Herndon club

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids have played Herndon for years and we have always been satisfied to happy each season.

This season, something is not right with the administration. They doubled our "team fees" with no explanation-from 200 something last year (for 4 tournaments) to $500 this year. Are we playing in twice as many tournaments? No one knows.

There is at least one lower team that I know kids are registered for are missing from the NCSL divisions page.

Teams that in the past were required to play in the Herndon-sponsored Dulles tournament are missing from the participating teams list.

None of the other tournaments our teams usually play in pre-season have ANY Herndon teams listed as participating: Loudoun Premier Cup, Revolution Cup, OBGC, etc.

Does anyone have any insider information on what the heck is happening? What would be happening at a club to prevent all the teams from being registered for tournaments?

Is there a change in administration this year compared to previous years?

[Anonymous]

Last year, they hired a new admin and switched everyone over to Playmetrics. Our Team Manager used to register us and collect money for the tournaments $ coach travel one at a time over the course of the year (and it was usually around $70 per tournament total per family?).

Everyone was surprised to see the team fees basically double for this coming season but thought it just meant more tournament and inflation. 4 was a little lower than other clubs seemed to do. And collecting it upfront was less work for the team managers who already have a tough job.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like club admin screwed something major up. No teams registered for any local tournaments? Herndon is not a small club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year, they hired a new admin and switched everyone over to Playmetrics. Our Team Manager used to register us and collect money for the tournaments $ coach travel one at a time over the course of the year (and it was usually around $70 per tournament total per family?).

Everyone was surprised to see the team fees basically double for this coming season but thought it just meant more tournament and inflation. 4 was a little lower than other clubs seemed to do. And collecting it upfront was less work for the team managers who already have a tough job.

Maybe Playmetrics costs more and they are passing that cost along to families? Seems like most clubs have switched over to it.

The offer emails we got for both kids stated four tournaments total. Team fees were between $300 and $400 for each kid. Is the $600 fee for older kids? ECNL RL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year, they hired a new admin and switched everyone over to Playmetrics. Our Team Manager used to register us and collect money for the tournaments $ coach travel one at a time over the course of the year (and it was usually around $70 per tournament total per family?).

Everyone was surprised to see the team fees basically double for this coming season but thought it just meant more tournament and inflation. 4 was a little lower than other clubs seemed to do. And collecting it upfront was less work for the team managers who already have a tough job.

Maybe Playmetrics costs more and they are passing that cost along to families? Seems like most clubs have switched over to it.

The offer emails we got for both kids stated four tournaments total. Team fees were between $300 and $400 for each kid. Is the $600 fee for older kids? ECNL RL?

Our team fee was around $550 for a second team (not RL) in a high school age group. Email says it includes 4 tournaments, 6-9 league games in Fall and 6-9 league games in spring,
3-4 "winter friendlies". I assume the state cup games in fall and spring are not included as part of the 4 tournaments-they weren't last year. Last year all our tournaments were local.

[Anonymous]

That's really high for 4 local tournaments. Even assuming it costs $80 per player per tournament (high estimate since the coach travel will be low locally)....

18 players on a high school team each paying $550 = $9900 team fees collected.

Four local tournaments at $80 per player= $5760.

State cup is around $800 I think, adding $1600 for fall and spring= $7360.

$9900 collected - $7360 spent and this is a HIGH estimate, likely much lower = at least $2540 overage per team.

I don't think Playmetrics costs $2500 per team!

[Anonymous]

Playmetrics does not cost $2500 per team lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's really high for 4 local tournaments. Even assuming it costs $80 per player per tournament (high estimate since the coach travel will be low locally)....

18 players on a high school team each paying $550 = $9900 team fees collected.

Four local tournaments at $80 per player= $5760.

State cup is around $800 I think, adding $1600 for fall and spring= $7360.

$9900 collected - $7360 spent and this is a HIGH estimate, likely much lower = at least $2540 overage per team.

I don't think Playmetrics costs $2500 per team!

I would rather pay a little more for local tournaments than have to pay all the extra fees added on to stay to play hotels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's really high for 4 local tournaments. Even assuming it costs $80 per player per tournament (high estimate since the coach travel will be low locally)....

18 players on a high school team each paying $550 = $9900 team fees collected.

Four local tournaments at $80 per player= $5760.

State cup is around $800 I think, adding $1600 for fall and spring= $7360.

$9900 collected - $7360 spent and this is a HIGH estimate, likely much lower = at least $2540 overage per team.

I don't think Playmetrics costs $2500 per team!

I would rather pay a little more for local tournaments than have to pay all the extra fees added on to stay to play hotels.

Same, I wish all we did was local tournaments!
But the fee being charged to those families is very high for four local tournaments! Coaches aren't incurring expenses.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like they are not doing any tournaments local or otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Longtime Herndon parent here-I think honestly something strange is going on with the club admin or management.

I checked all the pre-season tournaments are teams usually play in and NO Herndon teams are registered yet for any of the normal events our teams play in: Loudoun Premier, OBGC. And some of the teams that should be signed up for Herndon's own tournament are missing from the applied teams list (and it's Herndon's tournament, all the teams U15 and below are supposedly required to participate).

We paid almost a $600 "tournament fee" for tournaments and coach travel expenses and have no tournaments scheduled yet. To assess that fee acurately, the club would have to know which tournaments each team was doing in advance.

I am also a longtime Herndon parent and completely agree. Once Herndon centralized all of the payments to the club instead of through each individual team, the fees went way up and there was a lot less transparency about what the money was being used for.

And don't even get me started on the switch to Capelli.

Something isn't adding up.

[Anonymous]

No Herndon teams seemed to be signed up for Revolution Cup either per IG. i know we played Herndon teams there in the past.

[Anonymous]

I think we pay Playmetrics something like $15 per player.

[Anonymous]

Maybe they fell behind on getting player cards and couldn't sign teams up for tournaments.

[Anonymous]

Player cards can't be printed until August 1, so they are not late if they haven't gotten teams approved yet.