Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Palestinian deaths during incursions into Israel hardly count as "self-defense".

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

I don't think the death toll is in all that much dispute. There is the question of who the casualties are, with the Gazan authorities claiming only women and children are casualties, with the terrorists left untouched, which seems more than a little mendacious. What seems to be more the issue is whether the Palestinians and Hamas can stop the death toll from rising, which they obviously both can and also won't. They prefer to keep goading Israel and suffering the consequences.

Israel could abandon the hostages and just absorb the terrorist activity without response, the preferred approach of the Hamas sympathizers.

Or, the IDF could continue to work towards neutralization of terrorism, which is what it is doing. That is not without a cost to both the terrorists and to the civilians among whom they hide and shelter.

1. Nobody is a Hamas sympathizer, but nice try with that perspective false claim.

2. Actually, people like you have REPEATEDLY and DESPICABLY disputed the death toll in Gaza, going so far as to assert that the death toll is a fraction of what the health ministry in Gaza has reported (wrong) and that, despite even the IDF concurring that most of the dead are non-combatant civilians, the majority killed have been militant members of Hamas (wrong again).

While you, on the other hand, have personally counted combat casualties caused by the IDF? Sure. If you believe the Hamas-controlled health authority is an objective, credible, and reliable data source, I have a bridge to sell you.

Anyway, even one death is too many, so why is Hamas still holding hostages and engaging in military activity, which are sure ways to keep the conflict going.

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We are supposed to hold Israel to a higher standard than we do Hamas? is that what you are saying, pp who loves Gaza?

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Or Hamas can unconditionally surrender.
Israel is the only country that gets asked to give up land every time they win a war.
This is war.
A war that hamas started.

FAFO.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Palestinian deaths during incursions into Israel hardly count as "self-defense".

Zionists will never bother to admit the truth to themselves. The oppressors don’t care about the oppressed. Occupiers don’t care for the occupied. It’s actually kind of a sickening kind of logic but here it is in full display.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

I don't think the death toll is in all that much dispute. There is the question of who the casualties are, with the Gazan authorities claiming only women and children are casualties, with the terrorists left untouched, which seems more than a little mendacious. What seems to be more the issue is whether the Palestinians and Hamas can stop the death toll from rising, which they obviously both can and also won't. They prefer to keep goading Israel and suffering the consequences.

Israel could abandon the hostages and just absorb the terrorist activity without response, the preferred approach of the Hamas sympathizers.

Or, the IDF could continue to work towards neutralization of terrorism, which is what it is doing. That is not without a cost to both the terrorists and to the civilians among whom they hide and shelter.

1. Nobody is a Hamas sympathizer, but nice try with that perspective false claim.

2. Actually, people like you have REPEATEDLY and DESPICABLY disputed the death toll in Gaza, going so far as to assert that the death toll is a fraction of what the health ministry in Gaza has reported (wrong) and that, despite even the IDF concurring that most of the dead are non-combatant civilians, the majority killed have been militant members of Hamas (wrong again).

While you, on the other hand, have personally counted combat casualties caused by the IDF? Sure. If you believe the Hamas-controlled health authority is an objective, credible, and reliable data source, I have a bridge to sell you.

Anyway, even one death is too many, so why is Hamas still holding hostages and engaging in military activity, which are sure ways to keep the conflict going.

Have you gone into Gaza to count the headless kids? A deal was on the table and rejected by Netenyahu, get your facts in order. There is civil unrest in Israel because of the rejected deal. Get over it, Israel sucks and everyone knows. Nobody is buying the Zionist lies anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Or Hamas can unconditionally surrender.
Israel is the only country that gets asked to give up land every time they win a war.
This is war.
A war that hamas started.

FAFO.

Hamas unconditionally surrendered in late October 2023 when they said Israel can have all the hostages back.
What exactly do you not get that Hamas knows whether they surrender or not will mean nothing to Israel? This idea that Israel will suddenly play nice if they get all the hostages back is only the delusion of Western Zionists. People there know what it is. Israel is currently killing and taking land in Southern Syria and Lebanon for no reason at all. This is what they have always done: forced their neighbors to terrorism. Steel sharpens steel and Hamas is razor sharp because they grew up getting cut

[Anonymous]

Israel is currently using small scale mini nuclears in Gaza. Doctors report a new phenomenom: people vanishing completely into the air/pulverized to dust.

I guess it's FAFO right? If someone said that about 1938, it would be horrible, right?

[Anonymous]

phenomenon*

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Or Hamas can unconditionally surrender.
Israel is the only country that gets asked to give up land every time they win a war.
This is war.
A war that hamas started.

FAFO.

*Win a war they didn’t start, no less. Every damn time. FAFO indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel is currently using small scale mini nuclears in Gaza. Doctors report a new phenomenom: people vanishing completely into the air/pulverized to dust.

I guess it's FAFO right? If someone said that about 1938, it would be horrible, right?

Citation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are supposed to hold Israel to a higher standard than we do Hamas? is that what you are saying, pp who loves Gaza?

DP, but I don't think it's about love or hate. It's about Israel saving itself too. Israel never had a real war against actual Palestinians since this conflict began. This is their first one.

Thanks to Israel, Hamas is armed to the teeth, well funded, trained, and actually has an answer to the IDF and an answer to the Iron Dome: their tunnels. They know Israel will not see them in an underground trench battle so how does Israel solve this quagmire? Israel is not being funded by their brother, they are being funded by a semi hostile US. Hamas is being funded by a fellow Arab state, incredibly at the behest of Israel. Israel digs its own graves and creates its own problems because they are stupid. They are no better than Palestinians at self preservation. It's only delusion that makes them think so and the strength of our dollar and our technology saving their skin

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Or Hamas can unconditionally surrender.
Israel is the only country that gets asked to give up land every time they win a war.
This is war.
A war that hamas started.

FAFO.

Hamas unconditionally surrendered in late October 2023 when they said Israel can have all the hostages back.
What exactly do you not get that Hamas knows whether they surrender or not will mean nothing to Israel? This idea that Israel will suddenly play nice if they get all the hostages back is only the delusion of Western Zionists. People there know what it is. Israel is currently killing and taking land in Southern Syria and Lebanon for no reason at all. This is what they have always done: forced their neighbors to terrorism. Steel sharpens steel and Hamas is razor sharp because they grew up getting cut

This is a lie and truly, in every sense, false news. Why are you repeating it?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/10/20/false-claim-that-hamas-surrendered-and-israel-seized-gaza-fact-check/71231304007/

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

Palestinian deaths during incursions into Israel hardly count as "self-defense".

Zionists will never bother to admit the truth to themselves. The oppressors don’t care about the oppressed. Occupiers don’t care for the occupied. It’s actually kind of a sickening kind of logic but here it is in full display.

Jewish people and Israelis care deeply about the needs of Palestinians. Removing Hamas from Gaza is the greatest gift that part of the world, and all of the peoples there, have been given.

Just because the brainwashed masses aren’t cheering IDF liberators in the street does not mean they are not liberating Gaza.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel is currently using small scale mini nuclears in Gaza. Doctors report a new phenomenom: people vanishing completely into the air/pulverized to dust.

I guess it's FAFO right? If someone said that about 1938, it would be horrible, right?

Citation?

Much of it was striked down as fake news on X (no surprise) but google Dr. Christopher Busby-he is an internationally recognized expert on the health effects of ionizing radiation. He was a member of two official UK government committees.

He claims weapons were used in Gaza, Lebanon, and even Fallujah Iraq causing many illnesses. I believe him.

Back in 2010, soil showed enriched uranium used in that Gazan war and that was nothing compared to now. Israel has always been evil and treated its neighbors the way they were treated. No wonder so many Holocaust survivor descendants hate how the country operates.