Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is no one mentioning the martial arts and Mr.Savapoulos interest in knives. This not about the art...the art was worth a couple of 100 thousand at best. No old masters...no abstract expressionists of note. Not a theft a vengeance crime in my opinion.Very frustrating...

Unless they lied, Christmas house tour was Van Gogh and Picasso. I don't think there are cheap Van Gogh Lithographs. If real, it was millions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the ceo of a successful business opening a martial arts studio in chantilly?

He is a Black Belt Martial Artist. It was one of his passions and hobbies.

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the Picasso would have been a litho. There absolutely was not multi million dollar art in that house. They had a Pauline Palmer. 100's if that ,retail. My sister has a Picasso, it is monoprint I think. 3 grand. Very prolific artist. Check art net. The decor and art in the house not high level to those that know. This not a theft.

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Back in 1999, Mr. Savapoulos was arguing with someone named Ron Beaubien...Google search and you will find conversations over some martial arts crap. Kind of loony and odd conversation. Perhaps this was retaliation since Mr. Savapoulos was about to open his own martial arts school?

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[Anonymous]

Maybe the perpetrator was Asian, more specifically Japanese?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It does make sense that the maid was first to die. If the message was left on Wednesday night to say the maid was sleeping there I wonder what time that call was made. It doesn't sound like this was a middle of the night home invasion. I wonder how late the maid normally worked. Do we know when the 2nd maid heard the message and called the husband? It had to have been on Wednesday at a reasonable hour. The husband would've been worried and gone looking for his wife on Wednesday night if not.

Is there mention of Mrs Savopoulos going for money or is that speculation? These criminals no doubt were in that neighborhood before. I doubt they knew the victims. They will be caught. I can't imagine watching another person suffer and not feel anything. Does DC have the death penalty? I hope so.

These entries aren't necessarily done middle of night anymore with alarms, etc. I think you wait till someone opens the door.

Also, why were the perps using the Porsche???

[Anonymous]

Theory...perps used porche to avoid bring identifiable car to the scene. Well thought out...maybe second car waiting parked in advance at church or nearby...or perp hopped on new Carrolton train...to....where? BWI?

[Anonymous]

How would they know money missing from house...don't think so...that is not the reason...next....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How would they know money missing from house...don't think so...that is not the reason...next....

An empty safe, perhaps. Merely speculating.

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I believe Mr. Savapoullos had some enemies in the marrtial arts community. This was not a random attack, he really pissed some people off methinks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It does make sense that the maid was first to die. If the message was left on Wednesday night to say the maid was sleeping there I wonder what time that call was made. It doesn't sound like this was a middle of the night home invasion. I wonder how late the maid normally worked. Do we know when the 2nd maid heard the message and called the husband? It had to have been on Wednesday at a reasonable hour. The husband would've been worried and gone looking for his wife on Wednesday night if not.

Is there mention of Mrs Savopoulos going for money or is that speculation? These criminals no doubt were in that neighborhood before. I doubt they knew the victims. They will be caught. I can't imagine watching another person suffer and not feel anything. Does DC have the death penalty? I hope so.

DC does not have a death penalty.

They don't....nor could the bastards who did this have used a gun, because they are illegal in DC as well....and that would be criminal.....

Its a personal choice, but I wish this family had had the choice under DC law to have weapons in their home. They would have had a chance.

I do suspect that the Porsche in Maryland, crossing state lines, makes this federal enough, there will be a death penalty charge somewhere in this if/when they catch this/these people.

Why doesn't DC have home rule? This is why.

You need to update your talking points, because it is now legal to own a handgun in DC, not that that issue has anything to do with home rule. Please see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller.

[Anonymous]

"Gutierrez said in the interview that Savvas Savopoulos had asked her to help at the studio on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, instead of at the couple’s home on Thursday.

On Wednesday night, Gutierrez told police, she got the voice mail from Savvas Savopoulos saying that his wife was sick and Philip was home from school with an injury. He told her that Figueroa was going to stay the night to help, but that her phone had died and she had no charger. He asked the housekeeper to call Figueroa’s relatives to relay the message.

In an interview, she said she had never known Figueroa to stay overnight at the home and thought it was odd. “Never, never did she stay over.”

Also Thursday morning, one of Savopoulos’s assistants apparently left a package outside the Woodland Drive house, according to the police records. That person then drove to Chantilly and was there through the day. And at roughly the same time, Figueroa’s husband went to the house to check on his wife. There apparently was no answer.

Minutes before 10 a.m., Gutierrez got a text message from Amy Savopoulos: “I am making sure you do not come today.” Gutierrez, who was then cleaning another home in McLean, replied that she would not be coming, per Savvas Savopoulos’s earlier orders, according to the police documents."

Quoted text from Washington Post article.

Are Mrs. Gutierrez's statements and her account true? It should be fairly easy for the police to verify the existence, timeline, and content of the alleged text and/or voicemail messages.

If Mrs. Gutierrez's account about the text and/or voicemails is confirmed, then we may be able to assume two things:

(1) that Mrs. Gutierrez is likely also being truthful when she reports that earlier that week, Mr. Savopoulos had already told Mrs. Gutierrez not to come to his house on Thursday, because he wanted her to work at a business site for him on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday instead; and

(2) that the only person we know for certain was alive in the house on Wednesday evening is Mr. Savopoulos, who contacted Mrs. Gutierrez that evening to ask her to call Mr. Figueroa's husband.

The police will certainly investigate the time of death of each of the individual victims in this case. It gives me the chills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is no one mentioning the martial arts and Mr.Savapoulos interest in knives. This not about the art...the art was worth a couple of 100 thousand at best. No old masters...no abstract expressionists of note. Not a theft a vengeance crime in my opinion.Very frustrating...

Unless they lied, Christmas house tour was Van Gogh and Picasso. I don't think there are cheap Van Gogh Lithographs. If real, it was millions.

I own two Picasso lithographs. If they are worth millions, that's quite the surprise to me!

[Anonymous]

So, Mr. Savapoulos was CEO of an Iron Company, an attorney, a martial arts expert and owner of a marrtial arts studio, a husband, and a father of three kids. Hmmmm, most humans can barely handle two of these roles. He seemed something of an übermensch.