CTCL schools

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Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

Because not everyone is completely sold on the merits of the Ivy-or-bust grind, and they want to know about other approaches to a college search. They also want other ideas about what college is FOR. Is it just credential mining? Is it about becoming a better person? Is it about partying for 4 years? What's the point?

Baloney. It’s because they know they’re not getting INTO the Ivies etc.

Not. everyone. wants. to. go. to. an. Ivy.

I got into Swarthmore and Carlton. Neither offered enough aid to make them worth it. Went to a CTCL instead. Graduated with 9K in debt.

Sure you did. By the way,it's CarlEton.

Not the PP, but all my VA cousins got into Duke, but each one ended up at UVA as parents would not pay full freight. (Hope springs eternal.) I don't think it is unfathomable that a student might very well turn down Carleton and Swarthmore: let's say they were both $60K a clip at the time - for a CTCL providing $25K merit and bringing annual cost down to $35K, this would be a no-brainer for many families.

You've told this story before. It's a totally different situation. Duke is not leaps and bounds above UVA in academic circles. In fact, many in academia consider them to be peers. Virginia residents routinely turn down Duke (or don't even bother applying if they know they can get into UVA) for this reason.

Duke > Virginia (maybe)
Swarthmore >> Reed
Swarthmore >>>> every other CTCL

Look, it happened. I'm not going to share receipts because (a) I don't have them because I'm not insane, and (b) anonymity.

I was a co-valediction at a high school out west. The other two went to our state's flagship (think: University of Idaho. But not that) and to Colorado College.

I would have graduated with ~150K in debt had I gone to Carleton or Swarthmore. I graduated with 9K in debt because I'm not an idiot.

How can you not fathom that there are many other people who are "smart" enough to get into Ivies/elite LACs but may not want to go to them for whatever reason?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

Because not everyone is completely sold on the merits of the Ivy-or-bust grind, and they want to know about other approaches to a college search. They also want other ideas about what college is FOR. Is it just credential mining? Is it about becoming a better person? Is it about partying for 4 years? What's the point?

Baloney. It’s because they know they’re not getting INTO the Ivies etc.

Not. everyone. wants. to. go. to. an. Ivy.

I got into Swarthmore and Carlton. Neither offered enough aid to make them worth it. Went to a CTCL instead. Graduated with 9K in debt.

Sure you did. By the way,it's CarlEton.

Not the PP, but all my VA cousins got into Duke, but each one ended up at UVA as parents would not pay full freight. (Hope springs eternal.) I don't think it is unfathomable that a student might very well turn down Carleton and Swarthmore: let's say they were both $60K a clip at the time - for a CTCL providing $25K merit and bringing annual cost down to $35K, this would be a no-brainer for many families.

You've told this story before. It's a totally different situation. Duke is not leaps and bounds above UVA in academic circles. In fact, many in academia consider them to be peers. Virginia residents routinely turn down Duke (or don't even bother applying if they know they can get into UVA) for this reason.

Duke > Virginia (maybe)
Swarthmore >> Reed
Swarthmore >>>> every other CTCL

Look, it happened. I'm not going to share receipts because (a) I don't have them because I'm not insane, and (b) anonymity.

I was a co-valediction at a high school out west. The other two went to our state's flagship (think: University of Idaho. But not that) and to Colorado College.

I would have graduated with ~150K in debt had I gone to Carleton or Swarthmore. I graduated with 9K in debt because I'm not an idiot.

How can you not fathom that there are many other people who are "smart" enough to get into Ivies/elite LACs but may not want to go to them for whatever reason?

DP. Cool for you, if true. But the fact that you're clinging onto the CTCL branding suggests that you're deeply insecure on some level. Otherwise you'd just say you went to a small liberal arts college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start your own college guidebook and hope it catches on. Things stick for a reason.

Yes because of desperate boosters who feel they need some contrived qualification to help them feel special

Because not everyone is completely sold on the merits of the Ivy-or-bust grind, and they want to know about other approaches to a college search. They also want other ideas about what college is FOR. Is it just credential mining? Is it about becoming a better person? Is it about partying for 4 years? What's the point?

Baloney. It’s because they know they’re not getting INTO the Ivies etc.

Not. everyone. wants. to. go. to. an. Ivy.

I got into Swarthmore and Carlton. Neither offered enough aid to make them worth it. Went to a CTCL instead. Graduated with 9K in debt.

Sure you did. By the way,it's CarlEton.

Not the PP, but all my VA cousins got into Duke, but each one ended up at UVA as parents would not pay full freight. (Hope springs eternal.) I don't think it is unfathomable that a student might very well turn down Carleton and Swarthmore: let's say they were both $60K a clip at the time - for a CTCL providing $25K merit and bringing annual cost down to $35K, this would be a no-brainer for many families.

You've told this story before. It's a totally different situation. Duke is not leaps and bounds above UVA in academic circles. In fact, many in academia consider them to be peers. Virginia residents routinely turn down Duke (or don't even bother applying if they know they can get into UVA) for this reason.

Duke > Virginia (maybe)
Swarthmore >> Reed
Swarthmore >>>> every other CTCL

Look, it happened. I'm not going to share receipts because (a) I don't have them because I'm not insane, and (b) anonymity.

I was a co-valediction at a high school out west. The other two went to our state's flagship (think: University of Idaho. But not that) and to Colorado College.

I would have graduated with ~150K in debt had I gone to Carleton or Swarthmore. I graduated with 9K in debt because I'm not an idiot.

How can you not fathom that there are many other people who are "smart" enough to get into Ivies/elite LACs but may not want to go to them for whatever reason?

DP. Cool for you, if true. But the fact that you're clinging onto the CTCL branding suggests that you're deeply insecure on some level. Otherwise you'd just say you went to a small liberal arts college.

I only say I go to a CTCL on a thread called "CTCL schools!"

[Anonymous]

Right! The CTCL-obsessed critic(s) are just here to pick fights with those of us who have a genuine interest in the topic. Shame they have nothing better to do.

[Anonymous]

New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

Watch out: there is at least one or two anti-CTCL posters here who are triggered by the word "fit" - watch your back!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

Watch out: there is at least one or two anti-CTCL posters here who are triggered by the word "fit" - watch your back!

Yea. “Fit” means “We are white people with money and underachieving kids and we need to find a college that will take them that we can say is ‘special’”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone attended a CTCL fair? I just got a mailing that they are doing a nationwide tour in August.

I recommend them highly. My DC and I went early on (maybe junior year). It really impacted the direction of our search. NOT because they were pushing their own schools, but because they advocate an approach/philosophy that is very healthy.

They explain "fit" and why it matters. They recommend against kids competing with their friends in the search process. They give tips on how to minimize parent-child tension along the way. I really do recommend that you attend, and try to get your child to sit in as well. It set a great tone for our search, and my DC was very successful.

+100 Bravo, CTCL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

Watch out: there is at least one or two anti-CTCL posters here who are triggered by the word "fit" - watch your back!

Yea. “Fit” means “We are white people with money and underachieving kids and we need to find a college that will take them that we can say is ‘special’”.

And as a bonus it drives the low-brows berserk!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

Watch out: there is at least one or two anti-CTCL posters here who are triggered by the word "fit" - watch your back!

Yea. “Fit” means “We are white people with money and underachieving kids and we need to find a college that will take them that we can say is ‘special’”.

Interesting. DC is a senior and know a range of families looking at a range of schools. Since when is special reserved for a sliver of the student populace?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

Watch out: there is at least one or two anti-CTCL posters here who are triggered by the word "fit" - watch your back!

Yea. “Fit” means “We are white people with money and underachieving kids and we need to find a college that will take them that we can say is ‘special’”.

Interesting. DC is a senior and know a range of families looking at a range of schools. Since when is special reserved for a sliver of the student populace?

We're not talking about "a range of schools." We're talking about certain schools. CTCL schools. Your post makes zero sense. None.

[Anonymous]

The public equivalents of the CTCL schools are all commuter schools filled with lower ses kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here:

Why is this unhinged maniac bashing CTCL for the past 11 pages? What a psychotic loser.

I actually like the CTCL label because there's certain a layer of small, private regional colleges that families should consider. They don't have huge marketing budgets, but they may "fit" the needs - cost, academic specialization, location, or student-teacher ratio - of a particular family.

Watch out: there is at least one or two anti-CTCL posters here who are triggered by the word "fit" - watch your back!

Yea. “Fit” means “We are white people with money and underachieving kids and we need to find a college that will take them that we can say is ‘special’”.

Interesting. DC is a senior and know a range of families looking at a range of schools. Since when is special reserved for a sliver of the student populace?

We're not talking about "a range of schools." We're talking about certain schools. CTCL schools. Your post makes zero sense. None.

No, a range of schools. Some top 25, some top state schools, and some in the CTCL category. Special isn't reserved for a sliver of these students.

[Anonymous]

CTCL isn't a category. It's some made up list from almost three decades ago. Why not start saying that you went to a BVL school or a BBFYB school or a FGC school or an ABC school or whatnot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CTCL isn't a category. It's some made up list from almost three decades ago. Why not start saying that you went to a BVL school or a BBFYB school or a FGC school or an ABC school or whatnot.

I’ve never heard someone IRL say “I went to a CTCL school.” They just name the school.