. Seems like you’ve brought them on yourself with your head in the sand and being ridiculously out of step with the average parent.


You’re getting a bit ahead of yourself, given that no changes have yet been proposed.

It’s the non-stop fretting over changes that haven’t even been proposed yet that shows that you’re claiming you have a right to a particular school assignment in perpetuity, when you simply don’t. As someone else noted, if you’re not prepared to accept even the possibility of a boundary change, maybe you need to live in FCC.


At least I’m fighting for my neighborhood’s kids. You’re fighting for an increase to your property values.

I’d be open to a move to a school of similar quality. Tbh, maybe this administration deporting gang members will change Herndon for the better. You should be rooting the administration on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You really need to educate yourself on how the boundaries of schools like Langley, Annandale, and Lewis ended up drawn as they currently are before you go off pontificating at such lengths.


+1

Herndon's boundaries are pretty much the same as they have been for a very long time. No one complained about Herndon twenty years ago. It is the population that has changed--not the boundaries. No one and no developer "did this."


Google Herndon High and gangs and see what you get back.

Don’t pretend Herndon was this sterling school tears ago.

I don’t have an issue with carve outs for the developers, but when there is a bait and switch then families are left holding the bag. These families likely would not have bought those homes if zoned to Herndon High.

The school board is taking from those families. Let’s call it what it is.


No one is guaranteed assignment to a specific school in a county-wide school system. You cannot be deprived of something that was never yours in the first place.


Absolutely ridiculous perspective.


And yet it’s the correct one.

Just try to recover damages on the theory that the SB infringed on your interests.

You want to use language that implies you had a “right” to stay zoned for a specific school, but of course you had no such right, only an expectation.


So cute. Someone is pretending to be a lawyer.

Ask around and you’ll see how out of step you are.


Not even pretending.

So you might want to stop dropping all the fancy references to “takings,” which make you sound like the one who is in well over their head here.


You’re conflating posters.


You’re interchangeable to be honest.


Me and all the other Fairfax families? On this topic, you’re right.


Do you mean the other FairFACTS families from Langley?

If the proposed changes are logical they’ll be met largely with support or indifference.

If they overplay their hand, they’ll be met with a different response.

Either way, most in the county would have no problem with FCPS moving kids at Langley to Herndon if they live closer to Herndon and Herndon has space.
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