Why is the Foxhall Community Citizens Association scared of public school children?
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Anonymous
If you're really LOLing, you're laughing at yourself. Laughing that you don't even know that Foxhall is the *opposite* direction to Georgetown when coming off the Key Bridge. Laughing that you don't seem to understand that the Blue, Orange, and Silver lines travel west to Rosslyn as well as east. Laughing that you're willfully ignoring the now well-established fact that no one is planning to send students from Glover Park to Foxhall ES and that Stoddert is receiving a $20.5 million addition to accommodate existing students (but also, beside the point that it is, that you think there is no way to walk or bike between Glover Park and Foxhall). This post is reminiscent of many a NIMBY tactic to sow total confusion. It's very difficult in any case you think anyone actually believes what you wrote above. |
Anonymous
. . . in any case *to* think . . . |
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure that DCPS realized that Stoddert/Glover Park will fight to death to keep their kids in walking distance (which is a stated priority of DCPS). I don't think the stoddert boundary will change, especially after the expansion. I mean, the entire neighborhood will get automatic priority in the lottery (almost everyone is within a 1/2 mile) and worst case scenario, the local families will just get a short term rental in a basement unit to be IB. The feeder pattern will be unchanged. The foxhall school will be like Hyde, mostly OOB with a few local families. |
Anonymous
Have you ever been on a bus across Key Bridge at Rush hour in the morning from Rossylyn? Have you ever seen OUTBOUND Canal Road in the mornings? These things don't move, and the left turn on to MacArthur is backed up ALL.THE.TIME. |
Anonymous
There's no reason to believe it won't be like Key. Schools draw families. |
Anonymous
This expectation is built upon ignorance. Your beliefs appear to be formed from a lack of knowledge of the enrollment history and projections for these schools. There is adequate supply of students already to populate this school with in-boundary students as soon as it opens. |
Anonymous
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I'm the PP. I was intending to reply to this comment: "The foxhall school will be like Hyde, mostly OOB with a few local families."
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Anonymous
You could be describing any intersection for any arterial road in the city at rush hour. Is the point that DCPS should only build schools next to Metro stations or that WMATA should build Metro stations next to all DCPS elementary schools? The earlier poster showed that commuting times at rush hour from EOTR to Foxhall / MacArthur by car are less than those for other potential sites in Ward 3. The route runs via Rosslyn and across the Key Bridge. It’s perfectly feasible for WMATA to run a bus along the same route from Rosslyn to Foxhall / MacArthur. That bus is not going to take longer than cars following the same route and, if a dedicated bus lane is opened on Key Bridge as it should be, will be significantly quicker. No one is here to argue that Foxhall / MacArthur are centrally located. They will primarily serve neighborhoods that are currently very far from their assigned elementary and high schools (much farther than for almost all other neighborhoods in DC). But the claim that these schools are being built in some “isolated enclave” inaccessible to OOB students is contradicted by actual data. Foxhall NIMBYs are very happy to project their neighborhood as inaccessible if that perception will keep public school children out of their neighborhood. In service of the same goal, they also oppose infrastructure developments (like the redevelopment of the Palisades Trolley Trail or bus and bike lanes) that would make their neighborhood more accessible. What is perhaps more curious is that there are others (assuming they aren’t NIMBYs in disguise) that echo the NIMBYs’ talking points, perhaps because they don’t like the idea of children across the city having more choice as to whether they can go to school. The rest of us who can look at this objectively realize that adding these schools strengthens public education in DC and support them accordingly. |
Anonymous
Yeah, Glover Park families are going to fight like crazy to keep their kids at Stoddert. It's utterly insane to send any Stoddert kids to Foxhall, given that Stoddert is literally a 2 minute walk for so many GP families. If I had to guess, Foxhall will take the southeastern half of the Key boundary and the southern portion of Mann's boundary + the OOB kids. This will cause redrawing of lots of other boundaries ease crowding elsewhere. The western portion of Mann along Loughboro likely gets sent to Key ES. Southwestern portion of Janney gets sent to Mann ES to relieve overcrowding at Janney. A western portion of Hearst in McLean Gardens and the new City Ridge development would likely be re-zoned to Mann, if needed. |
Anonymous
Yup; this seems likely to happen. Basically a counter-clockwise rotation around stoddert (which will only see minor changes at most). Stoddert - if you exclude the embassy/VP house, is the most compact catchment area and is an entirely walking drop-off for IB families. Foxhall will take all the Key/Man students south of Battery Kimble/Wesley Heights trail. Also, I can see H-A being redrawn a bit, as there just aren't as many IB families to fight change. |
Anonymous
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There was a special ANC 3D meeting yesterday with the deputy mayor Kihn regarding the new schools.
I live in Foxhall and I am in favor of the projects. 90% of those who spoke were against. They were either above 70 or with houses overlooking Hardy Park. It was super embarrassing. There were so many disrespectful comments in the zoom chat. I felt ashamed of my neighbors. I didn’t speak up because who wants to have such vicious enemies in the community? Not sure if that’s why almost nobody spoke up in favor. Maybe everybody else is just letting these people air their grievances without caring anymore? |
Anonymous
It was absolutely appalling. Rarely have I seen grown adults act so poorly, making out that they are some kind of persecuted, under-represented, disenfranchised minority group when in fact they are among the most privileged homeowners in the city and when the Deputy Mayor was giving them a full hour of his time to answer every one of their disrespectful and ill-informed leading questions. Someone in the comments was complaining that the dog park would be overrun by public school kids - that they think a park for dogs should take precedence over public education shouldn't come as much of a surprise to anyone whose been listening to them over the past year or so. The only case they are making is for their entire damn neighborhood to be razed. We can only hope that the mayor's office get the message loud and clear that there is a real problem in Foxhall and that the neighborhood must be dragged, kicking and screaming, back into the city to which it actually belongs. |
Anonymous
| That there are (viable) candidates for Ward 3 council that are out there blatantly pandering to these cretins is quite scary. |
Anonymous
The point is, there will never be 500 OOB seats being used for this school BECAUSE of its location. As such, it is a new enclave school for the privilged in Palisades. That is NOT what our city needs right now. |
Anonymous
Sure, but the equity issue for this particular school at this particular location is appallingly bad. Just own it. |