So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will eaton students to Hardy?

Unfortunately next autumn. They have been so unkind to the school that nobody wants them here.

Don't worry Eaton folks, Hardy parents say the same thing about IB families too. And it doesn't keep them a... oh never mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) There's about 56 kids in 6th grade who are IB or from feeder schools. IB kids are about 34. There's no way to have an official statement in this sense or a certified declaration If you need confirmation call Ms Pride or wait for the school profiles to be released. Source: Principal Pride and PTO rumors.

2) True: Hardy cluster is the wealthiest in DC and , yes, median income is almost twice as much that of Deal's cluster. So it is wrong to say that the zones have comparable demographics.

3) True: the Principal received as the main input from the IB community to restrict the OB inflow for 6th grade. This request was dismissed for ethical and educational reasons, as well as for impact on the school budget.

4) True: the Principal received as one of the main input from the IB community to have honor classes not only in Math (as in the past year), but also in English and Science. The outcome is that from this year honor classes have been established for Math, English. Science from 7th grade.

So, after 38 pages of thread we have a tentative answer!

34/125 = 27%

(if I have the grade 6 class total correct)

This is more than twice the IB % for the overall school for last year, which was 13%.

My takeaway is that this is a great achievement and a sign of progress!

I'd like to know what percent Principal Pride and what percent PTO rumors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) There's about 56 kids in 6th grade who are IB or from feeder schools. IB kids are about 34. There's no way to have an official statement in this sense or a certified declaration If you need confirmation call Ms Pride or wait for the school profiles to be released. Source: Principal Pride and PTO rumors.

2) True: Hardy cluster is the wealthiest in DC and , yes, median income is almost twice as much that of Deal's cluster. So it is wrong to say that the zones have comparable demographics.

3) True: the Principal received as the main input from the IB community to restrict the OB inflow for 6th grade. This request was dismissed for ethical and educational reasons, as well as for impact on the school budget.

4) True: the Principal received as one of the main input from the IB community to have honor classes not only in Math (as in the past year), but also in English and Science. The outcome is that from this year honor classes have been established for Math, English. Science from 7th grade.

So, after 38 pages of thread we have a tentative answer!

34/125 = 27%

(if I have the grade 6 class total correct)

This is more than twice the IB % for the overall school for last year, which was 13%.

My takeaway is that this is a great achievement and a sign of progress!

I'd like to know what percent Principal Pride and what percent PTO rumors.

Relax. I'm sure Dr. Pride will announce things in due course.

[Anonymous]

I've never heard her referred to as "Doctor" Pride.

[Anonymous]

Eaton families making the most noise about having to attend Hardy instead of Deal are either those who are OOB but attend Eaton for the feeder rights and those who are IB for Eaton but wait until Deal to start attending their IB school (leading to the high OOB numbers at Eaton) The irony is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eaton families making the most noise about having to attend Hardy instead of Deal are either those who are OOB but attend Eaton for the feeder rights and those who are IB for Eaton but wait until Deal to start attending their IB school (leading to the high OOB numbers at Eaton) The irony is ridiculous.

More like those who live IB for Eaton but will begin to bail to charters or privates instead of staying in DCPS for Hardy (the Mann and Key pattern). This is too bad. It will result in Eaton becoming less of a neighborhood school as more IB families leave Eaton earlier, as spots open up in sought-after charters and independent schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eaton families making the most noise about having to attend Hardy instead of Deal are either those who are OOB but attend Eaton for the feeder rights and those who are IB for Eaton but wait until Deal to start attending their IB school (leading to the high OOB numbers at Eaton) The irony is ridiculous.

More like those who live IB for Eaton but will begin to bail to charters or privates instead of staying in DCPS for Hardy (the Mann and Key pattern). This is too bad. It will result in Eaton becoming less of a neighborhood school as more IB families leave Eaton earlier, as spots open up in sought-after charters and independent schools.

When has Eaton been a neighborhood school? It's about 500 kids, 2/3 of which are out of boundary! Nothing will change, except maybe it will be populated by fewer OOB people because no one will be gunning for feeder rights for OOB Placement at Deal!

[Anonymous]

You want to make Eaton a neighborhood school (which again it is NOT now) and allow them to stay in the Deal district without impacting the crowdedness at Deal? Take away OOB feeder rights for those attending Eaton, and only permit IB Eaton folks who attend their neiughborhood elementary to have the choice between Deal and Eaton-your IB numbers at Eaton and/or Hardy are then forced to go up!

[Anonymous]

The IB percentage at Eaton has steadily increased after being in the trough for a long time. The Cleveland Park community really embraces Eaton as it's neighborhood school. Parents like the mixture of neighborhood kids and kids from other parts of the city. It would be a shame if Eaton loses this neighborhood identity if parents pull their kids out early or avoid enrolling altogether.

[Anonymous]

I know there are a few sane Eaton posters on here, but pretty much every time Eaton comes up, an Eaton parent finds a new way to make me dislike them. The continual ability to post something hyperbolic is remarkable. (I imagine many on here feel the same way about Hardy IB posters, of which I'm one.)

I have no dog in this fight. (My kids will go to a national origin school after Mann.) But the writing is clearly on the wall for anyone caring enough to look: Hardy is improving and is about to improve a lot more very rapidly. Several weeks ago I offered a wager to a Hardy basher about the quality of the school within five years. I can't help but notice no one even thought about taking me up on the wager.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IB percentage at Eaton has steadily increased after being in the trough for a long time. The Cleveland Park community really embraces Eaton as it's neighborhood school. Parents like the mixture of neighborhood kids and kids from other parts of the city. It would be a shame if Eaton loses this neighborhood identity if parents pull their kids out early or avoid enrolling altogether.

If the IB percentage has improved at Eaton, it is because of the recession, NOT IB families embracing it as a neighborhood school-it is primarily OOB-Cleveland Park families not attending Eaton-before complaining about feeder changes from Deal to Hardy, support your neighborhood elementary and GO THERE!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know there are a few sane Eaton posters on here, but pretty much every time Eaton comes up, an Eaton parent finds a new way to make me dislike them. The continual ability to post something hyperbolic is remarkable. (I imagine many on here feel the same way about Hardy IB posters, of which I'm one.)

I have no dog in this fight. (My kids will go to a national origin school after Mann.) But the writing is clearly on the wall for anyone caring enough to look: Hardy is improving and is about to improve a lot more very rapidly. Several weeks ago I offered a wager to a Hardy basher about the quality of the school within five years. I can't help but notice no one even thought about taking me up on the wager.

You're rather full of yourself describing yourself ad a "Hardy IB poster" when you're just following the same Mann pattern of eschewing Hardy in favor of another middle school option! It's easy to preach when the sermon is only for others!

[Anonymous]

I do not understand nor will I ever understand the Eaton hate. I am an Eaton parent and my child is OOB. I wish people would know the facts. Eaton has 80% of its possibleIB students attending Eaton. Which makes up 30-40% IB at Eaton. we have kids who are IB for Janney and Hearst and Oyster who CHOOSE Eaton over their IB schools. And then large amounts of OOB from Ward 1,2,4 and 5. We also have kids from the air force base, and Wards 7 and 8. It is an incredible place with a very engaged and diverse population. Check out the school before you start bashing and check your facts if you care so much about IB and OOB. Lets face it Cleveland Park is a very wealthy area--the house across the street from Eaton was listed (and is under contract) for 5.3M...I imagine if you have kids and 5M for a house your kids are probably going to go private.

And for the Hardy folks--Eaton has been asked to serve on a committee with Principal Pride along with the other feeder schools. And since Eaton has had a choice these past 4 years to attend Deal or Hardy we have sent a few kids each year to Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB percentage at Eaton has steadily increased after being in the trough for a long time. The Cleveland Park community really embraces Eaton as it's neighborhood school. Parents like the mixture of neighborhood kids and kids from other parts of the city. It would be a shame if Eaton loses this neighborhood identity if parents pull their kids out early or avoid enrolling altogether.

If the IB percentage has improved at Eaton, it is because of the recession, NOT IB families embracing it as a neighborhood school-it is primarily OOB-Cleveland Park families not attending Eaton-before complaining about feeder changes from Deal to Hardy, support your neighborhood elementary and GO THERE!

The trend of more neighborhood kids going to Eaton started well before 2008 and has continued unabated. But taking away the middle school to which Eaton has fed for decades unfortunately will change that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will eaton students to Hardy?

Unfortunately next autumn. They have been so unkind to the school that nobody wants them here.

Well this is just not fair. You mean to tell me that the parents of 2nd graders (wouldn't that be the first group affected by the shift?) have all universally panned Hardy and been rude and dismissive? I find that very hard to believe. What about those of us in the neighborhood who haven't even yet had a chance to send our kids to Eaton and plan to do so as well as plan to go to Hardy? We spent our money on a house in the area specifically for the schools. Our child is not yet school-aged. I've never said an unkind thing about Hardy and now that it looks like we will be zoned for Hardy going forward, that is where my child will be going because I simply do not have the money for private school or the ability to schelp my kid all over the city for a charter school.