IAC Lacrosse

[Anonymous]

Bullis is on the rise!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSSAS, STA and GP coaches all leave this year. Is it something about the schools or something about the crazy lacrosse people that drives this?

Rhetorical question, right?

And one we all know the answer to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSSAS, STA and GP coaches all leave this year. Is it something about the schools or something about the crazy lacrosse people that drives this?

Rhetorical question, right?

And one we all know the answer to.

Well, the SSSAS coach is leaving for a big (non-lacrosse) job at the St. Christopher's School in Richmond. And the STA coach, who started his own non-profit charity to benefit autism right of college, has seen his non-profit grow by leaps and bounds and will be going to business school this year. Don't know about Prep, but all I see overall is that the IAC coaches are real people who move or make career changes just like everybody else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Well to the extent that lacrosse took the spotlight away from Prep football, Paro wasn't happy. But he wouldn't do anything to hurt the school and there's a whole lot of people (Alums, etc.) that are interested in the lacrosse program being successful.

In the Fagan years, Prep lacrosse really was the red-headed step child and Giblin had to fight for everything he got. Things were better under Paro only because there was no way to go but up. A lot of kids chose Prep to play lacrosse there which made Admissions happy.. And there for a while, many of the football players at Prep came there to play lacrosse as their primary sport..

The hiring process and the coach that is selected will speak volumes about the direction of the lacrosse program. It's not impossible that GP lax will be a second tier priority.

The story that GP fired the coach makes zero sense. If Paro is still negative on lacrosse, than why fire the coach? It's logically inconsistent. You fire the coach because you are unhappy with the program and the results and you want to bring in somebody better.

People forget (on purpose) that Giblin resigned. He was not fired. He resigned because of a list of demands he had that he didn't feel were being met (Admissions for Lax "recruits" , Financial Aid, etc). Now this wasn't the first time he resigned and he may have been doing this to force the issues. But he did have issues.

Yeah, Giblin "resigned" right after an ugly incident at an area bar, no? I think he saw the writing on the wall and took a proactive approach before getting further embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

the guy is a total jerk.

he was a bully to his own players and several GP faculty members were happy to see him finally go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well to the extent that lacrosse took the spotlight away from Prep football, Paro wasn't happy. But he wouldn't do anything to hurt the school and there's a whole lot of people (Alums, etc.) that are interested in the lacrosse program being successful.

In the Fagan years, Prep lacrosse really was the red-headed step child and Giblin had to fight for everything he got. Things were better under Paro only because there was no way to go but up. A lot of kids chose Prep to play lacrosse there which made Admissions happy.. And there for a while, many of the football players at Prep came there to play lacrosse as their primary sport..

The hiring process and the coach that is selected will speak volumes about the direction of the lacrosse program. It's not impossible that GP lax will be a second tier priority.

The story that GP fired the coach makes zero sense. If Paro is still negative on lacrosse, than why fire the coach? It's logically inconsistent. You fire the coach because you are unhappy with the program and the results and you want to bring in somebody better.

People forget (on purpose) that Giblin resigned. He was not fired. He resigned because of a list of demands he had that he didn't feel were being met (Admissions for Lax "recruits" , Financial Aid, etc). Now this wasn't the first time he resigned and he may have been doing this to force the issues. But he did have issues.

Yeah, Giblin "resigned" right after an ugly incident at an area bar, no? I think he saw the writing on the wall and took a proactive approach before getting further embarrassed.

Wrong!

At least have the decency to get your facts straight before shooting of your mouth. (Not the first time you have heard that, I'll bet.)

Step 1 - Giblin resigned after the season. (He had resigned in previous years, only to be talked back into staying at GPrep.)

Step 2. - A meeting with the new President was scheduled, the purpose of which was to see if things couldn't be smoothed out so that Giblin could remain with the Prep lacrosse program.

Step 3. - There was an incident in a bar. A disgruntled SJC lax coach, who had just been fired felt that Giblin had had a role in it. He, unprovoked, cold-cocked Giblin. That was the extent of the "fight".

Step 4 - The Prep President got wind of the incident and cancelled the meeting with Giblin which effectively meant that this time they were accepting the resignation. The President was probably advised on this by those at Prep who felt the Lacrosse program was too big, too powerful.

Step 5 - The new GP coach --- a parent who stepped in to helped the school --- is reported as "fired" without a single fact to back this up. GP has fired like one coach in thirty years in all sports, so this rport isn't very credible.

Loud mouths with axes to grind and no idea of the facts are a dime a dozen on anonymous message boards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bullis is on the rise!

Hooray for lax (no pun intended) admissions standards and a culture that coddles athletes until their racist videos get shared w the world!

[Anonymous]

word has it that Giblin has re applied for the Prep lacrosse opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:word has it that Giblin has re applied for the Prep lacrosse opening.

And they ought to consider it.

They will see no other resume that comes close to his qualifications.

The Giblin critics aren't GP friends anyway. The message to them out to be if you don't like it, you can lump it.

[Anonymous]

Several of the Giblin critics opted for Gonzaga in the past 5 years pal.

I know several lacrosse families who declined Prep for Gonzaga - while there were a few who will say it was due to the tuition differences, there were several families who indicated they had witnessed enough of Giblins antics at Mater Dei and wanted a change.

Ironically all of the best mater Dei lacrosse players this year opted for GP this year over Gonzaga.

I wonder why? Maybe families know the Giblin era is finally over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Several of the Giblin critics opted for Gonzaga in the past 5 years pal.

I know several lacrosse families who declined Prep for Gonzaga - while there were a few who will say it was due to the tuition differences, there were several families who indicated they had witnessed enough of Giblins antics at Mater Dei and wanted a change.

Ironically all of the best mater Dei lacrosse players this year opted for GP this year over Gonzaga.

I wonder why? Maybe families know the Giblin era is finally over.

No doubt a complete fabrication.

We had three sons play for Giblin at Prep, two of them at Mater Dei.

A good coach and a better human being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:word has it that Giblin has re applied for the Prep lacrosse opening.

What made it toxic between Giblin and the administration is still in place. While it would not shock me if Prep decide again to sell it's soul for a top lacrosse team, it would shock me if the delivery was I bring the Giblin volatility back to town. The bottom line is he pushes for absolutes over administrators. I'm sure he'd love to return and do things his way or highway again, but I'm guessing the administration just can't bear that again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:word has it that Giblin has re applied for the Prep lacrosse opening.

What made it toxic between Giblin and the administration is still in place. While it would not shock me if Prep decide again to sell it's soul for a top lacrosse team, it would shock me if the delivery was I bring the Giblin volatility back to town. The bottom line is he pushes for absolutes over administrators. I'm sure he'd love to return and do things his way or highway again, but I'm guessing the administration just can't bear that again.

More misrepresentations and lies.

Now some drama as in "sell it's soul" to bring back a coach who worked there for 26 years and coached hundreds of boys. He's got more friends and supporters than the nameless administrators.

"His way" was to produce a winning, Nationally-ranked program that resulted in scores of kids getting into schools they would not have without GP Lax.

Their way produces a 4th place IAC team and 10 goals losses with the largest student body in the IAC.

Now they are sitting there with a lot of egg on their faces. They are no doubt hiding in the wells of their desks hoping no one will remember what they said or what they said would happen.

I can imagine the Gonzaga people are hoping it doesn't happen. Their program could shrivel and die in two years if it did.

[Anonymous]

It isn't worth it for a school saddled with over $20mm in construction debt and a low endowment to run a sports team like a college with large tuition discounts for several kids per year. Prep grew to 550 students and is still financially struggling despite being twice the cost of a Jesuit education anywhere else. Giblin's way did win a lot of games and did help a few kids per year go to selective colleges for lacrosse. But it didn't serve the school well to lump so much toward that. If Bullis and Landon want to overload in this direction then the healthier thing for Prep to do is remind itself to be an academic school first. Have a looksie at Bullis and Landkn matriculation numbers, then strip out lacrosse. Non athlete hooked kids from those schools don't go to selective colleges. So why run a school to benefit less than 5% of the kids who attended? That's dumb.

And maybe Prep can be great at baseball, tennis, golf, soccer, swimming or wrestling. Last time I checked those sports had 2x to 4x as many colleges with scholarship programs. In the bigger picture lacrosse did nothing to lift Prep during the Giblin years. Academically and financially the school only went worse in the last decade. Building another dorm and bringing back the old coach isn't what the administration is focused on now, or should they be.

[Anonymous]

I'm from Baltimore and only peripherally associated with MIAA lacrosse, but I don't understand why the prep lacrosse atmosphere in DC seems so much more high pressure and, dare I say toxic, than in Baltimore. Is it just the typical difference between DC and Baltimore in terms of Type A, high achievement, etc.?

I thought Baltimore was kind of crazy but there seems to be far less drama. I feel like most of the MIAA coaches are also full-time teachers/administrators at the schools where they coach and I think that's very beneficial. Even if winning is vitally important, the coaches also seem to have the school's broader mission in mind, and care about the success of their players as students and people as well as athletes. I'm thinking of people like Matthews at Gilman, Brocato at St. Paul's, Hilgartner at McDonogh, etc.